Player Watch: Juan Foyth

[Timberwolf]

Watching that vid just reassures me that he is not a rb, too slow and too many rash challenges in the area about three of those tackles could be penalties next year with var.

He is a massive prospect and is amazing with interceptions and skill but he is a CB.

He looks class at rb because he is a class player but if i was an opposing manager i would tell my winger to go on the outside every time and he will give penalties away.

If we are playing him rb toby has to be next to him. I would prefer kwp gets a chance there.

I would train him to be a left sided centre back and have rose, davies or even vertonghen at lb and he wouldn't be in a position where he needs to make those rash challenges.

Either way he needs to get at least 25 games next season.

I think you're right about CB being his best position, but I think against certain opposition he could be very useful at RB.

He'll struggle against pacey wingers (he had a tricky time against Venezuela recently) but plenty of teams don't have speed merchants.
And aside from the 5% of the time when he's doing something reckless and/or silly, he's a very good 1v1 defender - certainly more naturally gifted and better at reading the game than any of our 'proper' fullbacks.

I wouldn't want him to be our first choice RB for every game, but I think if we play him against the right opposition he could be great for us.

 

[Klinsmannic]

I'm now sold on him being out first choice RB. He obviously has some weaknesses there but his composure and ball retention are better than any RB we could realistically sign. Add to that his defensive ability and this could be a masterstroke.

Also kind of explains the lack of RB ITK.

 

[ziggy]

Just got married apparently congratulations to him and his new wife

 

[Johnny J]

I'm now sold on him being out first choice RB. He obviously has some weaknesses there but his composure and ball retention are better than any RB we could realistically sign. Add to that his defensive ability and this could be a masterstroke.

Also kind of explains the lack of RB ITK.

The problem is that our play is far, far better when we have rampaging full backs. We lost so much when Walker left and Rose's injury problems began.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I think you're right about CB being his best position, but I think against certain opposition he could be very useful at RB.

He'll struggle against pacey wingers (he had a tricky time against Venezuela recently) but plenty of teams don't have speed merchants.
And aside from the 5% of the time when he's doing something reckless and/or silly, he's a very good 1v1 defender - certainly more naturally gifted and better at reading the game than any of our 'proper' fullbacks.

I wouldn't want him to be our first choice RB for every game, but I think if we play him against the right opposition he could be great for us.

Agreed, although as you say we need to be careful we don't put him up one on one against certain wingers.

The reason i say lcb is because we are stronger defensively in the lb area and i feel he will have more cover.

 

[rabbikeane]

Foyth looked way uncomfortable the one time he played left cb in a friendly. Our defence improved vastly when he changed side with CCV. Doubt his future is on that side of the defence

 

[james Stock]

Agreed, although as you say we need to be careful we don't put him up one on one against certain wingers.

The reason i say lcb is because we are stronger defensively in the lb area and i feel he will have more cover.

What, you mean quick wingers like Sterling, the guy Foyth had in his back pocket away to City.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Foyth isn’t Walker fast but he’s pretty quick, just doesn’t look it because he’s rangy. He’s also a good dribbler and with his ability I imagine a good cross can be coached into him. He isn’t the most nimble but if his positioning is up to scratch that shouldn’t be problematic. What he needs to work on is his rashness as his red card wasn’t his first loss of control, it was the last in a series of many across the season.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Foyth is obviously the reason why we havn't been linked with any RB what so ever. Not to sure what to think about that, just yet.

But I think we will be fine with an more motivated Serge and Foyth for the next season at RB.

Fingers crossed for Trippier to be sold.

 

[Japhet]

Foyth is a future star in the making and he needs game time if we are to hang onto him. If that means using him at RB I'm all for it. Experience will be the key to him ironing out his mistakes, like all young players.

 

[Mattspurs1982]

Foyth is obviously the reason why we havn't been linked with any RB what so ever. Not to sure what to think about that, just yet.

But I think we will be fine with an more motivated Serge and Foyth for the next season at RB.

Fingers crossed for Trippier to be sold.

Think of all those penalties the both of them will gift the opposition

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Think of all those penalties the both of them will gift the opposition

And red cards

But it's better than outright giving away free points to your opponent.

 

[Japhet]

Think of all those penalties the both of them will gift the opposition

How many pens did Foyth give away in the Copa America? Genuine question.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

How many pens did Foyth give away in the Copa America? Genuine question.

Two in his PL-debut.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Two in his PL-debut.

His PL debut was in the Copa America?

Odd.

 

[Timberwolf]

How many pens did Foyth give away in the Copa America? Genuine question.

He didn't give away any pens but made one or two borderline challenges in the box against Venezuela, and I think he gave away the ball in the run up to one of Brazil's goals. I seems like he came out of the tournament with some credit, though.

 

[Japhet]

Two in his PL-debut.

First time playing at RB as far as I'm aware. Copa America will have given him a bit more experience. Sounds like you think we should bin him or at least sideline him until he miraculously becomes a more mature player without kicking a ball.

 

[Mattspurs1982]

First time playing at RB as far as I'm aware. Copa America will have given him a bit more experience. Sounds like you think we should bin him or at least sideline him until he miraculously becomes a more mature player without kicking a ball.

Point is he’s no where near the type of level full back to play in a starting XI for a team pushing for the title (and he’s not even a FB, he’s learned to play the game at CB). Maybe if we had no choice, then ok. If Aurier and Tripps are deemed not good enough, and we’re looking at players like Ndombele for MF, the we need a proven (or even world class RB) such as Cancelo

 

[Deleted member 29446]

First time playing at RB as far as I'm aware. Copa America will have given him a bit more experience. Sounds like you think we should bin him or at least sideline him until he miraculously becomes a more mature player without kicking a ball.

Agree more experience is what he need, same with Davinson. At Spurs where the competiton is so high though, it's hard to get regular game time unless you're the best in your position.

 

[Japhet]

Agree more experience is what he need, same with Davinson. At Spurs where the competiton is so high though, it's hard to get regular game time unless you're the best in your position.

Well, that's how we're going to have to progress unless we start paying 80m for Harry Maguire or players like him. We can't just go out and splurge money on the best of the best so we have to trust them and give these players their chance and live with the consequences. It hasn't worked out too bad so far.