Player Watch: Georges-Kévin N'Koudou

[Chris Flynn]

No Spurs fan should call any Spurs player a "turd".

In legal terms there may be a loophole in this case

 

[Chris Flynn]

I like him, hes still young, new country etc. Had knock backs in his career, comes out fighting. Im hoping its just hes not quite there yet but his attitude is right and there is a player in there. May just take a bit of time. Hope hes still here next season and we might see a bit more. Its a tricky one because, turns out, we are ahead of schedual as a club, so were in touching distance of the title. I doubt we thought we would be here so soon, so its tricky to blood players

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

erm, Poch pretty much doesn't put him on the bench unless/until forced to by injuries. He's mostly been below Sissoko, Janssen and Onomah in the pecking order for midfield/attack bench places.

All three of those players haven't done much off the bench for most of this season either have they? And they have been apart of the match day squad to fulfill different positions than GKN, bar Sissoko who we all agree hasn't done anything to suggest he deserves even a bench spot over GKN.

So to suggest that GKN isn't being picked because of how he does in the training sessions isn't the right argument IMO, which is what I was alluding and replying too.

He pressed well, showed enthusiasm and energy, his movement was good and he never seemed out of place, things both Sissoko and Janssen have failed to do previously. Janssen is just starting to kick on now and he has been given way more opportunities to do so than GKN.

It might even be down to his age and experience, but the point is that he has earned the right to be included and used more.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Yeah because what's more important...Poch putting out his perceived strongest 11 at an absolutely crucial point of the season, or 'saving face' ?
Laughable suggestion imo.

If that's a laughable suggestion, and I'm not saying it isn't, then give me a reason why Sissoko is getting the nod ahead of him then?

Why would Poch pick him ahead of GKN when he has shown absolutely jack to deserve even a bench berth in our squad?

That is the only plausible reason to select him to me, otherwise I just don't see anything worthwhile in him. We overspent and don't want to admit that Sissoko has been a total flop for us bar one or two average performances. This is not just about football, no matter how hard it is to accept that. Sissoko is definitely not being picked because of his performances on the pitch.

 

[Gb160]

Why would Poch pick him ahead of GKN when he has shown absolutely jack to deserve even a bench berth in our squad?

That is the only plausible reason to select him to me, otherwise I just don't see anything worthwhile in him.

Good for you, shame you're just a fan on a message board with no experience in selecting teams for football being played at this level.
You also have absolutely no idea what goes on apart from during matches, none whatsoever...Poch has a fuck tonne more information than you have, he's seeing these players in training for maybe 15-20 hours per week, you're not....and that's what he uses to select the squad/starting 11.
I'm not sure why u and so many others on here struggle with this very simple concept.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Good for you, shame you're just a fan on a message board with no experience in selecting teams for football being played at this level.
You also have absolutely no idea what goes on apart from during matches, none whatsoever...Poch has a fuck tonne more information than you have, he's seeing these players in training for maybe 15-20 hours per week, you're not....and that's what he uses to select the squad/starting 11.
I'm not sure why u and so many others on here struggle with this very simple concept.

I asked you to give me a good reason why Sissoko is being selected over GKN, and I gave you my opinion based on what I do see every match from him. This is a forum, everything anyone says will be based purely on their own opinion and understanding of the team.

I did not suggest that I know any better than Poch, God knows I have nowhere near the insight into our squad and football at a professional level as he does. I was curious to see why YOU think Sissoko is being picked ahead of him, so maybe I could see things from a different perspective too.

And I would never suggest that I know better, I am intelligent enough to know that I know probably 1% of what Poch knows about our team and selections.

But from what I do know, I gave you my reason. It may be wrong, and I have no problem with that. So please don't try and attack my understanding of our team and the game in general because you can't give me a proper reason as to why Sissoko is being selected ahead of him. I was just trying to have a friendly discussion with you.

 

[elDiablo]

I would suggest poch trusts sissoko to do a job defensively more that gkn, despite the latter having more raw talent.

Poch applies a pretty rigid structure and if you dont play to it then you are down the pecking order until you do. Look at dembele first season compared to second.

 

[diamondlight]

In legal terms there may be a loophole in this case

I've watched Spurs for thirty years. This squad - SQUAD - is putting up the best fight for the title I've ever seen. Every single player deserves respect.

And even if we were in the relegation zone, none of them would deserve personal abuse. You can't support a player if you're slagging him off. And you can't support a team if you don't support all of its players.

It's astonishing that anyone can fail to accept this.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I would suggest poch trusts sissoko to do a job defensively more that gkn, despite the latter having more raw talent.

Poch applies a pretty rigid structure and if you dont play to it then you are down the pecking order until you do. Look at dembele first season compared to second.

This is actually a really good suggestion.

Sissoko does offer a bit more strength on the ball and tackling ability than GKN, and his experience affords him a little more confidence on the ball in certain areas of the pitch.

I think there is more concern about what GKN and Sissoko offer going forward, forgetting the fact that we do press really well as a unit off the ball. In a pure attacking sense GKN offers a little bit more of what we need in the final third.

I am guilty of overlooking Sissoko's abilities when pressing, my apologies for that.

 

[lol]

he always play with a rotated squad, which is pretty fucking unfair, i wish he could play with a line up of kane, eriksen, alli. pretty fucking sure he'd kill it

 

[Gb160]

I asked you to give me a good reason why Sissoko is being selected over GKN, and I gave you my opinion based on what I do see every match from him. This is a forum, everything anyone says will be based purely on their own opinion and understanding of the team.

I did not suggest that I know any better than Poch, God knows I have nowhere near the insight into our squad and football at a professional level as he does. I was curious to see why YOU think Sissoko is being picked ahead of him, so maybe I could see things from a different perspective too.

And I would never suggest that I know better, I am intelligent enough to know that I know probably 1% of what Poch knows about our team and selections.

But from what I do know, I gave you my reason. It may be wrong, and I have no problem with that. So please don't try and attack my understanding of our team and the game in general because you can't give me a proper reason as to why Sissoko is being selected ahead of him. I was just trying to have a friendly discussion with you.

I haven't got a clue, which is why I'm not making wild and frankly silly suggestions, but I'd hazard a guess there's a hell of a lot more to it than 'saving face'....I think Poch is wiser than that.
Didn't mean to come across in that way but I think fans try to think too much sometimes...so much more goes on than 90 minutes on a Saturday afternoon, but that's pretty much all we as fans get to see.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I haven't got a clue, which is why I'm not making wild and frankly silly suggestions, but I'd hazard a guess there's a hell of a lot more to it than 'saving face'....I think Poch is wiser than that.
Didn't mean to come across in that way but I think fans try to think too much sometimes...so much more goes on than 90 minutes on a Saturday afternoon, but that's pretty much all we as fans get to see.

I don't blame you, half of the replies I've seen have been absurd to me too. And in hindsight my saving face comment was a bit of a slap in the face to Poch's knowledge too, I apologize for that. It only seemed plausible to me because we did pay a huge fee for him, but that could be down to the fact that we waited until the last minute to have a crack at signing him.

I think as elDiablo suggested, it may have more to do with what Sissoko offers of the ball and in a defensive nature which I totally overlooked. I was basing my comment on a purely attacking sense of the game, which was a bit stupid on my part seems as we are also one of the best defensive teams in the PL right now. He does offer something on the pitch in that sense, whereas GKN is more of a pure attacking threat with the ability to learn the defensive nature of our game off the ball.

 

[Gb160]

I don't blame you, half of the replies I've seen have been absurd to me too. And in hindsight my saving face comment was a bit of a slap in the face to Poch's knowledge too, I apologize for that. It only seemed plausible to me because we did pay a huge fee for him, but that could be down to the fact that we waited until the last minute to have a crack at signing him.

I think as elDiablo suggested, it may have more to do with what Sissoko offers of the ball and in a defensive nature which I totally overlooked. I was basing my comment on a purely attacking sense of the game, which was a bit stupid on my part seems as we are also one of the best defensive teams in the PL right now. He does offer something on the pitch in that sense, whereas GKN is more of a pure attacking threat with the ability to learn the defensive nature of our game off the ball.

Let's be honest, the only people who know what he cost us are Poch, Levy, and Mike Ashley...If you believe what you read in the papers then it's £30m, but I've read other reports saying it's nowhere near that much as that's with all the conditions being met, also read its 6m per season...I haven't got a clue, very few people do, it'll be very interesting to see what happens with him in the summer, I think we were all expecting more.

I only really sat up and noticed him as a player in the Euros for France (I've erased our match against Newcastle from my memory)...but he looked pretty damn good, powerful, willing to put in a shift defensively, seems like a good fit for a Poch team.
Who knows maybe we'll get rid, maybe he'll really kick on next season...remember he had no pre-season with us, probably sat on his arse waiting for deadline day.

 

[allpaths]

Good for you, shame you're just a fan on a message board with no experience in selecting teams for football being played at this level.
You also have absolutely no idea what goes on apart from during matches, none whatsoever...Poch has a fuck tonne more information than you have, he's seeing these players in training for maybe 15-20 hours per week, you're not....and that's what he uses to select the squad/starting 11.
I'm not sure why u and so many others on here struggle with this very simple concept.

You are absolutely right, but this is a football forum, it is a place to question decisions that make no sense from a fan's perspective.
To just obnoxiously dismiss any discussion about player selection, because poch knows best is extremely elitist when people just want to talk some footie.

 

[Gb160]

You are absolutely right, but this is a football forum, it is a place to question decisions that make no sense from a fan's perspective.
To just obnoxiously dismiss any discussion about player selection, because poch knows best is extremely elitist when people just want to talk some footie.

Steady on sugar tits, was more reacting to the suggestion Poch is picking him to 'save face'....it's ridiculous, and fully warranted an obnoxious dismissal.

 

[allpaths]

Steady on sugar tits, was more reacting to the suggestion Poch is picking him to 'save face'....it's ridiculous, and fully warranted an obnoxious dismissal.

only fully realized that after I posted, but felt my post is still important because there have been plenty of other times were people roll out a similar excuse, and it is generally a horrible argument to use on a football forum.

 

[mill]

Steady on sugar tits, was more reacting to the suggestion Poch is picking him to 'save face'....it's ridiculous, and fully warranted an obnoxious dismissal.

The like was purely for using the term sugar tits

 

[greaves]

The like was purely for using the term sugar tits

Is Alan a sugar tit?

 

[mill]

Is Alan a sugar tit?

No just a tit, hate him or love him, we arguably owe him some debt of gratitude

 

[isaac94]

Not sure why Onomah gets on the bench ahead of him, GKN offers so much more