New Stadium Details And Discussions

[offside_ruel_fox]

Haha, it's not that exciting, but keep an eye on the websites tomorrow I'm also putting 2+2 together and i might well be wrong on that. Things are always changing.

2 + 2 = 4. Four.....ward? Bale is a forward! Yes cracked it Bale is signing tomorrow. Thanks Brasil_Spur!

 

[Lilbaz]

so everyone in govt should be just be honest about it and say we're taxing you because we can. This bullshit about using local infrastructure when those businesses are the ones who have paid for that infrastructure is disingenuous and dishonest.

The local people paid for most of it including spending money in the local businesses. It is a partnership between people, business and government. They shouldn't be treating each other as enemies but working together.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

Someone pointed this out here yesterday...

I was thinking more the smooth finish rather than the infill. Might be a trick of the light?

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Looks like they've just put the final roof cassette onto the south stand. It's amazing how quickly they're getting this roof up.

Does anybody know if another layer has to go over the cassette, or is that it, once they've filled in the gaps?

 

[BujuBanton]

Is anything going on the cables underneath the cassettes? Or is that the roof shell in full?

 

[Japseye]

Looks like they've just put the final roof cassette onto the south stand. It's amazing how quickly they're getting this roof up.

Does anybody know if another layer has to go over the cassette, or is that it, once they've filled in the gaps?

Think there is membrane layer that goes on top to smooth the difference in height between the glass and the other cassettes and is fixed to brackets that you can kinda make out that look like an upturned L in the visible gaps that currently exist, but i could be way off... someone posted the technical drawing on SSC but it I couldn't make head nor tail of it on my phone...

 

[Japseye]

Is anything going on the cables underneath the cassettes? Or is that the roof shell in full?

I don't think so, i think it will be as per the seat selector 3D view where the cables are visible

 

[davidmatzdorf]

so everyone in govt should be just be honest about it and say we're taxing you because we can. This bullshit about using local infrastructure when those businesses are the ones who have paid for that infrastructure is disingenuous and dishonest.

No, each of the the specific S.106 obligations is based on detailed, evidenced formulae related to the number of people living in the new development and how they will increase demand for local libraries, education, public open space, transport, etc. It's a very detailed and well-researched process that every local authority has to carry out. That's one reason why negotiations get so complex.

In response to delays caused by those negotiations, the last government tried to introduce a broad-based, universal tax-type "Community Infrastructure Levy", which was also well-evidenced, but was applied at a per-sq-m rate for each use-class across all developments in a given local authority. It hasn't worked well. It's too crude and there have been too many attempts to provoke exceptions.

The main policy point is that "planning gain", in the 1990 TCPA, has to relate to the load on infrastructure being provided by the specific new development.

Really, this is decades-old stuff, with books and books of case-law written on it. You started off with a sensible basic enquiry about the underlying theory of taxation, but now you're just issuing gross oversimplifications, based on misunderstandings of how the system has been set up.

It isn't bullshit and it isn't a camouflaged form of double-taxation. That's just false. It's a set of contributions based on the additional load placed by a specific new development on specific aspects of local infrastructure, as opposed to a generalised tax toward governmental obligations to provide infrastructure.

They are two different things. Taxation goes toward the provision of an assumed level of infrastructure. When a developer seeks to make a profit by applying for permission to carry out a development that will increase the demand on infrastructure past the level that has been forecast, they have to contribute to the additional load, so local residents and businesses do not have to shoulder the additional costs.

 

[Hoopspur]

That big piece of steel frame? Thats where the cladding will go when they start work on it. I think.

I did notice on the render on the Spurs site and also this one, a big Spurs logo on the cladding itself which I think is going to look great - especially if lit up. To the left of the entrance and above.

 

[Coq_Au_Ginge]

"each letter weighs about one ton..."

 

[RichieS]

Looks like they've just put the final roof cassette onto the south stand. It's amazing how quickly they're getting this roof up.

Does anybody know if another layer has to go over the cassette, or is that it, once they've filled in the gaps?

But but but... People said the roof was going too slowly and it was going to take months.

Something that always bugs me - does "To Dare Is To Do" actually make sense? It sounds cool but I can't help but feel that something is lost in the translation from the Latin. Or maybe I'm just simple.

 

[Hengy1]

But but but... People said the roof was going to slowly and it was going to take months.

It will have took months once finished.

 

[Hoopspur]

Come on you can’t leave us hanging like that. Spill!

It's been suggested on here already that there is a major presentation/meeting tomorrow that includes the NFL. Breezer and maybe others suggested this a few weeks ago also.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Been racking my brains over this for a really long time and I’m not sure if it’s actually been answered...

How are they going to hide the tray rails on the NFL pitch? Surely they can’t be exposed?

 

[hillbilly]

But but but... People said the roof was going too slowly and it was going to take months.

Something that always bugs me - does "To Dare Is To Do" actually make sense? It sounds cool but I can't help but feel that something is lost in the translation from the Latin. Or maybe I'm just simple.

I’m not sure of the meaning intended by the bloke that originally decided this was our motto but...
Audere: present infinitive of audeo, which has a few translations: to intend, be prepared; to dare, venture, risk, act boldly, have the courage to do something
Facere: present infinitive of facio, which translates as to do, create, produce, bring into existence, to perform
Est is from sum (to be) with an infinitive in front it has the meaning ‘it is possible...’

So perhaps the meaning is ‘ you can get stuff done if you take the risk’. Or ‘no risk no gain’

So the next time one of our players passes the ball back to Hugo a few too many times in a game shout “Audere est facere you f**ker!”at him.

 

[Lighty64]

Come on you can’t leave us hanging like that. Spill!

well if grass has been seen, I expect a trial run tomorrow with 3 trays of grass to be rolled out

 

[topper]

Hertyid on Coys
Pretty sure it’s now unofficially confirmed that our first home game is after September international break. Play away until then. Last I heard anyway

 

[Azza1985]

Been racking my brains over this for a really long time and I’m not sure if it’s actually been answered...

How are they going to hide the tray rails on the NFL pitch? Surely they can’t be exposed?

This gets mentioned every 10 pages! Look back to page 1487, there's a video and an explanation.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Just an observation, but on early renditions of the stadium, the sponsor's name is prominent on the roof (not the actual sponsor, but the implication of where it would be.)

We are getting close to where the membrane will be going over the roof tiles, and I suspect that would be printed with the Sponsor's name. I'll confess I have no idea how easy it is to do that - but I am guessing, its not a simple matter. So, we could be very close to the sponsor being named, before someone picks up on it from watching the stadium cams.

 

[dovahkiin]

edmonton replying to hertyids info (posted on the previous page): Yes that’s the last I was told too. Saves us all cancelling our summer holidays to be there for the first game.