Player Watch Player Watch - Lucas Moura

[si_yidarmy]

Dele's form finally picked up in the second half of Ajax. Since his injury it has taken him time. Those deft passes for Moura were sensational and led to two important goals for us - the first and the last! He has to be playing in Madrid. I love Winks, but he should be a player coming on to help secure a lead surely?

 

[arunspurs]

Lucas Moura showed his inner animal in the semis.
The pace & determination for the first goal, alertness & perseverance for 2nd, cool and calm finishing for 3rd goal.
I have not seen another Spurs player who showed similar desperation to win in a long long time. Moura is someone you want to build the team with. He is a leader by example - key for him is he has to be consistent. He was once the 19yr old onderkid who was wanted by Fergie. His limit is sky high. Its now about if he can kick on from this level. I think he can

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

 

[Eric_s]

Dele's form finally picked up in the second half of Ajax. Since his injury it has taken him time. Those deft passes for Moura were sensational and led to two important goals for us - the first and the last! He has to be playing in Madrid. I love Winks, but he should be a player coming on to help secure a lead surely?

The first goal was not a pass from Dele to Lucas. Dele intended to cut back for himself but Lucas ran to the ball and took over.

 

[Jules_PF]

Bit weird but I see some potential here..

Excellent but just use the chorus

 

[Dharmabum]

By listening to this commentator one could believe that Spurs were a Brazilian team

 

[Dharmabum]

Here's his WAG.
Is there a football star who's got a girl without silicone

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5311091/larissa-saad-lucas-moura-married-tottenham-facts/

 

[Dharmabum]

Dele's form finally picked up in the second half of Ajax. Since his injury it has taken him time. Those deft passes for Moura were sensational and led to two important goals for us - the first and the last! He has to be playing in Madrid. I love Winks, but he should be a player coming on to help secure a lead surely?

Well, his pass for Moura was simply sublimely top class, a sign for a top notch player (but so was Llorente's flick on with a man backed into him).
Dele's knack of spotting open players and making that killer pass combined with his excellent runs into the box makes me believe he could replace Eriksen as the team's play maker.

 

[Dharmabum]

 

[tooey]

Well, his pass for Moura was simply sublimely top class, a sign for a top notch player (but so was Llorente's flick on with a man backed into him).
Dele's knack of spotting open players and making that killer pass combined with his excellent runs into the box makes me believe he could replace Eriksen as the team's play maker.

He's nothing like Eriksen. Whilst he has the ability to spot a pass and execute on occasion he's far too sloppy on the ball and doesn't have the intelligence of Eriksen to orchestrate our attack.

Dele was good in that second half of the semi but had been turgid in the weeks leading up to it.

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

He's nothing like Eriksen. Whilst he has the ability to spot a pass and execute on occasion he's far too sloppy on the ball and doesn't have the intelligence of Eriksen to orchestrate our attack.

Dele was good in that second half of the semi but had been turgid in the weeks leading up to it.

Eriksen was far from orchestrating play for years after he joined us at around the same age Dele is now. He'll grow into it -- give him time.

 

[Shadydan]

Dele just doesn't have the natursl ability to play as a playmaker, he doesn't have the vision or ability to play as one. We know how he plays and know what his strengths are.

 

[Dharmabum]

Dele just doesn't have the natursl ability to play as a playmaker, he doesn't have the vision or ability to play as one. We know how he plays and know what his strengths are.

Eriksen is one of the best (but not the best) play makers in Europe (even the world) so yes Dele's not at his level. But Eriksen's spent 6 season's honing his skills as Spurs' play maker while Dele has been shifted around and rarely been given the chance as a play maker.
I disagree that Dele's not got the vision to find open team mates as there are ample examples of how he can find killer passes but yes while he's not been given the chance to play as a play maker by Pochettino. A play maker have to be turned on planning/plotting the next all the time and that's something Dele's may not have (yet...).

 

[Dharmabum]

He's nothing like Eriksen. Whilst he has the ability to spot a pass and execute on occasion he's far too sloppy on the ball and doesn't have the intelligence of Eriksen to orchestrate our attack.

Dele was good in that second half of the semi but had been turgid in the weeks leading up to it.

I reckon he's closer to Eriksen than you wanna admit And he's just as good on the ball as Eriksen - when he is focused. Dele's also good an excellent eye for defense splitting passes. But, yes, he may lack the constinecy but then he's never really been given a chance of doing so as Eriksen, rightly so, made the play maker spot his own. Thing is I reckond Dele's better in MF than as a WF/striker as he lacks the pace to take defenders on whereas in MF he can use his skills better.
I would like to have a pacey, technical WF like Nicola Pepe, Neres, Leon Bailey up front as Spurs really lack pace and trickery.
By the way, Eriksen's also been a bit turgid this season.

 

[Shadydan]

Eriksen is one of the best (but not the best) play makers in Europe (even the world) so yes Dele's not at his level. But Eriksen's spent 6 season's honing his skills as Spurs' play maker while Dele has been shifted around and rarely been given the chance as a play maker.
I disagree that Dele's not got the vision to find open team mates as there are ample examples of how he can find killer passes but yes while he's not been given the chance to play as a play maker by Pochettino. A play maker have to be turned on planning/plotting the next all the time and that's something Dele's may not have (yet...).

Eriksen had been honing his skills as a playmaker at Ajax, not just Spurs so he had prior experience playing in that role. Dele has no prior experience, he has played as a CMF at MK Dons but he was more of a runner from deep (like the Frank Lampard role) Poch has moved him from his preferred position to a position to where he excels in behind the striker.

Dele just doesn't have the patience or the natural ability to play as a playmaker, he doesn't read the game like that. He wants too many touches in midfield and slows the game down, even if you try and coach those habits out of him you're taking away his position where he feels most comfortable and has produced the kind of output he's produced.

 

[punkisback]

I reckon he's closer to Eriksen than you wanna admit And he's just as good on the ball as Eriksen - when he is focused. Dele's also good an excellent eye for defense splitting passes. But, yes, he may lack the constinecy but then he's never really been given a chance of doing so as Eriksen, rightly so, made the play maker spot his own. Thing is I reckond Dele's better in MF than as a WF/striker as he lacks the pace to take defenders on whereas in MF he can use his skills better.
I would like to have a pacey, technical WF like Nicola Pepe, Neres, Leon Bailey up front as Spurs really lack pace and trickery.
By the way, Eriksen's also been a bit turgid this season.

I don't think he can set the tempo as well as someone like Eriksen can, it's not all about through balls.

 

[Dharmabum]

I don't think he can set the tempo as well as someone like Eriksen can, it's not all about through balls.

Actually, I am not going to argue with you about that However, it's hard to say as he's never been given the chance. But, should Eriksen be sold and Pochettino won't move Dele into that role, well, then I would for sure know he's not got "it".
But Liverpool as doing very well with what I consider a fairly average looking MF - and none of their MF are nowhere near Eriksen's play making skills.

 

[JarBirl]

I reckon he's closer to Eriksen than you wanna admit And he's just as good on the ball as Eriksen - when he is focused. Dele's also good an excellent eye for defense splitting passes. But, yes, he may lack the constinecy but then he's never really been given a chance of doing so as Eriksen, rightly so, made the play maker spot his own. Thing is I reckond Dele's better in MF than as a WF/striker as he lacks the pace to take defenders on whereas in MF he can use his skills better.
I would like to have a pacey, technical WF like Nicola Pepe, Neres, Leon Bailey up front as Spurs really lack pace and trickery.
By the way, Eriksen's also been a bit turgid this season.

Disagree. What people often overlook is that Eriksen is the most two-footed player in our squad which should put him at least a bit ahead of Dele in terms of his technical ability on the ball.

I saw some stats a while ago which showed Eriksen makes passes almost equally with either foot.

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

Disagree. What people often overlook is that Eriksen is the most two-footed player in our squad which should put him at least a bit ahead of Dele in terms of his technical ability on the ball.

I saw some stats a while ago which showed Eriksen makes passes almost equally with either foot.

I'd have given that to Son but Eriksen is pretty ambipedal too.

 

[mpickard2087]

Disagree. What people often overlook is that Eriksen is the most two-footed player in our squad which should put him at least a bit ahead of Dele in terms of his technical ability on the ball.

I saw some stats a while ago which showed Eriksen makes passes almost equally with either foot.

I'd have given that to Son but Eriksen is pretty ambipedal too.

Kind of is both of them. Son is very good compared to the vast majority of players at striking the ball with his weaker foot, in terms of the technique and power generated it's not far at all behind his stronger foot. But that tends to be at 'power' shots. Eriksen I'd say is better in general play and finesse wise. If it needs a perfectly weighted one touch pass round the corner for a runner, or to thread a ball through like we saw for the Alli chance v Ajax, for example then he wins hands down and the player who has high level finesse using both feet is probably the rarer player and so a little more valuable if you do have that in your ranks.