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Steffen

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You're saying you'd perhaps consider playing another player instead of him, no? The definition of dropping, no?

Seriously mate, are you ok?

Think you need to look up that definition again, mate. For someone to be dropped, he would need to have played the last game. Kane will have been injured for weeks when he comes back, ergo not starting him is not the same as dropping him!

We should stop giving him 90 minutes as soon as possible. It’s not good for the team, and it’s obviously not good for his ankles. Why not ease him into the team, like we do with every other player?
 

Steffen

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Its not rocket science. Kane is a world class player. The entire approach of the opposition changes when he doesnt play.
Son is fast.
Without Kane they attack more and leave more space for Son.
Lets face it when we have Kane Son Alli and Eriksen on the pitch most teams hardly come out of their own half.
Doesnt leave much room for Son to do his thing.
To suggest we're a better team without Kane is fuckin idiotic imo.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting we are. Are we a better team without a Kane out of form, though? I think so.
 

1882andallthat

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He just needs to have the operation and get fit for next season.
This may well be the case but we all know that the dynamics and what will be foremost in Harry's mind changed after the massive result we had against Man City, he will do everything in his power to try to get back in time should we make it to the CL final and he will do everything in his power to be available even if that means putting off an operation. If you asked him what were the most important games he could ever dream of playing in as a footballer, without a shadow of a doubt we all know what he would say - he would say playing for England in a World Cup Final or a European Championship Final and playing for Spurs in a Champions League Final. He will also genuinely believe that should England or Spurs ever get into this position it might only happen once a a lifetime or in several decades. If he even has a fighting chance of making it, he will do whatever it takes to ensure he's there even if it means his longer term recovery is adversely affected and if he thinks having an operation will 100% stop him realising those dreams if Spurs or England are that close he will turn down the opportunity of having it, we've all heard him being interviewed many times and we all know that he's as proud as anyone could possibly be to play for Spurs and England so no way would he ever want to miss their biggest games.
 

rez9000

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This may well be the case but we all know that the dynamics and what will be foremost in Harry's mind changed after the massive result we had against Man City, he will do everything in his power to try to get back in time should we make it to the CL final and he will do everything in his power to be available even if that means putting off an operation. If you asked him what were the most important games he could ever dream of playing in as a footballer, without a shadow of a doubt we all know what he would say - he would say playing for England in a World Cup Final or a European Championship Final and playing for Spurs in a Champions League Final. He will also genuinely believe that should England or Spurs ever get into this position it might only happen once a a lifetime or in several decades. If he even has a fighting chance of making it, he will do whatever it takes to ensure he's there even if it means his longer term recovery is adversely affected and if he thinks having an operation will 100% stop him realising those dreams if Spurs or England are that close he will turn down the opportunity of having it, we've all heard him being interviewed many times and we all know that he's as proud as anyone could possibly be to play for Spurs and England so no way would he ever want to miss their biggest games.
It's true. And, you know what? I can understand why he'd feel that way and the sacrifice he'd be willing to make. He's a good lad.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Think you need to look up that definition again, mate. For someone to be dropped, he would need to have played the last game. Kane will have been injured for weeks when he comes back, ergo not starting him is not the same as dropping him!

We should stop giving him 90 minutes as soon as possible. It’s not good for the team, and it’s obviously not good for his ankles. Why not ease him into the team, like we do with every other player?


Thank you for being able to understand what being dropped actually means.

So @dimiSpur seriously, I guess I am OK, mate.
 

Clark28

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We play our best with a fully fit Kane, no question.

But this season he's had the WC hangover, then the injury, comes back, plays a bit then gets injured again.
 

barry

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A fit kane is one of the first players on the team sheet. This shadow kane we get when he rushes himself back from injury can, and has been a detriment to the team. I love his enthusiasm, and heart, but sometimes you gotta be honest with yourself for the good of the team.
 

Fidget

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What's confused me, is the fact that nobody has suggested (or talked about) 'dropping' Kane.

The boys won without him on Wednesday. If we win games in the next few weeks, they'll have been won without him. Should he not be fit for the semi, and we're lucky enough to progress, it'll be done without him.

Just like all the wins we achieved without him during his last spell out of the team.

When he was instantly brought straight back into the starting line-up, the results disappeared, along with our safe league position.

Our discussion has been about whether he should just be put straight back into the team if he happens to regain fitness just before the semi, or the final should we get there.

Do you think he should be?
i think poch will leave it up to Harry. to be honest i have no idea which decision i would make.
 

Fidget

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Don't underestimate Lucas Moura's importance in freeing up Son on Wednesday. Both Lucas and Son have quick feet but Lucas did his in a selfless manner by doing a lot of hard yards while Son could stay up and occupy attacking spaces. Plus Lucas was involved in the goal at WHL and the first two goals at the Etihad (and could have made a brilliant turn and through ball assist if Sonny could have got his touch right in the second half).

We haven't seen Son, Kane and Lucas start together enough but I feel next season that is the combination we need to use more.
i bloody hope that next season we’ll have spent some bloody money too!
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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i think poch will leave it up to Harry. to be honest i have no idea which decision i would make.


You see, this is what I personally believe is part of the problem.

As good & vital as Kane is, he shouldn't be the one making the decisions about whether he's fit or match ready.

We have an extremely well paid medical team, and an even better paid management & coaching team. Let them make the decisions they're paid for, and let Kane do the job he's paid to do.

They make judgements & decisions, Kane plays the game.
 

aliyid

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Just noticed the CL final isn’t till 1st June... (three weeks after the end of the season o_O)

Could give extra time for Kane to get back but the rest of the squad may be a bit rusty after three weeks without a competitive game
 

panoma

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Just noticed the CL final isn’t till 1st June... (three weeks after the end of the season o_O)

Could give extra time for Kane to get back but the rest of the squad may be a bit rusty after three weeks without a competitive game

3 weeks without a competetive game is not ideal :/
 

Lilbaz

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Just noticed the CL final isn’t till 1st June... (three weeks after the end of the season o_O)

Could give extra time for Kane to get back but the rest of the squad may be a bit rusty after three weeks without a competitive game

Does beg the question of why the pl was started so soon after the world cup?
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Does beg the question of why the pl was started so soon after the world cup?
I might be wildly wrong here, in fact I probably am, but is it all something to do with somehow lessening the effect of the next World Cup? I’m sure I read something (ages ago) about all the top leagues adjusting season start/finish dates over time to help mitigate the effect of the extended WC season. I’ve not kept up with it all though but that’s the impression I have.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Just noticed the CL final isn’t till 1st June... (three weeks after the end of the season o_O)

Could give extra time for Kane to get back but the rest of the squad may be a bit rusty after three weeks without a competitive game
I view it only as a positive, If we can have absolutely every player injury free, and preserve the mental desire, who knows ... Ajax I'm more worried about.
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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I might be wildly wrong here, in fact I probably am, but is it all something to do with somehow lessening the effect of the next World Cup? I’m sure I read something (ages ago) about all the top leagues adjusting season start/finish dates over time to help mitigate the effect of the extended WC season. I’ve not kept up with it all though but that’s the impression I have.
I read that too but they only announced the dates for the WC in June or July so I don't think they've started that process yet, pretty sure it was just the 20/21-21/22 seasons that will be affected
 

Shadydan

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Pep clarified his comments a few times since then, he didn't mean to say we are a one man team.
 
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