New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Lighty64]

Positive review from David Hytner of The Guardian..
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/24/tottenham-new-stadium-mauricio-pochettino
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I never knew about Gascoigne and the air rifle btw.

if the winds blowing in the right direction next week, the cockerel should aim for revenge on Gazza. would be so funny if Gazza was hit from the sky above (hopefully it would bring him some luck)

 

[THFCSPURS19]

It sounds like fun and the videos are great.

I think the club's income from the food and drink is going to amount to a fixed rent from each of the concession-holders. There may be some element of the rent that is related to turnover, depending on how the lease agreements have been put together, but normally the leaseholder takes the receipts at their own risk and pays a fixed rent to the landlord.

Also, it is common for these leases to start with a rent-free period, to reflect the fitting-out costs incurred by the leaseholder.

I don't get what you mean. Who is leasing what?

 

[Yid-ol]

I don't get what you mean. Who is leasing what?

Food venders renting the space in the stadium, there are 2 ways they normally pay

1. Pay a fix amount per month
2. Pay a % of taking

That's what I think he is meaning.

 

[tototoner]

Check out @BBCSport’s Tweet:

 

[worcestersauce]

You know that word that Americans use at the drop of a hat but seems a bit over the top when we use it in England, youknow the word, Awesome, well sometimes, very rarely, it is the perfect word, our new stadium is awesome.
Got there today nice and early wandered all round outside just soaking it up, we'd come home, went in pretty much straight after they opened the doors at 1:00, first had to queue at the bottom of the stairs then had to queue at the top of the stairs for the security arches and finally had to queue to get into the stadium itself all good natured and to be honest I doubt it will be a problem in future as it was really down to everyone going in one great mass, ten minutes later fans were just walking up through and in, nice touch as I went into the stadium itself, a lovely young lady looked at me smiled and said welcome back.
As I went into the South Stand I noticed a bar downstairs but made my way up a floor and noshed down on a pie and pint for a fiver then went back for a superb sausage roll, looking out through the atrium glass and there's London spread out in front of you, Canary warf, the City and best of all Ally Pally looking grand up on the hill.
Half time I went down to have a look at the bar downstairs, bar my arse, it was amazing, Market Place and it was a sports bar doubled and really jumping, good beer good food and good atmosphere, by the end of the game there was a party going on down there, Levy's idea of staying behind for a drink and a bite to eat makes sense now and will work, it's like nothing you've seen in any other ground.
That's about it really, oh wait, the football bit, the actual bowl bit where all sit and stand and sing and teams play football, well you remember that word I mentioned at the beginning? That's the one, awesome! It's gonna be bloody superb, the stands seem almost perpendicular and so close to the pitch it really is a purpose built football ground and if you didn't make it today, when you see it you are going to love it you really are. Our club really is a touch of class.

 

[Tiffers]

Great feedback guys. Keep it coming. Like others, I’m waiting until C Palace for my first experience (although kinda regretting it just at this moment!). I visited stadium in Dec but today must have been something else. Sadly abroad next week so can’t attend Legends match.
How was the entry admin ? Speed of access, level of bureaucracy and general entrance experience (not transport but one you’d reached stadium). And exit experience too ? Be keen to hear. Especially given today was only half full and sunny afternoon versus full and 8.00 pm Wed night kick off.

Getting in to the stadium south stand was very easy and efficient and the stewards were brilliant and polite. Couldn’t fault anything with access and exit arrangements from the stadium.

Lots of barriers along the route to WHL station and the stewards were using Wembley type STOP and GO bill boards along the route. They were controlling the numbers going on to the platforms so that’s all new.but the trains were coming at a few minute intervals so getting away from the ground was pretty good.

From my experience today the test was very successful.

Oh, and there were no ID checks at the stadium. You needed the ST card or printed ticket to get in to the stadium but once inside there were no further checks anywhere. My grandson was able to sit with us even though his hotspur + membership seat was 3 rows further back from us but the seat next to us was empty .

Another plus for me anyway was having the big screen so close for watching replays and Pooh’s lovely interview at half time. The sound system was fine where we were sitting and so much better than at Wembley. I could even understand what Paul Coyte was saying today ?

 

[MattyP]

Have to say the place is amazing.

Walked round most of the ground, The Shelf bar, Beavertown brewery, programme walls, Market Place, old centre spot. It’s amazing, but as a smoker I’d love if they’d allow you out after the game for a quick puff and then allow you back in.

Walked up to the top of Park Lane for the last ten minutes (row 81 I think it is). My quads have only just recovered.

I first went to the Lane before the internet was invented, the Wi-fi at new WHL is better than any place I think I’ve ever been, let alone a sporting venue.

The concourses are super tight, even with only 30k there. Teething problems with the service at the bars, but that’ll get sorted no doubt.

Can’t wait to go back next weekend. But Palace game will be epic.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Food venders renting the space in the stadium, there are 2 ways they normally pay

1. Pay a fix amount per month
2. Pay a % of taking

That's what I think he is meaning.

But it's Tottenham's own-brand outlets? Sorry if I'm being dumb.

 

[mil1lion]

I'm looking forward to trying the Park Lane end next week. The market place looks great, will definitely have to stay behind for that one. I was in the Shelfside pretty close to central with a perfect view of the pitch. I kind of wanted to walk around every level of this place but even at a reduced capacity there were too many people exploring the place to wonder too much.

The food was decent, I had hotdog with chips. I likes the chips, the sausage would have been better without the bun which was a bit shit. Prices were silly though. Hot dog with chips and diet coke was £8.45, if you want crisps it's £1.60. I also got water at half time for £2 and then found on the way out if I had walked a little further around there was free water.

I hope they sort the train stations out though. WHL is no different, a nightmare on the way home. Hopefully they use Northumberland soon. Otherwise I may try Seven Sisters instead.

 

[Yid-ol]

But it's Tottenham's own-brand outlets? Sorry if I'm being dumb.

Is the food Tottenham own brand? I know we have so e of the beer, but no idea about food.

 

[Lilbaz]

Out of interest, did they do any emergency exit fire alarm testing???

Doubt they'd do that while an event is on.

It sounds like fun and the videos are great.

I think the club's income from the food and drink is going to amount to a fixed rent from each of the concession-holders. There may be some element of the rent that is related to turnover, depending on how the lease agreements have been put together, but normally the leaseholder takes the receipts at their own risk and pays a fixed rent to the landlord.

Also, it is common for these leases to start with a rent-free period, to reflect the fitting-out costs incurred by the leaseholder.

Would the club have any say in pricing?

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Truly bought a tear to my eye.

 

[mark87]

Can't wait until next Saturday, and then the palace game will just be unreal.

 

[tototoner]

Have to say the place is amazing.

Walked round most of the ground, The Shelf bar, Beavertown brewery, programme walls, Market Place, old centre spot. It’s amazing, but as a smoker I’d love if they’d allow you out after the game for a quick puff and then allow you back in.

Is there a stadium plan anywhere that shows where all those places are?

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I don't get what you mean. Who is leasing what?

Whatever THFC company owns the stadium is leasing the individual food and drink outlets to their operators: Beavertown, etc.

Beavertown will keep the receipts from selling beer and then pay whatever rent is in their agreement.

The suggestion was that THFC/Levy would be making a pile because the food and drink concessions did so well today. I don’t think it affects the rent they pay to the club. Not in the short term anyway. Not until the first rent review!

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Whatever THFC company owns the stadium is leasing the individual food and drink outlets to their operators: Beavertown, etc.

Beavertown will keep the receipts from selling beer and then pay whatever rent is in their agreement.

The suggestion was that THFC/Levy would be making a pile because the food and drink concessions did so well today. I don’t think it affects the rent they pay to the club.

Excellent post, thank you for the insight. Do you believe this is how its operating or is this theory?

I wouldn't be surprised if Levy has something in place that sees a percentage of the receipts go towards the club along with a fixed rate for rental. With the amount invested into the dwell time of all fans in the stadium, either fixed rent will be huge compared to a standard stadium feel like at West Ham or Arsenal etc or Levy will be getting a piece of whatever is made along the way as well.

I genuinely wouldn't put it past him that he's secured a certain % of money made from each vendor. Is this a possibility or is that particular business model out of the question/ flawed in practice?

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Just got in from a truly great day. Went to the familiarisation event so knew where everything was. But have to say, with a crowd in there and match on, it was phenomenal.

Had a good look round and moves from my seat in the centre of south stand to try west and north stands during the game and all views and stand are stunning.

Each stand has a unique reel to their concourse and the South Stand is genius.

One small issue is that my season. Ticket will probably quadruple in beer money spent in there next season.

 

[Nodutus]

As a foreigner I understand now how tough this wait must have been for all you native Spurs fans that has been going to old WHL and Tottenham week in and week out probably for the most of your lives. Today I'm buzzing for all of you, and myself of course.

I can't smile without you!

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Would the club have any say in pricing?

Interesting question. I would think there were intense discussions between the club and the concessionaires. Volume and affordability vs. profitability and prestige.

Not really my area of knowledge. I can go on confidently about the leases, but I know less than fuck all about marketing.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Excellent post, thank you for the insight. Do you believe this is how its operating or is this theory?

I wouldn't be surprised if Levy has something in place that sees a percentage of the receipts go towards the club along with a fixed rate for rental. With the amount invested into the dwell time of all fans in the stadium, either fixed rent will be huge compared to a standard stadium feel like at West Ham or Arsenal etc or Levy will be getting a piece of whatever is made along the way as well.

I genuinely wouldn't put it past him that he's secured a certain % of money made from each vendor. Is this a possibility or is that particular business model out of the question/ flawed in practice?

What I described is the usual practice, but as I said, some concessions have a rental linked to turnover. It’s a matter of perceived risk. I doubt the beer outlets have many concerns about turnover. Sushi? Different question entirely.