New Stadium Details And Discussions

[mpickard2087]

I cant see how people think staying at WHL another season benefits the build, we have to move out. As an amateur onlooker I am assuming the issue is whether the path of demolition - excavation/piling - constructing the sliding pitch - building the south stand - getting the roof on - and finally finishing the job can be done in that timeframe. How can any of that be started until we leave?

The only conundrum will be if, despite Levy saying its not an option, we have to play at Wembley for two seasons instead of just one. The only other option would be to play in an initially partly finished stadium for 2018/19, with the main centre point of the stadium, the South Stand, not open... Which wouldn't exactly look great for publicity.

 

[spursfast]

In short, no, probably not.

The club have previously stated that they intend to keep the ratio of season tickets the same in the new stadium, which is currently about 66%, which means there would be just over 40,000 in total, minus current season ticket holders leaves around 15,000 up for grabs. The current waiting list is just shy of 60,000. Granted, not all of the bronze members will take one if they are offered, but you only need a 25% uptake for the allocation to be fiiled

By the way, I would assume that the allocation made available would be based on NWHL capacity, not Wembley, So that all those who are offered a season ticket can be accommodated when we move to a new permanent home.

one thing, do season ticket holders accrue loyalty points e.g for home games etc

 

[Saoirse]

Oh, now I remember... the Tories are the people's champions aren't they?!

Far from it Problem is the system which lets one party control 56 seats out of 63 on the council (and worse than that in many places). It's not like they're going to lose control of it, so they can do largely as they wish.

 

[SandroClegane]

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/845323120798040064

Retractable pitch trays have arrived...

 

[BedfordshireSpud]

Liverpool Council guaranteeing all the loans needed. Did this happen for us?

There is a big Merseyside dockland regeneration project. They seem to be at the land assembly stage and Liverpool Council will be fronting it as it gives them an element of control over the uses of the land.

Guaranteeing the loan at this stage helps move the project forward and gives the other developers and the banks confidence.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

The only conundrum will be if, despite Levy saying its not an option, we have to play at Wembley for two seasons instead of just one. The only other option would be to play in an initially partly finished stadium for 2018/19, with the main centre point of the stadium, the South Stand, not open... Which wouldn't exactly look great for publicity.

Remember, they haven't even laid a brick of the new South stand yet. If we do open the stadium in 2018/2019, I would have thought it pretty likely that a significant chunk won't be finished. However, with increased capacity in the finished stands I don't think it'll be a disaster if that is the case. We've played in half finished stadiums before.

 

[worcestersauce]

I cant see how people think staying at WHL another season benefits the build, we have to move out. As an amateur onlooker I am assuming the issue is whether the path of demolition - excavation/piling - constructing the sliding pitch - building the south stand - getting the roof on - and finally finishing the job can be done in that timeframe. How can any of that be started until we leave?

The only conundrum will be if, despite Levy saying its not an option, we have to play at Wembley for two seasons instead of just one. The only other option would be to play in an initially partly finished stadium for 2018/19, with the main centre point of the stadium, the South Stand, not open... Which wouldn't exactly look great for publicity.

I agree, I don't think there is enough work to keep the project working at optimum speed, too many jobs will come to an end and without the smooth take up of the work post demolision too many people would have to move off site and come back a year later.

 

[gilzeantheking]

New Spurs Stadium‏@NewSpursStadium 18m18 minutes ago

No confirmation of dates, but plans being put in place for the demolition of White Hart Lane.

 

[Hoopspur]

one thing, do season ticket holders accrue loyalty points e.g for home games etc

I think you had better enjoy this Semi Final (and Final) at Wembley. I cannot see Spurs selling 'enhanced' ST's at the new ground without some sort of queue jumping when it comes to major events. I think the current concept of points will be relooked at. After all, participating finalists are given circa 22.5k tickets per club. If we have 40k ST's with a lot at a higher price then I've got a feeling I know where they'll be going! Those fans that were here for the Superscreen Cup or whatever it was called will be a long distant memory (consideration).

 

[worcestersauce]

New Spurs Stadium‏@NewSpursStadium 18m18 minutes ago

No confirmation of dates, but plans being put in place for the demolition of White Hart Lane.

Pretty much ends the discussion about us staying another year then.

 

[N17Jack]

one thing, do season ticket holders accrue loyalty points e.g for home games etc

Yes there is a loyalty points scheme for season ticket holders. Welcome to the forum by the way

 

[onlyonekeano]

I think you had better enjoy this Semi Final (and Final) at Wembley. I cannot see Spurs selling 'enhanced' ST's at the new ground without some sort of queue jumping when it comes to major events. I think the current concept of points will be relooked at. After all, participating finalists are given circa 22.5k tickets per club. If we have 40k ST's with a lot at a higher price then I've got a feeling I know where they'll be going! Those fans that were here for the Superscreen Cup or whatever it was called will be a long distant memory (consideration).

It was actually raised to 28,650 per team for last year's final (http://www.thefa.com/news/2016/feb/26/fa-increase-fans-ticket-allocations-for-emirates-fa-cup-final). Your point still stands but it's not quite as severe as you suggest. Will be interesting to see what system the club adopts.

 

[philip]

Remember, they haven't even laid a brick of the new South stand yet. If we do open the stadium in 2018/2019, I would have thought it pretty likely that a significant chunk won't be finished. However, with increased capacity in the finished stands I don't think it'll be a disaster if that is the case. We've played in half finished stadiums before.

There are no bricks in the new South stand.

One of the reasons behind it's very Oren simple steel frame design is so that we can slide the pitch under it (concrete would need many more supports and make that not viable) and so that it can be built really quickly.

The top tier of the North stand is practically ready for the concrete seating, and it's taken just a few weeks to put up. The entire south stand is that construction, it won't take more than 3-4 months to build. The platform underneath and podium will take longer.

The stadium can't open half built as the roof, which is a tension design, can only start when all four stands are built (if not fitted out). We can't open without a roof.

 

[danielneeds]

There are no bricks in the new South stand.

One of the reasons behind it's very Oren simple steel frame design is so that we can slide the pitch under it (concrete would need many more supports and make that not viable) and so that it can be built really quickly.

The top tier of the North stand is practically ready for the concrete seating, and it's taken just a few weeks to put up. The entire south stand is that construction, it won't take more than 3-4 months to build. The platform underneath and podium will take longer.

The stadium can't open half built as the roof, which is a tension design, can only start when all four stands are built (if not fitted out). We can't open without a roof.

The way I see the South Stand is almost like a conservatory on the end of a house... Easy to put up and let's lots of light in!

 

[spursfast]

Yes there is a loyalty points scheme for season ticket holders. Welcome to the forum by the way

oh rt, can i ask do ST,s also lose their LP drop off after 4 years as members do

 

[N17Jack]

oh rt, can i ask do ST,s also lose their LP drop off after 4 years as members do

Yes they do.

 

[beats1]

There are no bricks in the new South stand.

One of the reasons behind it's very Oren simple steel frame design is so that we can slide the pitch under it (concrete would need many more supports and make that not viable) and so that it can be built really quickly.

The top tier of the North stand is practically ready for the concrete seating, and it's taken just a few weeks to put up. The entire south stand is that construction, it won't take more than 3-4 months to build. The platform underneath and podium will take longer.

The stadium can't open half built as the roof, which is a tension design, can only start when all four stands are built (if not fitted out). We can't open without a roof.

Not true, you can have a tension roof that is partly completed, it simply needs a load to placed on the ends to put it in tension

 

[sxboy]

In short, no, probably not.

The club have previously stated that they intend to keep the ratio of season tickets the same in the new stadium, which is currently about 66%, which means there would be just over 40,000 in total, minus current season ticket holders leaves around 15,000 up for grabs. The current waiting list is just shy of 60,000. Granted, not all of the bronze members will take one if they are offered, but you only need a 25% uptake for the allocation to be fiiled

By the way, I would assume that the allocation made available would be based on NWHL capacity, not Wembley, So that all those who are offered a season ticket can be accommodated when we move to a new permanent home.

Exactly right 40000 at the new stadium, I was told this when I went to the premium seat thing a few weeks ago.

 

[BPR_U16]

Hope unfounded but been told by very good source on build that decision as to whether we are vacating stadium this summer is still to be taken
Work has progressed well last few weeks but still touch and go with final decision meant to have been taken back end last week when Wembley outcome known. If leave could still be we are out for more than one season as will be very tight. If 2 yr plan decided then work will be scaled back.

 

[DukeUSA]

Hope unfounded but been told by very good source on build that decision as to whether we are vacating stadium this summer is still to be taken
Work has progressed well last few weeks but still touch and go with final decision meant to have been taken back end last week when Wembley outcome known. If leave could still be we are out for more than one season as will be very tight. If 2 yr plan decided then work will be scaled back.

The only part of this that is remotely plausible is the 2 year portion. The work is too far along to scale back. We are reaching a point where the work that is left can't be done in an occupied stadium. The work being scaled back does not make financial sense because the workers will be employed longer and the cost of the build will grow. We are in the last year at WHL in its current configuration. We may be at Wembley longer than planned but we will not play at WHL after the 15th of May this year.