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Player Watch: Fernando Llorente

dondo

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Janssen should have done more with the chances he got.[/B]

Llorente is a good option to have imo. Pochettino told Janssen he'll have his chances this year - so everyone gets an opportunity to show their quality.


Definitely. Janssen is a very lucky guy to still have a shot at our great club imo.
Llorente is a good option to have( id rather have him that janssen)but I'm not convinced we will give him the type of service he needs
 

hughy

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Definitely. Janssen is a very lucky guy to still have a shot at our great club imo.
Llorente is a good option to have( id rather have him that janssen)but I'm not convinced we will give him the type of service he needs

Little bit unrealistic thinking we can find a carbon copy of Kane so we don't have to change our style, isn't it?!

I think we've done unbelievably well to sign Fernando, and I think the fact that he's a different type of striker really gives us an added advantage.
 

spursram

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There isn't any downside to this transfer.
  • He's still a top class goalscorer,
  • he suits our system but also adds an option that we didn't really have with his arial threat,
  • he has experience of winnings things which will help all those around him,
  • he's stepping up in terms of club and competition so (especially at the tail end of his career) will understand that Kane is first choice,
  • he has lots of skill and brings great link up play,
  • we now won't have our hearts in mouths every time Kane gets hurt.
This could even help Janssen as it buys him time to develop without the pressure of having to fill a Kane shaped hole in the team, though admittedly that would assume Janssen's willingness to be a pure reserve for a season right before the world cup.

I hope that, having brought in Llorente, we add some earlier crossing into our game as this guy absolutely thrives of that. He scores from early crosses, he assists with knock downs. It could be the key to unlocking the Burnleys of this world a bit more easily when they come just to spoil and sit deep.
You missed one important point.

>>He has succeeded in the PL.

My point being that all your bullets could apply to Soldado and others.
 

dondo

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Little bit unrealistic thinking we can find a carbon copy of Kane so we don't have to change our style, isn't it?!

I think we've done unbelievably well to sign Fernando, and I think the fact that he's a different type of striker really gives us an added advantage.

How did you get that from what I said? Where did I say anything about a carbon copy of kane :confused:.
Imo we are crying out for a striker with some pace and power who looks to run in behind, to compliment and or play without with Kane
 
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BringBack_leGin

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I don't think anybody is suggesting that we suddenly dispense with the patient built up play, but when that fails because the opposition defence is just too stubborn/ has too many men back it's nice to be able to get wide and have someone like this to aim for.
 

Adam456

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I was reluctant to say this as it would look like 20/20 hindsight but it's Sat night so what the heck.

I was going to suggest that he would make a good backup striker / game changer towards the end of last season but decided not to say anything as I thought I'd be shot down in flames because of his age / fee / wages / past it / turned us down before / not a Poch player / there's a reason he's at Swansea etc. etc.

Quite funny seeing how popular his signing is, regardless of doing one on Chelsea
 

Shadydan

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Not sure he suits our system? Being a threat in the air for a team that puts hardly any crosses in.
Good player not the right fit for us imo

Being an aerial threat is just another part of his game, he's extremely competent with the ball at his feet and has an excellent first first touch, hold up play is on point...I think a lot of Spurs fans are going to be pleasantly surprised by him.
 

dondo

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Being an aerial threat is just another part of his game, he's extremely competent with the ball at his feet and has an excellent first first touch, hold up play is on point...I think a lot of Spurs fans are going to be pleasantly surprised by him.


I hope your right , I would have preferred one one out 3 strikers to add something different, i.e. pace running in behind
 

eViL

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I hope your right , I would have preferred one one out 3 strikers to add something different, i.e. pace running in behind

Behind what? Every team parks the bus against us.. even the top sides.
 

Sweech

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Considering what Poch was able to get out of Rickie Lambert who is a very similar type of striker stylistically to Llorente, except Llorente is much much better I expect this to work out very well.

I was also pleased to hear about how eager Llorente was to come here and learn. Going back to Lambert I remember him saying Poch taught him how to be a striker (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...but-I-never-expected-a-move-to-Liverpool.html) so I'm hoping Poch can pass on similar wisdom to Llorente.
 

Hazardousman

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Being an aerial threat is just another part of his game, he's extremely competent with the ball at his feet and has an excellent first first touch, hold up play is on point...I think a lot of Spurs fans are going to be pleasantly surprised by him.

Honestly think him and Aurier were the best signings this window, I can see Llorente getting 15+ goals off the bench with Eriksen in this team.
 

dondo

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Behind what? Every team parks the bus against us.. even the top sides.


Most teams park the bus vs Man U city Liverpool Chelsea and their pacy players seem to do ok.
Pace scares defenders and no team can park the bus on the penalty spot for 90 mins, there is always a threat to play ball behind defensive
 

RichieS

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Most teams park the bus vs Man U city Liverpool Chelsea and their pacy players seem to do ok.
Pace scares defenders and no team can park the bus on the penalty spot for 90 mins, there is always a threat to play ball behind defensive
Liverpool (who are the only ones you mention that possess pacy players of a similar quality to what we could currently obtain) are notorious for their limited success against bus parkers.

City rely far more on the technical skill of De Bruyne, D. Silva, B. Silva, Agüero and Jesus to unlock deep defences, United similar with Mkhitaryan, Herrera and Pogba. Chelsea are fortunate that they are/were able to afford players that combine the top level technical and creative qualities with pace and end up with Hazard, Pedro and Willian who again are far more likely to use skill to find a way through anyway.

I would remind you that we scored the most goals in the league last season and second most the season before - "lack of pace" and parked buses included. The only part of our team where raw pace appears to be essential is the wing-backs and we have accounted for the loss of Walker with the signing of Aurier. Speed of thought is far more important for our forwards given the way we play.
 
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JW72

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His name is Fernado Llorente
He's one hundred and twenty
He came from a home in South Wales
SWANSEA

When he walks down the street all the people he meet say oi mate are you ok?

He will beat you in the air all night
He's Lillywhite
Fernando

He's nearly thirty three
He hates Chelsea
Fernando
 

BringBack_leGin

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Janssen and Kane are both aerial too you know

You're being deliberately facetious. Kane can head a cross whipped in when his movement gets him away from the defender and he has time to place it, how often does he actually rise above a centre back to make the most of a hanging cross? Kane v most centre backs in the air is at best a close contest, Llorente demolished centre backs in the air as if they didn't exist.

As for Janssen, the guy is half a foot shorter than Llorente and isn't trusted by the manager anyway.
 

dondo

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You're being deliberately facetious. Kane can head a cross whipped in when his movement gets him away from the defender and he has time to place it, how often does he actually rise above a centre back to make the most of a hanging cross? Kane v most centre backs in the air is at best a close contest, Llorente demolished centre backs in the air as if they didn't exist.

As for Janssen, the guy is half a foot shorter than Llorente and isn't trusted by the manager anyway.


I'm not being deliberately facetious at all.
Ok llorente is clearly better than the other 2 in the air but my point being Kane and janssen are good in the air too and both would probably like more crosses into the box too, it's just not the way we play and I can't see us playing a different way for llorente as we have been successful playing our way.
When we were linked to benteke a few days back jj poo pooed it by saying benteke needs lots of crosses and a more direct style of play, then we go out and get someone else who scores most of his goals from crosses.
Don't get me wrong I think llorente is a good player I'm just not sure he is a good fit for us, would love to be proved wrong though
 
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