Player Watch: Fernando Llorente

[carpediem991]

For UCL 19/20 I think Foyth can count to be as Player List B because of he born on 1998 and stayed with us more than 2 years already the otherwise that correct

If this is true that would leave an empty spot for all competitions.
Fair enough then.

 

[Kspur]

Interesting and unexpected move, particularly in the context of the information about a formation change - I had interpreted that as meaning a fluid 433, making a Llorente type redundant. With him also taking up and HG spot I do wonder whether this means we’ve now scaled back our plans with GLC less likely.

 

[Japhet]

It's all well and good being happy, but if we want to improve why would you want a now fairly immobile player if you're trying to bring in more attacking talent with more movement, bringing him on means the whole dynamic of the team has to change and we have seen in games not always to the benefit of those around him.

Out on a limb, I know, but I don't like this move.

Where do you think we'd get the money to sign another CF? We're spending in more crucial areas and Llorente has proved his worth, particularly in CL. He'll be on reduced wages and bonuses I'd imagine and it makes economic sense to me since he's effectively a free transfer. We'll rely on Son (and Moura probably) as our primary striking backups but neither of them offers what Llorente does. I thought he would be gone but I'm more than happy if he stays.

 

[nailsy]

Thing is, how are Spurs evolving by bringing him back in for niche moments in games? Backwards step imo.

You can't evolve every area in one transfer window. You also could argue that Moura has evolved into our back-up striker which wasn't really what he was bought for.
If Poch thinks the system that we're going to play next season will suit him then giving him a new one year contract makes sense.

 

[ShayLaB]

In the context of 'always do what the opposition least want you to do' sometimes a player like Nando is exactly what we want to have.

Big, strong, good attitude, experienced and completely different from other options.

No transfer fee involved and allowing us to develop Parrot/other or take time finding alternative.

No problems with him staying.

 

[paulcumpstone]

Sigh. Fuck me might as well just play Janssen.
He proved last year his legs were gone and couldnt handle the pace of the premier. Poch only used him when he was forced. Waste of wages and squad spot for me. Biggest sign yet that this club isn't true to the ambition its having its mouthpieces leak to the media.

 

[The Opinionated Lurker]

Sigh. Fuck me might as well just play Janssen.
He proved last year his legs were gone and couldnt handle the pace of the premier. Poch only used him when he was forced. Waste of wages and squad spot for me. Biggest sign yet that this club isn't true to the ambition its having its mouthpieces leak to the media.

Bang on the money other than those two sentences.

 

[King of Otters]

Disappointing decision for me. Backup to Kane was one of our biggest weaknesses last season, and resigning Llorente is not going to solve that issue.

 

[Japhet]

Disappointing decision for me. Backup to Kane was one of our biggest weaknesses last season, and resigning Llorente is not going to solve that issue.

Who would you like us to not sign so that we can buy a back up to Kane's backup (Son) and who'll be lucky to get on the pitch? We could bail out of LoCelso or Sessegnon but that would be far more damaging than this.

 

[paulcumpstone]

Bang on the money other than those two sentences.

I just think it proves that we are happy to again have very little squad depth for the sake of not spending. If hes on anywhere near the 100k a weeks wages he was rumoured to be on before even worst. Yet to be convinced ndombele wont be our only incoming this season. Obviously not counting Clarke as he went straight back out on loan. When you consider we might have lost both our first choice fullbacks I struggle to see how we are stronger than last season overall. If poch was planning for life without trippier and rose why didnt he play kwp and foyth more towards the back end of the season. ITK is very positive but has been in past windows I'm very skeptical the positivity isn't fed from the club.

 

[dtxspurs]

Disappointing decision for me. Backup to Kane was one of our biggest weaknesses last season, and resigning Llorente is not going to solve that issue.

He really was bad in games where he started on his own and was only effective late in games where we lumped balls up to him. I suppose its fine if we do bring in Lo Celso and don't sell any of our other AMs as that will give us one more attacker than last year for rotation. 8 players for the top 4 spots is solid.

 

[Ben1]

Considering we've been linked to barely any strikers and the money may run out if players don't leave, I don't get the fuss.

At this stage, Llorente is an extra man offering something different. If he doesn't sign, I highly doubt we bring in an alternative, which leaves Kane, Moura, Son anyway.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Considering we've been linked to barely any strikers and the money may run out if players don't leave, I don't get the fuss.

At this stage, Llorente is an extra man offering something different. If he doesn't sign, I highly doubt we bring in an alternative, which leaves Kane, Moura, Son anyway.

Why bring him back at all if there are supposed changes in formation and the way we'll play this season? He was largely ineffective for the games we did play him in (there are the odd exceptions I know) and when he was used as a sub he nullified the threat we had out therein favour of then not playing to his strengths ...

I can see people making a case for him and that's fine, still don't see the point in using wages on him when surely we could either promote from within or use the players in the first team and change the way we think/play around the box when/if Kane isn't available.

 

[Japhet]

Considering we've been linked to barely any strikers and the money may run out if players don't leave, I don't get the fuss.

At this stage, Llorente is an extra man offering something different. If he doesn't sign, I highly doubt we bring in an alternative, which leaves Kane, Moura, Son anyway.

Seems that Poch wants to take a good look at Parrott too. Llorente will cover that situation if Parrott doesn't fit the bill and we won't have done a chunk of cash on a player we (hopefully) might not need moving forward.

 

[Ben1]

Why bring him back at all if there are supposed changes in formation and the way we'll play this season? He was largely ineffective for the games we did play him in (there are the odd exceptions I know) and when he was used as a sub he nullified the threat we had out therein favour of then not playing to his strengths ...

I can see people making a case for him and that's fine, still don't see the point in using wages on him when surely we could either promote from within or use the players in the first team and change the way we think/play around the box when/if Kane isn't available.

I haven't seen anything to suggest a formation change just yet, I'll wait for the friendlies on that.

Simply put, I don't think he will ever start a match for us, I feel he is literally going to be used in the 'last chance saloon' moments.

I get what you mean about promoting from within but I think this is a POSITIVE step for the likes of Parrott. It may be that we don't want to bring in a big money Kane alternative, when we have youth players with potential. However they aren't necessarily ready now and a happy, settled Llorente is arguably the best stopgap until they are.

If we spend 40mil on Mariano Diaz (just an example) or similar, Parrott is screwed for the next few years and never has any route through.

 

[Spurrific]

We have Son, Lamela and Lucas who can also play up front. Spending big on a Kane back-up would be a waste of money.

 

[dagraham]

Disappointing decision for me. Backup to Kane was one of our biggest weaknesses last season, and resigning Llorente is not going to solve that issue.

Whilst I do agree, it’s better than letting him go and just relying on Son and Moura. Despite them being able to play as CF’s or false no.9’s ( or whatever you want to call them), they often struggle to hold the ball up for us or give us another option.

Like you though I still would have liked us to sign someone better.

Truth is we’ve left ourselves too much to do in this one window.

 

[paulcumpstone]

We have Son, Lamela and Lucas who can also play up front. Spending big on a Kane back-up would be a waste of money.

And I think that's a fair comment but I would then say dont have a backup striker then. Allow son and Lucas to fill in and sign a creative attacker with the wages your not wasting or foreign place your taking up. When llorente has started games up top he struggled was ok as an impact sub but not really something I think we need.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I haven't seen anything to suggest a formation change just yet, I'll wait for the friendlies on that.

Simply put, I don't think he will ever start a match for us, I feel he is literally going to be used in the 'last chance saloon' moments.

I get what you mean about promoting from within but I think this is a POSITIVE step for the likes of Parrott. It may be that we don't want to bring in a big money Kane alternative, when we have youth players with potential. However they aren't necessarily ready now and a happy, settled Llorente is arguably the best stopgap until they are.

If we spend 40mil on Mariano Diaz (just an example) or similar, Parrott is screwed for the next few years and never has any route through.

Yep - non priority this season - 1 year on £50-60k is a nothing expense really. Might get a couple of cup games but unlikely to feature much outside of another injury crisis. If Eriksen genuinely does stay then spending £30-40m on a backup forward is completely out of the question.

We can reassess in the summer when Parrott has another year of development (and hopefully a cup appearance or two himself) behind him. Llorente seems to be well respected in the dressing room and has a wealth of experience to share.

 

[King of Otters]

Who would you like us to not sign so that we can buy a back up to Kane's backup (Son) and who'll be lucky to get on the pitch? We could bail out of LoCelso or Sessegnon but that would be far more damaging than this.

Sess and GLC should free up the likes of Son and Moura to cover up front, but Llorente still should have been upgraded by now.

As others have said, we've left ourself far too much to do this window, and this is just one of many compromises we're going to have to make.