Paul Kemsley - taken from COYS

[rez9000]

I just read on Harry Hotspur that the current rumour is that he jumped before he was pushed. The article also asserts that the buildings that have been bought around WHL were bought by his company rather than the club and so if WHL were to be redeveloped, Spurs would have to deal with him again. That doesn't sound very likely to me. Wouldn't the club want to own the properties if they wanted to demolish them to make way for the stadium?

 

[matjcole]

Hmm I think that Jol is clearly loyal in some respects, we know from his comments he likes the fans then team, and understands the wants of the board, however, is he as loyal now after this fiasco, because myself, I could'nt be loyal to a Co that was looking to get rid of me, in all liklieness I wouldn't work as hard to prove them wrong, if I thought the writing was on the wall, I'd be doing all I could to secure myself a good way out and something to walk into afterwards, could BMJ be doing this?

 

[teddyboy]

* * * BREAKING NEWS!!! * * *​

FOOTBALL CLUB VICE-CHAIRMAN IN PARTING SHOT CONTROVERSY​

'JEL IS DISLOYAL' SAYS PK​

Following his resignation from the board of a famous football club today, Paul Kumsley demonstrated the class and lack of vulgarity that all football fans know and love him for.​

Paul Kumsley took time out from his busy schedule of scheming and destabilisation to properly enlighten the world about what football morality should really be.​

'Jel is a disloyal ****' stated Paul Kumsley to a waiting audience of imaginary assassins, all with knives out for the unshaven, overweight (ED: skirting close to hypocrisy on that one) Machiavelli.​

A statement issued by a representative, Mr H Uphisownarse, further clarified Mr Kumsley's position:​

'Mr Kumsley feels that at a time when football is enjoying a golden age of one-club players and non-profit motivated chairmen, it is inappropriate for managers to allow themselves to be approached by other clubs.'​

Mr Kumsley's representative used a recent tapping up scandal to illustrate his point, ​

'Saveloy's manager, Juandos Ramo is believed by many to have been approached by representatives of a large English club with a 'dizzying offer'. Now who would do something like that?'​

Before anyone could respond, Mr Uphisownarse stated that the question was purely rhetorical. However, he was pressed on what measures managers should be taking to discourage this kind of behaviour,​

Mr Kumsley feels that managers are failing in there duty to block up their ears and go 'lalalalalalalalala' when a representative from another club comes calling. He feels that managers should be making use of the patented Kumsley Manager-Matronic Tap-Up Preventer. This useful device retails at £49.99 and interdicts any kind of approach, official or otherwise, from anyone, anywhere.'​

It was pointed out to the Kumsely's rep that this would also prevent a manager having any kind of contact with anyone, eg a wife, to which Mr Uphisownarse responded,​

'Well, it is Mr Kumsely's view that if you have a beautiful wife, then you have to find a replacement before she leaves you, because then she can go and be with the replacement and then you're always frightened of leaving.' At this point, Mr Uphisownarse threw away his notes and left the room.​

Splendid rez, :clap: have some rep

 

[walworthyid]

I think it is fairly clear that behind the scenes (and leaked to the media) there has been a battle of money and ego's and that pk has lost.

Shut the door on your way out you no good mug!

 

[tototoner]

more juicy stuff, this time from Archibald, I wish on the pitch we were as exciting.

He didnt havbe catergoric permission to go to Seville for Ramos nor to take Alexander with him!

It was best that he left Spurs- which he still holds shares as a silent partner!

He may mount a takeover but was better that he wasnt involved with the club on the"face of things".

His company which Levy is a big shareholder in own all the buildings around WHL.

There was a big meeting and thrashing out to decide which way to go- it involved Joe Lewis

They have agreed he wont be involved at all on a day to day basis with Spurs but will get involved re the expansion of the ground or new stadium and the training facility.

Its a joke but Levy cant control him and they are mates but also business associates helping each other out!

Hope this makes sense!

 

[PT]

Well if Kemsley's company actually does in fact own buildings around WHL that is a terrific reason to depart our historic hallowed turf and move elswhere, leaving Kemsley to endeavour to redefine the land as residential and get for it what he can in that part of town.

 

[yanno]

If this is true, it seems a bit of a mess.

As I understood it, Kemsley was a senior board member charged by Levy and ENIC with fulfilling our ground development strategy. As part of this, it's logical that the club should have been buying up property around WHL but surely the club should have owned this property, not Kemsley's company.

If development of WHL is now perceived as the best option (rather than moving to a new site), Spurs & ENIC are now in the position of having to buy these properties from Kemsley's company. And if there is "bad blood" betwen Levy and Kemsley, this means Kemsley could hold the club to ransom. A potential nightmare scenario.

What I don't understand is how Levy allowed Kemsley's company to own these properties - if that ITK rumour is true.

Also, I see the ITKs are now suggesting that Ramosgate was a Kemsley plot rather than directly sanctioned by Levy. But the leaks seem a bit half-hearted. Much as I dislike Kemsley, he is rather an easy target on this particular issue.

 

[The Apprentice]

But will he still be on The Apprentice?

 

[tototoner]

If this is true, it seems a bit of a mess.

As I understood it, Kemsley was a senior board member charged by Levy and ENIC with fulfilling our ground development strategy. As part of this, it's logical that the club should have been buying up property around WHL but surely the club should have owned this property, not Kemsley's company.

If development of WHL is now perceived as the best option (rather than moving to a new site), Spurs & ENIC are now in the position of having to buy these properties from Kemsley's company. And if there is "bad blood" betwen Levy and Kemsley, this means Kemsley could hold the club to ransom. A potential nightmare scenario.

What I don't understand is how Levy allowed Kemsley's company to own these properties - if that ITK rumour is true.

Also, I see the ITKs are now suggesting that Ramosgate was a Kemsley plot rather than directly sanctioned by Levy. But the leaks seem a bit half-hearted. Much as I dislike Kemsley, he is rather an easy target on this particular issue.

been reported elsewhere that PK was buying the property on behalf of Spurs, so all property around the ground purchased by his company belongs to Spurs

 

[yanno]

been reported elsewhere that PK was buying the property on behalf of Spurs, so all property around the ground purchased by his company belongs to Spurs

I hope this is correct, as this is how it should be.

My comments above were reacting to the ITK which stated: His company which Levy is a big shareholder in own all the buildings around WHL.

I assumed "His" above referred to Kemsley's company. So, just to clarify, if Spurs/ENIC own these properties - great. If ex-board member Kemsley's company owns these properties - not great.

 

[Stoof]

I think it would be a massive oversight to let the Property man buy the Property in his own name.

I'm not sure Levy's capable of that - as far as the spin goes that PK went on his own to Spain (I've always thought as much), well it's a nice one to believe isn't it, and leaves Levy in the clear.

But the question remains: who do you trust more? Is it Levy or Kemsley?

I know where I would place my bet.

 

[Stoof]

I hope this is correct, as this is how it should be.

My comments above were reacting to the ITK which stated: His company which Levy is a big shareholder in own all the buildings around WHL.

I assumed "His" above referred to Kemsley's company. So, just to clarify, if Spurs/ENIC own these properties - great. If ex-board member Kemsley's company owns these properties - not great.

As far as I was aware, I thought it was Lewis (in his own name, rather than ENIC) that was the investor in Rock. Not Levy? :?

 

[yanno]

As far as I was aware, I thought it was Lewis (in his own name, rather than ENIC) that was the investor in Rock. Not Levy? :?

Interesting (and suggests the ITK was getting its Levys and Lewises confused).

But the key question is still who owns the property that's been bought up around WHL - ENIC or Rock?

If it's Rock rather than ENIC, that does look pretty short-sighted. Although if Lewis has a large stake in Rock, it means the current club ownership does have significant leverage preventing us being held to ransom.

 

[tRiKS]

won't bring spurs into top 4 for sure

back to back 5th place finishes, injecting some european pride back into this old club and playing some exciting stuff along that way. GET THE DISLOYAL LAME **** OUT

*attaches rope to back of sarcasmobile. puts on roller boots. Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!*

 

[onemorespursfan]

Are there not rules (that may or may not be legally binding) that govern things such as using 'insider' knowledge to make large personal gains.

Am I wrong or would this be tantamount to extortion or abuse of position if PK has bought land in his own name based on things happening in the boardroom. This is surely punishable by more than a small amount of reputation tarnishing

 

[Kendall]

As far as I was aware, I thought it was Lewis (in his own name, rather than ENIC) that was the investor in Rock. Not Levy? :?

You're right, Lewis & Levy are the Major shareholders in ENIC, Lewis & Kemsley are the major shareholders in Rock, both are part of Lewis' Tavistock umbrella group

 

[DFF]

Kemsley meeting Ramos of his own accord? Never! We must continue to berate Levy for any reason possible.

 

[Stoof]

Are there not rules (that may or may not be legally binding) that govern things such as using 'insider' knowledge to make large personal gains.

If you're referring to fiduciary duties of directors: acting in the bona fide interests of the company, accounting for any 'secret' profit made - then yes, these do exist.

Am I wrong or would this be tantamount to extortion or abuse of position if PK has bought land in his own name based on things happening in the boardroom. This is surely punishable by more than a small amount of reputation tarnishing

True - which is why it makes it highly unlikely that anyone other than Spurs has bought the properties in question, I'm not sure why Levy would sale so close to the regulatory wind where there was no need to.

 

[MattyP]

Given that Spurs have three subsidiaries set up to look after freehold properties on behalf of the club, I'd be surprised if the land/properties had not been acquired by one of these companies.

If not, then why have these companies in the first place

 

[Stoof]

Given that Spurs have three subsidiaries set up to look after freehold properties on behalf of the club, I'd be surprised if the land/properties had not been acquired by one of these companies.

If not, then why have these companies in the first place

Bonza. Exactly.