Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[mattdefoe]

De gea had an Atrocious world cup and made mistakes in every group match.

I’m meaning Club level not the World Cup. But I can name a lot of international mistakes by Loris also of late

 

[Spursmatty87]

Hugo just isn’t a world class keeper anymore and hasn’t for two seasons. We probably can’t afford anyone better. So we just need to back him. Personally We need a cm, can and a goal keeper but that will cost £200m and we just aren’t going to spend that.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Hugo just isn’t a world class keeper anymore and hasn’t for two seasons. We probably can’t afford anyone better. So we just need to back him. Personally We need a cm, can and a goal keeper but that will cost £200m and we just aren’t going to spend that.

Who, you mean the goal keeper who just won the world cup?

 

[Spursmatty87]

Who, you mean the goal keeper who just won the world cup?

Yes mate. That one that didn’t have loads to do in the World Cup final and still gave away a goal. He’s capable of great moments but is to often capable of fuck ups. Like I say I doubt we could afford better but let’s not kid ourselves that we have one of the best anymore.

 

[MattPhilpott]

It’s so sad to see Hugo’s decline...Guy makes saves no other goalkeeper can make, but his decision making is costing us time and time again...

Difficulty is now after the Allison and Kepa deals, keepers valuations have gone through the roof!

I see Alphonse Arealoa is out of contract end of the season, potential deal in Jan with PSG? Or on a free in the summer?

 

[shoggy33]

I'd rather have a keeper who was consistently solid than a keeper who is world class one week, disastrous the next

 

[dondo]

So who would even be a realistic replacement? I can't really think of any obvious choices out there, even though it's totally unrealistic Poch would make the move to start cutting him out. We'll just have to start hoping for improved form.

There are a few I would go for in the summer.
Scmicheal would be my no 1 choice

 

[stevenurse]

We've had it for years with our keepers unfortunately. Lloris was the answer 3 or 4 years ago but the last 2 have been switching from sublime to the ridiculous too often. He's tight with Poch though so he's going nowhere anytime soon. He's semi stopped scaring the shit out of me with his feet, and if he can learn when to stay on his line then I'll be content as we have other areas to strengthen first.

People can reference De Gea mistakes etc and they are highlighted so much due to the rarity. There are loads from Lloris covering the last 2 years, whereas he's made one and it's used as an argument to defend Hugo.

Due to the spectacular nature of them, I think even his shot stopping is overhyped somewhat. There are several soft goals he's conceded that are overlooked.

We did have one of the best. Far from it now unfortunately

 

[dondo]

LOL a player plays in the way he has for years and the way he's instructed, and makes an understandable error literally 4 days after winning a big game for us pretty much by himself.

"Melt, melt, melt, get rid of him etc."

Honestly, this fucking place.

I guarantee too that the same people who are criticizing him for this are the same who also whinge when he doesn't make the decision to come out.

It’s not a knee jerk reaction though is it? I would say Lloris has been in a steady decline for about 2 years now. The mistakes he makes leading to goals is getting ridiculous.
If you look at all the stats for keepers in the league Lloris is nowhere near the top

 

[Tucker]

Some hilarious comments in here. Hugo has always had that kind of mistake in him, this isn’t anything new. Shit happens. He’s still a bloody good keeper, and I’d rather have him in goal than Vorm or Gazza. He’s the best keeper we will be able to afford by far. Look how much too keepers go for these days.

Have we all forgotten the three points he got us on Sunday?

 

[dondo]

Who, you mean the goal keeper who just won the world cup?

There have been loads of non world class players that have won the World Cup you know.
Remember the french striker in 98 who Newcastle brought (can’t remember his name), he couldn’t hit a cow arse with a banjo

 

[mil1lion]

It's a difficult one because a lot of times he does get it right, at times only just. It's the risky side of the sweeper keeper role he has. He can make 10 of those and get away with it so people credit him. Then he'll make an error and cost a goal (which he didn't last night) or in this case get sent off and people criticise him. He does need to judge these situations better and not come charging out as often. But he does also need to continue being decisive in situations when the defence are upfield. If there's a defender near the offensive player and it's outside the box he needs to stay put.

This mistake didn't cost us though. Sanchez was sloppy on the ball and then Eriksen also gives a sloppy pass away. So the error was caused by those 2 first and foremost. The fact is we should have been more than 1 goal in front by that time anyway. We didn't concede because we had 10 men either, we conceded from poor marking. Lets not forget Lloris got us a win against West Ham only the other day too. So yes he has cost us at times this season (this wasn't really one of them either) but he's also saved us. We've lost 1 CL game with Lloris in goal and drawn 1, won all league games.

 

[danielneeds]

Some hilarious comments in here. Hugo has always had that kind of mistake in him, this isn’t anything new. Shit happens. He’s still a bloody good keeper, and I’d rather have him in goal than Vorm or Gazza. He’s the best keeper we will be able to afford by far. Look how much too keepers go for these days.

Have we all forgotten the three points he got us on Sunday?

There's a huge difference between "having a mistake in him" and making costly mistakes every few games. Some people want to stick their head in the sand, and think back to his better days, fine. But no-one can tell me that he's a safe pair of hands these days.

 

[daryl hannah]

Karius was shipped out pronto when he fecked up in the CL final.

We're in a different project, though.

 

[stevenurse]

It's a difficult one because a lot of times he does get it right, at times only just. It's the risky side of the sweeper keeper role he has. He can make 10 of those and get away with it so people credit him. Then he'll make an error and cost a goal (which he didn't last night) or in this case get sent off and people criticise him. He does need to judge these situations better and not come charging out as often. But he does also need to continue being decisive in situations when the defence are upfield. If there's a defender near the offensive player and it's outside the box he needs to stay put.

This mistake didn't cost us though. Sanchez was sloppy on the ball and then Eriksen also gives a sloppy pass away. So the error was caused by those 2 first and foremost. The fact is we should have been more than 1 goal in front by that time anyway. We didn't concede because we had 10 men either, we conceded from poor marking. Lets not forget Lloris got us a win against West Ham only the other day too. So yes he has cost us at times this season (this wasn't really one of them either) but he's also saved us. We've lost 1 CL game with Lloris in goal and drawn 1, won all league games.

We've lost one partly down to him and then thrown away a win partly down to him. He's made catastrophic errors in both CL games. We got lucky that Lukaku is shit against United too and besides them we've played nobody of note in the league. Yes he had a great game on Saturday but he's frankly error prone now and we all know he won't change.

 

[stevenurse]

Karius was shipped out pronto when he fecked up in the CL final.

We're in a different project, though.

I know it's largely a financial situation but the reality is that if you want to be a top team, you have to be ruthless. City replaced Hart at the drop of a hat, because they knew that it was needed to improve. Ditto with Liverpool. I've not been convinced so far, but even Leno is a fair shout for succession planning for when Cech retires.

Coupled with Lloris saying he won't finish his career at spurs, I'd say next summer would be the time to cash in.

Ultra hard position to replace, but that's why we have scouts.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

There have been loads of non world class players that have won the World Cup you know.
Remember the french striker in 98 who Newcastle brought (can’t remember his name), he couldn’t hit a cow arse with a banjo

Stephan g'uivarch I think was his name. I always use him as a go to for the same discussion.

Neither Messi or Ronaldo have won a world Cup either. Which is the opposite side.

Regardless whether anyone wants Lloris to go or stay. He does not deserve his place in the team presently. Gazzaniga should not of been dropped either.

 

[glospur]

It’s not a knee jerk reaction though is it? I would say Lloris has been in a steady decline for about 2 years now. The mistakes he makes leading to goals is getting ridiculous.
If you look at all the stats for keepers in the league Lloris is nowhere near the top

Yes, it is bc the "disaster" are nowhere near as often as some people say they are for one, and two, it's coming after a mistake where he made a decision that he would have quite literally made 100 times before for us, and only on a handful of those has he got it wrong like he did against PSV. It's a decision that saves goals and games far more regularly than it costs them.

It's just the nature of the best when it comes to sweeper keeping. When he does it and saves it just gets forgotten, but the rare time it's a mistake we have all the reactionary melts come out.

There's a huge difference between "having a mistake in him" and making costly mistakes every few games. Some people want to stick their head in the sand, and think back to his better days, fine. But no-one can tell me that he's a safe pair of hands these days.

There is. The forrmer is accurate, the latter is pathetic reactionary hyperbole. Difference.

I can. A majority of the time he is a safe pair of hands these days.

 

[daryl hannah]

Stephan g'uivarch I think was his name. I always use him as a go to for the same discussion.

Neither Messi or Ronaldo have won a world Cup either. Which is the opposite side.

Regardless whether anyone wants Lloris to go or stay. He does not deserve his place in the team presently. Gazzaniga should not of been dropped either.

Also, didn't Llorente win a world cup?

Not exactly world class.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

Also, didn't Llorente win a world cup?

Not exactly world class.

He did and only played about 20 minutes the whole tournament. They won playing without a striker. Says a lot.