Our transformation (with avb)

[Basil Brush]

Ok I may have dates wrong here.

However since avb has come on board, we have signed Lloris, Verts, Dembele, Paulinho, Capoue, Chadli, Siggy, Eriksen, Lamela and Soldado. (I could add Vlad but see my next point)

All these guys are proven either internationally and/or in champions league. All could be first team.

We have lost Modric, Bale, Vdv that I would consider big losses but all wanted out for various reasons. Vdv was also getting on

Then there is also Parker, Huddlestone and Caulker leaving. (Won't include Dempsey as he came and left in one season)

My main point is that how unbelievably this squad has turned over in the last two years, under avb.

I personally believe it is all for the better as our squad is so much more better in depth and flexibility. In terms of talent, it is up for question but I am not sure I have seen a better spurs squad.

All thoughts welcome especially the older spurs supporters on this site.

 

[CowInAComa]

wouldnt so much claim AvB to be the catalyst for this though.

The catalyst was being forced to sell a couple of players for 100 odd million

 

[Basil Brush]

wouldnt so much claim AvB to be the catalyst for this though.

The catalyst was being forced to sell a couple of players for 100 odd million

I probably didn't add but how did we get this quality without champions league?

Not just avb but amazing?

 

[CowInAComa]

I probably didn't add but how did we get this quality without champions league.

Not just avb but amazing?

Lets hope we arent asking how did we not get champions league with this quality next year.

 

[Chris Flynn]

I'm moving and i found my old match day programmes last night. This was my first match at WHL:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/tottenham-hotspur-derby-county/index/spielbericht_1113043.html

So, do i appreciate how much we have imporved? Hell yes. I doubt David Howells or Andy Sinton would even make the bench now!

 

[chinaman]

Lets hope we arent asking how did we not get champions league with this quality next year.

I think that is a question that need not be asked in the next 5 years if the squad is left intact or with improvement in the striker position.

 

[Kendall]

I probably didn't add but how did we get this quality without champions league?

Not just avb but amazing?

Money, the pull of the league and the dream sold by Baldini I guess. It helps that out of everyone, the only players playing CL this year were Eriksen and Chiriches, who really wanted English moves and I'm sure at least trebled their wages in the process.

Lets not forget we enticed the likes of Berbatov, Modric and various young players around europe over the years without AVB and without CL, with Comolli selling the dream. It's nothing new, we just had more money to throw at it this time.

 

[parklane1]

We have changed no doubt, and this summers input puts to bed the myth that top players will not sign for teams who have not qualified for the CL.

 

[BPR_U16]

Truly believe we have a squad that can perform for a number of years - many in early 20's with best years ahead of them.

So we just have to hope that the ambition outlined by the club that made them come here in the first place is realised - for if we are without CL and not pushing for/winning the title then I think some will leave as their status within the game grows and they see greener grass elsewhere.

Believe that in the past the likes of Berbatov and Modric were probably sold the same story - the difference this time is that we now have a manager who knows what he's doing, plus we have a group of players with enough depth to allow him to implement his ideas.

 

[Japhet]

I think the CL thing is wearing a bit thin now. If it was true Celtic would be jammed full of top players. It's more about wages, ambition and potential. We have a brand new training facility that competes with anybody else, a new stadium in the pipeline, a young ambitious manager and a secure revenue stream. They can't all play for MU, RM or Barca so we are now quite an attractive proposition. We are also punching above our weight in the most competitive League. Some players see that as more of a challenge than merely tagging onto the coat-tails of a team that is already dining at the top table.

 

[crokey]

I think the CL thing is wearing a bit thin now. If it was true Celtic would be jammed full of top players. It's more about wages, ambition and potential. We have a brand new training facility that competes with anybody else, a new stadium in the pipeline, a young ambitious manager and a secure revenue stream. They can't all play for MU, RM or Barca so we are now quite an attractive proposition. We are also punching above our weight in the most competitive League. Some players see that as more of a challenge than merely tagging onto the coat-tails of a team that is already dining at the top table.

Agreed. We have tried to develop our club in ways above and beyond just playing staff, and this in turn has allowed us to develop our squad without certain pulls that other clubs have, using our unique qualities such as the training centre, AVB/Baldini, a history of selling players to RM/MU, young and hungry players etc. All of these things are important.

 

[shelfmonkey]

I think the CL thing is wearing a bit thin now. If it was true Celtic would be jammed full of top players. It's more about wages, ambition and potential. We have a brand new training facility that competes with anybody else, a new stadium in the pipeline, a young ambitious manager and a secure revenue stream. They can't all play for MU, RM or Barca so we are now quite an attractive proposition. We are also punching above our weight in the most competitive League. Some players see that as more of a challenge than merely tagging onto the coat-tails of a team that is already dining at the top table.

IF the challenge' is one of the main reasons some of the players have joined, then I would suggest that we acquired a bunch with a really good attitude!!

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

We have changed no doubt, and this summers input puts to bed the myth that top players will not sign for teams who have not qualified for the CL.

I think we were also helped by the fact that La Liga teams are skint so couldn't compete effectively in the market.

 

[Basil Brush]

Good points.

Now, where do we stand in terms of other spurs sides from peoples perspectives?

The side with bale, modric and vdv may have been more talented but not as balanced imo.

This current side could definitely be most balanced and talented for a long time.

 

[tototoner]

Levy didn't trust Harry's choice of signings last few windows under him

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Levy didn't trust Harry's choice of signings last few windows under him

Or AVB's in his first and second window.

 

[mark87]

Or AVB's in his first and second window.

That was for different reasons though, levy wanted to see if avb will have a successful season first before splashing big bucks on AVBs first choice signings.

 

[Donki]

Or AVB's in his first and second window.

I think he trusted his choices but IMO if old Daniel has a problem, its actually buying, getting the deal over the line, that bit where a little bit of sphincter tickling is required. Id say old Danny doesn't like that as much as busting someones balls over a sale. Therefore we have Baldini, same as under Comolli we spent money. The way I see it is, AVB had a first good season, he was pissed at the idea of selling Bale, he had offers from other clubs, AVB came out and stated "get me Baldini and Im happy here" knowing fine well Baldini would get the players signed. Again just my opinion but I think it could be pretty accurate.

 

[Stavrogin]

Money, the pull of the league and the dream sold by Baldini I guess. It helps that out of everyone, the only players playing CL this year were Eriksen and Chiriches, who really wanted English moves and I'm sure at least trebled their wages in the process.

Lets not forget we enticed the likes of Berbatov, Modric and various young players around europe over the years without AVB and without CL, with Comolli selling the dream. It's nothing new, we just had more money to throw at it this time.

I think there's been a slight change in the scope of our recruiting though.

I remember people talking about Lloris a few years ago and how we could never hope to sign someone like that. It was the same with Soldado. I suppose Eriksen's star had waned a little but he was someone whom we may have considered out of our league a couple of years ago. Lamela may not have accomplished much but he had a big reputation, was at a big club and commanded a big fee.

I don't think Berbatov and Modric came into this category, they up and comers - at least a bit more so that our current top signings.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

That was for different reasons though, levy wanted to see if avb will have a successful season first before splashing big bucks on AVBs first choice signings.

Course it was...