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Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

jurgen

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He’s a decent back up and a good player against the poorer teams and that’s what he was before we sold Walker.. hopefully Aurier can reach a better level consistently but it’s unclear yet.
 

yankspurs

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Which basically takes any credibility away from you sensibly debating the subject of Trippier, as you made things personal and cannot respect other posters opinions because of your preconceived perception of them due to their nationality or length of time supporting.

I’m then surprised an admin has quoted one your posts as an example of debating Trippier sensibly?

If the thread had just stayed regarding Trippier and his footballing ability fine, but the stuff I’ve referenced is not sensibly debating and smacks of snobby superiority.

When I debate whether a player is good or not good (I’m my opinion) I try not to make things personal as that’s just wrong, at least for me.
It’s called xenophobia and there’s loads of that going around the world these days
 

Archibald&Crooks

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But he's not debating the point sensibly.

He's making comments on how long people have been supporters or they don't know what they're talking about because they're American (yankspurs).
Seriously? Sir! Sir! He started it! :rolleyes:


I’m then surprised an admin has quoted one your posts as an example of debating Trippier sensibly?
I just quoted that as it seemed most apt comment to use not because I was taking sides or condoning anything, what am I supposed to do? Vet anyone I fucking quote?, anyone could have said it. Not the first time you've totally missed the point or failed to grasp is it? That's twice you've done it, hopefully there won't be a third time.

Oh and thanks for the 'revenge' rep, most mature :D
 
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DJS

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Seriously? Sir! Sir! He started it! :rolleyes:



I just quoted that as it seemed most apt comment to use not because I was taking sides, anyone could have said it. Not the first time you've totally missed the point or failed to grasp is it? That's twice you've done it, hopefully there won't be a third time.

Oh and thanks for the 'revenge' rep, most mature :D

But you quoted someone who was having a pop at posters for where they came from or time supported spurs, basically stating their opinions mattered less then their own.

Maybe you should think more carefully about who’s posts you quote as debating Trippier sensibly.

Oh and how surprising you have to make digs about past incidents that have nothing to do with this... *rolls eyes back*
 

Archibald&Crooks

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But you quoted someone who was having a pop at posters for where they came from or time supported spurs, basically stating their opinions mattered less then their own.

Maybe you should think more carefully about who’s posts you quote as debating Trippier sensibly.

Oh and how surprising you have to make digs about past incidents that have nothing to do with this... *rolls eyes back*
haha, and again.........It's been explained to you and STILL you're banging on about your interpretation. I don't need to think more carefully, I can't legislate for you missing the point.

Now it's a spam rating I get. lol
 

yankspurs

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haha, and again.........It's been explained to you and STILL you're banging on about your interpretation. I don't need to think more carefully, I can't legislate for you missing the point.

Now it's a spam rating I get. lol
A&C, id expect a quip about a rating from others but you’re better than crying about ratings. Come on, mate

Had to say that. Other than that, im staying out of this.
 

BringBack_leGin

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The truth (trying to get the thread back to somewhere more reasonable) lies somewhere in the middle. Trippier is an okay defender who has deficiencies which will get exposed in certain situations, including when a defence is constantly changing, the midfield in front of him is not working coherently and the attackers he faces possess something he lacks.

Trippier struggled with pace and power, while his general lack of physicality means he’s not too robust in the tackle. Davies, for instance, lack pace but he’s strong and aggressive so is more likely to come in with a good tackle. Walker lacks on field intelligence so will be exposed by a clever player, but less so by a Michail Antonio for instance.

What Trippier does bring is a very good cross and this is displayed in his consistent assists. He’s made a bit redundant when Lucas or Sissoko are in front of him due to their propensity to hug the line, I imagine he’d have found similar with Lennon, but he’s far better with Eriksen or Lamela as that provides him more space to cross as they suck defenders inside. Also, with Eriksen he has a strong relationship because on the ball they know each others games and pick each other out easily (Trippier gets Eriksen into the box better than anyone), while off the back Eriksen puts in more running than anyone so Trippier isn’t so exposed.

While Trippier isn’t the terrible player some are making out, he is making mistakes which are being punished too regularly at present. With that in mind, it’s not unfair to suggest that Trippier , who has played constantly now since the beginning of last season without real break, is removed for a while and Aurier, who played well early this season, be given a run of games to try to earn a starting spot.
 

wrd

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The truth (trying to get the thread back to somewhere more reasonable) lies somewhere in the middle. Trippier is an okay defender who has deficiencies which will get exposed in certain situations, including when a defence is constantly changing, the midfield in front of him is not working coherently and the attackers he faces possess something he lacks.

Trippier struggled with pace and power, while his general lack of physicality means he’s not too robust in the tackle. Davies, for instance, lack pace but he’s strong and aggressive so is more likely to come in with a good tackle. Walker lacks on field intelligence so will be exposed by a clever player, but less so by a Michail Antonio for instance.

What Trippier does bring is a very good cross and this is displayed in his consistent assists. He’s made a bit redundant when Lucas or Sissoko are in front of him due to their propensity to hug the line, I imagine he’d have found similar with Lennon, but he’s far better with Eriksen or Lamela as that provides him more space to cross as they suck defenders inside. Also, with Eriksen he has a strong relationship because on the ball they know each others games and pick each other out easily (Trippier gets Eriksen into the box better than anyone), while off the back Eriksen puts in more running than anyone so Trippier isn’t so exposed.

While Trippier isn’t the terrible player some are making out, he is making mistakes which are being punished too regularly at present. With that in mind, it’s not unfair to suggest that Trippier , who has played constantly now since the beginning of last season without real break, is removed for a while and Aurier, who played well early this season, be given a run of games to try to earn a starting spot.

The thing is, I near enough agree with everything you're saying although I think trippier overall has quite low defensive skills hence the back 3/4 debate but people have said your points page after page without calling him shit and arguing the merits yet people have managed to ignore those posters and then continued to complain that trippier is flatly being called shit which simply hasn't been the case.

For me he's like victor moses, huge upside when you play him wing back but don't trust him at fullback at the moment and hopefully he gets a rest and Aurier gets an opportunity.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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The truth (trying to get the thread back to somewhere more reasonable) lies somewhere in the middle. Trippier is an okay defender who has deficiencies which will get exposed in certain situations, including when a defence is constantly changing, the midfield in front of him is not working coherently and the attackers he faces possess something he lacks.

Trippier struggled with pace and power, while his general lack of physicality means he’s not too robust in the tackle. Davies, for instance, lack pace but he’s strong and aggressive so is more likely to come in with a good tackle. Walker lacks on field intelligence so will be exposed by a clever player, but less so by a Michail Antonio for instance.

What Trippier does bring is a very good cross and this is displayed in his consistent assists. He’s made a bit redundant when Lucas or Sissoko are in front of him due to their propensity to hug the line, I imagine he’d have found similar with Lennon, but he’s far better with Eriksen or Lamela as that provides him more space to cross as they suck defenders inside. Also, with Eriksen he has a strong relationship because on the ball they know each others games and pick each other out easily (Trippier gets Eriksen into the box better than anyone), while off the back Eriksen puts in more running than anyone so Trippier isn’t so exposed.

While Trippier isn’t the terrible player some are making out, he is making mistakes which are being punished too regularly at present. With that in mind, it’s not unfair to suggest that Trippier , who has played constantly now since the beginning of last season without real break, is removed for a while and Aurier, who played well early this season, be given a run of games to try to earn a starting spot.
Pace and power as you articulate within your post are one the key and main attributes required from a top 6 level fullback. Not possessing either is a f**king big worry.
 

Paolo10

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I happen to think it's not that crazy to think that someone who has grown up immersed in a particular sport (especially if it's the main sport in their Country/culture/society) may have more of a grasp into the subtle nuances of it and a better general understanding tbh.

I like American Football and understand the majority of the game, have watched it and would have described myself as a fan at some point...I'd expect any American to have more basis to their opinion on American Football, Baseball or Ice Hockey than I would give my own.

And again, I did say some posters and that most appeared to be American...just my opinion again and I knew it wouldn't be popular.
 

wrd

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Pace and power as you articulate within your post are one the key and main attributes required from a top 6 level fullback. Not possessing either is a f**king big worry.

The thing is aswell if you dont have those skills then you need to be immense at positioning for example Azpelecuita for chelsea is not fast and powerful but his positioning is top notch, personally i find trippiers positioning quite poor.
 

kungfugrip

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I think at the very least Tripps could do with a rest. Of all the guys who played in the World Cup for England, he has possibly played more than most so far this season. Give Aurier a run of two or three games and lets see what sort of player we have on our hands. Better still, get KWP on that pitch again.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Pace and power as you articulate within your post are one the key and main attributes required from a top 6 level fullback. Not possessing either is a f**king big worry.
And yet we have finished top 3 3 seasons running with the last 18 months being played with Trippier and Davies almost constantly, with both finishing amongst the top assisters in the league last season (they were the two too assisting full backs, with Davies the top assidting full back).

Both are upgradeable, maybe with players we already losses, but to say Trippier isn’t top 6 quality is incorrect, he would get in every single side from 7th to 20th.
 

Matthew

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Lol. Aurier or KWP would have fared far better given the same situation?

Winks gave the ball away, which put us under pressure, yet because Trippier is pissed off and lets him know as they are breaking...Trippier is the villain here?

Even if he hadn't let him know and got turned immediately, I'm not sure he's catching that breaking player, who I suspect isn't the man he's due to be picking up anyway.

(Against Wolves, at home, who have given lots of teams problems btw)

Carry on.

are you dense? people arent saying winks didnt give the ball away, they are annoyed at his reaction! give winks the ear bashing once the ball has been recovered or your opponent isnt sprinting past you leaving it 2v1 on a inexperienced kid making his debut in one of the toughest leagues in the world! jesus fucking wept!
 
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