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Pochettino: Spurs are feeling the effects of international call-ups

marion52

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Excuses, they should have been on cloud 9 as, allegedly, it was their dream to play for England
 

chinaman

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All top teams are subjected to the same problem. Being called up for England is less disadvantageous than being called up for say Brazil as it should be less tiring.
 

StauntonSpur

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No excuses, he has to take the responsibility for the failures and what looks like his inability to motivate the team when it is needed ..
 

Sweetsman

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All top teams are subjected to the same problem. Being called up for England is less disadvantageous than being called up for say Brazil as it should be less tiring.
Not really, because Brazil play in Europe a lot of the time.
 

Sweetsman

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He is referring to young players who have been given their first international call-ups. I don't see what the difficulty is in understanding what he has said, because it is pretty simple; very, very simple, but not unless you have an axe to grind.
 

Main Man

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He is referring to young players who have been given their first international call-ups. I don't see what the difficulty is in understanding what he has said, because it is pretty simple; very, very simple, but not unless you have an axe to grind.

It is simple, I agree.

A very simple excuse.

If he experienced this himself as a player and predicted their drop in form then he should have rotated them.

But he didn't.
 

Sweetsman

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It is simple, I agree.

A very simple excuse.

If he experienced this himself as a player and predicted their drop in form then he should have rotated them.

But he didn't.
Maybe he should, but he decided to trust in them. It didn't work out, but that can happen. The others haven't exactly filled him with confidence that they would deliver, have they?Get over it, unless that is that everything you have tried has worked out exactly as you expected.
 

Main Man

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Maybe he should, but he decided to trust in them. It didn't work out, but that can happen. The others haven't exactly filled him with confidence that they would deliver, have they?Get over it, unless that is that everything you have tried has worked out exactly as you expected.

So he predicted a drop in form yet still played them out of trust.

If the manager did indeed predict this loss of form - which is a bloody good prediction btw - then he has to act upon it. Paulinho showed yesterday he can do a job centrally and we all know Dembele can too but he has chosen not to play either of those over Mason. I can only assume Stambouli has died aswell?

If 36,000 plus fans can see Mason needed dropping/ resting, then our manager should see it too.

I don't think Mason's development would have been hampered if handled in the right way. The kid needs a rest, so give him one.
 

Sweetsman

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So he predicted a drop in form yet still played them out of trust.

If the manager did indeed predict this loss of form - which is a bloody good prediction btw - then he has to act upon it. Paulinho showed yesterday he can do a job centrally and we all know Dembele can too but he has chosen not to play either of those over Mason. I can only assume Stambouli has died aswell?

If 36,000 plus fans can see Mason needed dropping/ resting, then our manager should see it too.

I don't think Mason's development would have been hampered if handled in the right way. The kid needs a rest, so give him one.
You just mentioned Paulinho and Dembele, two players who have not exactly fulfilled their potential. As for the 36,000 fans hyperbole, hindsight is a great thing. I have argued that Mason probably needs a rest, but I don't see what goes on in training.
 

Main Man

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You just mentioned Paulinho and Dembele, two players who have not exactly fulfilled their potential. As for the 36,000 fans hyperbole, hindsight is a great thing. I have argued that Mason probably needs a rest, but I don't see what goes on in training.

But he isn't looking back with hindsight, he identified it at the time using hindsight from his own experiences.

I am not sure what Paulinho and Dembele (and filling their potential) has to do with Ryan Mason needing a rest.

I also forgot to mention Capoue who could have came in for him aswell as Stambouli and the aforementioned pair.
 

Sweetsman

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But he isn't looking back with hindsight, he identified it at the time using hindsight from his own experiences.

I am not sure what Paulinho and Dembele (and filling their potential) has to do with Ryan Mason needing a rest.

I also forgot to mention Capoue who could have came in for him aswell as Stambouli and the aforementioned pair.
Not quite: he was explaining why playing the players had not worked based on his past experiences. They hadn't done anything to get dropped, but it didn't work well. You can carry on in this fashion, but you'll lose.
 

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But he isn't looking back with hindsight, he identified it at the time using hindsight from his own experiences.

I am not sure what Paulinho and Dembele (and filling their potential) has to do with Ryan Mason needing a rest.

I also forgot to mention Capoue who could have came in for him aswell as Stambouli and the aforementioned pair.
I feel the problem really is that Mauricio sees that to "rotate" his squad means inserting inferior players in the place of those who might need a rest; so he sticks with what he's got.
However I also feel that, If he does have a fault as a coach/manager, he tends to whine a bit when things go wrong.....maybe that's all he is doing in this case.
 
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Main Man

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I feel the problem really is that Mauricio sees that to "rotate" his squad means inserting inferior players in the place of those who might need a rest; so he sticks with what he's got.
However I also feel that, If he does have a fault as a coach/manager, he tends to whine a bit when things go wrong.....maybe that's all he is doing in this case.

That is definitely what he is doing.

These 'inferior' players have shown themselves to be quite capable though at some point, either for us or their previous clubs, if not both.

These 'inferior' players have also had a decent spell in the team at some point throughout this season.

I don't know, sometimes I think I am too critical of him because he doesn't seemingly know the strengths and weaknesses of the players which I think are fairly apparent. That is something I need to get over though.
 

Sweetsman

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I feel the problem really is that Mauricio sees that to "rotate" his squad means inserting inferior players in the place of those who might need a rest; so he sticks with what he's got.
However I also feel that, If he does have a fault as a coach/manager, he tends to whine a bit when things go wrong.....maybe that's all he is doing in this case.
He's just deflecting as does almost every manager. When you get to LVG's stage, you don't have to do that any more and can just cane the reporter.
The only issue I have with MP is that he may be too wedded The System and be inflexible. Having said that, he has shown that he can adapt, eg away to Arsenal.
 

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Not trying to fault Pochettino, honestly not, but such excuses must stop. Sorry, he is the one choosing to cast aside a whole team who would be a decent PL-side, limiting the number of fresh and rested players. If he was able to handle a wider range of personalities, Tottenham would be fresher now.
 
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