Player Watch Player Watch: Harry Winks

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I think nobody is arguing that there is never a need for backward passes and that they are always wasted. The issue is when a backward pass is chosen as a default even when/if other options are readily available.

Of course sitting in the stands/watching on TV, you will have a different view than the actual players. Sometimes that view will be incorrect, and what looks like a good passing option is in fact not really an option to the player. Other times, you will have better judgment than the player because you are not the one under pressure, in need of a split-second decision.

So those are mitigating factors. However, unnecessary backward passes, I think, is a possible area for improvement, not only for Winks but for the entire team.
 

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My only real concern with Winks if he’s playing this role are his defensive capabilities. There’s no question since peak Eric Dier we are giving up more chances and more goals. Ultimately I believe in this role Skipp will be better than both Dier and Winks as he actually is almost a hybrid of both.
 

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My only real concern with Winks if he’s playing this role are his defensive capabilities. There’s no question since peak Eric Dier we are giving up more chances and more goals. Ultimately I believe in this role Skipp will be better than both Dier and Winks as he actually is almost a hybrid of both.
I agree that Winks still has a long way to defensively especially considering the massive performances we've had in that regard the last few seasons with Wanyama, Dembele, and Dier. But I'll be interested to see how Winks looks defensively this season alongside NDombele and Lo Celso.

Last season was an aberration because our midfield was so poor and it affected our ability to press and defend at every level. Willing to defer judgment on Winks regarding last season and see if he looks a lot more comfortable defensively this season when surrounded by better players.
 

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Winks is similar to Jorginho from Chelsea and that’s perfectly fine. He is a bit clueless in the last third and that’s why we need Eriksen or hopefully Lo Celso to make us tick offensively. As long as Winks + Ndombele/Sissoko can hold the midfield it’s all good. Just don’t play all three together against teams like Villa at home.
 

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Winks is similar to Jorginho from Chelsea and that’s perfectly fine. He is a bit clueless in the last third and that’s why we need Eriksen or hopefully Lo Celso to make us tick offensively. As long as Winks + Ndombele/Sissoko can hold the midfield it’s all good. Just don’t play all three together against teams like Villa at home.
Eh... Jorginho is better offensively.

 

synththfc

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Eh... Jorginho is better offensively.

Maybe in terms of passing, which I admit Winks needs to work on (especially over longer distances), but Winks has much better close control/ball retention than Jorginho.

Also, while Winks may be a bit suspect defensively, I've never seen him get bullied the way I've seen Jorginho get bullied in the prem.
 

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The thing is we have recognise he is now playing with a new partner. I don't expect him and Ndombele to hit it off within the first week of the league. They need to understand how the other player moves and what their game is all about it. In a few months i'm excited to see what Winks and Ndombele could be as a CM pairing.

Winks has some real positive features, he likes the ball, he moves it on quickly, he's not slow, he's energetic etc.

The things he real needs to develop further this year are his defensive awareness. If he is the one playing the deep role he needs to know he can't give the ball away cheaply and sometimes he does, because it will nearly always result in a break away for the other team.

He's never going to be a brute of strength like Sissoko, so he must be cuter and look at Busquets and learn how to position himself better defensively. But this comes with time.

The main thing i think he can improve on and the easiest one for him to do so. Is his passing forward and taking a chance. Every game there will be 2 or 3 moments where he can slip it through two players to Ndombele or Eriksen in the middle and he chooses to go backwards. If he would have played these quite simple passes we would be on the counter. I think because of point 1, he knows if he loses the ball we are a bit in shit street. But he needs to back himself and make these passes as he easily has the ability.

I think with Dier/Sissoko to rotate and bring on after 60 plus minutes will work wonders against tired teams. Getting past one of these two after an intense match will be so much more difficult and should help protect us better later on in games. It's a great position to be in.
 
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