The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Everlasting Seconds]

"Tielemans? No, I only want players who will improve us. The spot where Dembele used to sit and a broken Wanyama are of a far higher standard."

Yeah, it's probably not the right time to raise questions about anything Pochettino related, but if his targets are (as an example) Kante and De Bruyne or nobody, then he's gonna have a bad time.

I don't think there is any doubt that Pochettino can improve on transfer decisions, but those he buy and those he passes up on. Good the chap can improve, right!

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

From @Allygold :

https://www.football.london/tottenh...s-fans-gatecrashing-pochettino-press-16249641

Fans in the press conference room
Pochettino's press conference had two strange moments to end it.

It's well known now that he walked out when he heard the final question asking if Harry Kane would be fit - the Spurs boss always thinks it's disrespectful to talk about other players as if they're better than the ones who did the job, and what a job at that.

What happened after was equally bizarre though.

As he was walking out, someone shouted: 'Hey Mauricio, you know what?'

He stopped and turned, and the person added: "You're magic you know."

Pochettino didn't quite know what was going on, the person had to repeat it and he eventually understood, smiled, waved and thanked them.

It appeared that two Spurs fans had managed to get into the press room and they were desperate to let the manager know how they felt.

It was cheesy as anything but on a night like this nobody particularly minded.

 

[U.S. Spurs Fan]

I know Trix has repeatedly said the money was there, but it is hard for me to blame Poch because we simply don't know who the secondary options that were available that Poch turned down. Yes, it is not always possible to get the first choice (DeJong, DeLigt,etc) and Poch probably does need to be more flexible there, but Levy has a history of getting players that were cheap options that turned out awful. I know people will say Janssen was Poch's choice, but by all accounts, he wanted Batshuayi first, not Janssen. The only ones I believe we know about was Tielemans (who had no buy option).

I also wonder why if the money was there, why was the Grealish move screwed up so badly?

I think Levy's history precedes him here and is why so many fans question him in regards to the past two transfer windows. Poch has does wonders and if anyone has the right to be stubborn and picky, I think it's Poch.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

I know Trix has repeatedly said the money was there, but it is hard for me to blame Poch because we simply don't know who the secondary options that were available that Poch turned down. Yes, it is not always possible to get the first choice (DeJong, DeLigt,etc) and Poch probably does need to be more flexible there, but Levy has a history of getting players that were cheap options that turned out awful. I know people will say Janssen was Poch's choice, but by all accounts, he wanted Batshuayi first, not Janssen. The only ones I believe we know about was Tielemans (who had no buy option).

I also wonder why if the money was there, why was the Grealish move screwed up so badly?

I think Levy's history precedes him here and is why so many fans question him in regards to the past two transfer windows. Poch has does wonders and if anyone has the right to be stubborn and picky, I think it's Poch.

Good post mate but not sure why LevyPR is out so early, transfer window hasn't even opened yet... Poch has done an amazing job with the tools he had, not sure how it can be argued otherwise, so let's all enjoy the moment, BSoDL and Anti-Enicers hand in hand, this conversation is for another day. PS I was happy to see Levy celebrate with the players

 

[whitesocks]

That was a bit unfair by MP.
He effectively let Kane charge all around the pitch at full time, getting a lot of the media's attention. It is natural enough for a journo to follow that up with a question on Kane's fitness.

 

[Shadydan]

That was a bit unfair by MP.
He effectively let Kane charge all around the pitch at full time, getting a lot of the media's attention. It is natural enough for a journo to follow that up with a question on Kane's fitness.

His point was they shouldn't be asking about it and focus on the result as it's unfair to the other players.

I can't remember when he got a bit upset at a journalist asking the same sort of question after we won a match earlier in the season.

 

[Lighty64]

The problem is, we need good subs. There's been soo many occasions this season where our Bench has been a joke and we've had nothing to change the game.

so if Poch had 4-5 targets, and like De Jong didn't want to join us, what should we have done. all our WC players bar Jan whose had a couple of breaks due to injury have preformed poorly, so how much cover should we of brought in, and how was we to know which of the 12 wouldn't preform and how was they meant to know most of that 12 have missed out due to injury this season

 

[Lighty64]

Agreed. Not getting in a replacement for Dembele was baffling.

please read this, then you might understand, if you don't understand then you might as well whistle in the wind.

Poch PROMISED Foyth a place in the CL squad if we sold anyone in the January window. to only sell Dembele meant to buy a replacement we would of had to buy a HG player, and at the time there wasn't a HG player available. if we had gone for Tieleman he would of had to be omitted from the CL squad or another player would of had to be dropped out.

so who would you have left out. and remember the 2 players that have replaced Dembele this season has been Sissoko and Winks who wasn't injured at the time

 

[Lighty64]

"Tielemans? No, I only want players who will improve us. The spot where Dembele used to sit and a broken Wanyama are of a far higher standard."

Yeah, it's probably not the right time to raise questions about anything Pochettino related, but if his targets are (as an example) Kante and De Bruyne or nobody, then he's gonna have a bad time.

Wanyama is a DM, Tielemans isn't

Dembele was a CM, his place was filled by Winks and Sissoko. if Dembele could of been used for another season, we would of only seen Sissoko occasionally when either needed rotating.

with Tielemans he would of played in place of Dembele, Alli or Eriksen, but wouldn't of been able to play CL, because we never had room for another overseas player in the CL squad.

read my post above

 

[Colonel Dax]

please read this, then you might understand, if you don't understand then you might as well whistle in the wind.

Poch PROMISED Foyth a place in the CL squad if we sold anyone in the January window. to only sell Dembele meant to buy a replacement we would of had to buy a HG player, and at the time there wasn't a HG player available. if we had gone for Tieleman he would of had to be omitted from the CL squad or another player would of had to be dropped out.

so who would you have left out. and remember the 2 players that have replaced Dembele this season has been Sissoko and Winks who wasn't injured at the time

Blimey, could you be any more patronising?

As for your argument, yes I do understand the Foyth dilemma but that shouldn't have prevented us from buying someone. We left ourselves short in midfield. By doing a little planning last summer the homegrown issue could've been avoided.

 

[Lighty64]

Good post mate but not sure why LevyPR is out so early, transfer window hasn't even opened yet... Poch has done an amazing job with the tools he had, not sure how it can be argued otherwise, so let's all enjoy the moment, BSoDL and Anti-Enicers hand in hand, this conversation is for another day. PS I was happy to see Levy celebrate with the players

and that rating was before I read the last line

 

[Lighty64]

Blimey, could you be any more patronising?

As for your argument, yes I do understand the Foyth dilemma but that shouldn't have prevented us from buying someone. We left ourselves short in midfield. By doing a little planning last summer the homegrown issue could've been avoided.

apologies but I've posted this so many times and find it hard anyone could of missed it on the different threads it's been posted on.

and yes your right but we had to sign a HG player, and if there isn't one available or good enough to try and take us to where Poch wants, we are then lumbered with a player we might have trouble getting rid of later

 

[homer hotspur]

I would like to think that, once the dust settles, poch will clarify his recent strange comments about leaving if we win/lose the final. He's bound to get the question thrown at him before and after Everton so, lets hope, he says something encouraging for us worried fans and the players alike. If he continues this sort of line, it could soon become rather destabilising.

 

[Legacy]

I know Trix has repeatedly said the money was there, but it is hard for me to blame Poch because we simply don't know who the secondary options that were available that Poch turned down. Yes, it is not always possible to get the first choice (DeJong, DeLigt,etc) and Poch probably does need to be more flexible there, but Levy has a history of getting players that were cheap options that turned out awful. I know people will say Janssen was Poch's choice, but by all accounts, he wanted Batshuayi first, not Janssen. The only ones I believe we know about was Tielemans (who had no buy option).

I also wonder why if the money was there, why was the Grealish move screwed up so badly?

I think Levy's history precedes him here and is why so many fans question him in regards to the past two transfer windows. Poch has does wonders and if anyone has the right to be stubborn and picky, I think it's Poch.

Because of the change of ownership at Villa? The previous owners agreed a deal but the new owners refused to sell their best player when they had only just bought the club?

I have a family member who has connections to the Grealish family. We had heard from them that they were confident that Jack was going to be a Spurs player last summer, until the new owners put a stop to it.

 

[Colonel Dax]

apologies but I've posted this so many times and find it hard anyone could of missed it on the different threads it's been posted on.

and yes your right but we had to sign a HG player, and if there isn't one available or good enough to try and take us to where Poch wants, we are then lumbered with a player we might have trouble getting rid of later

Well, one way of getting round that was to not include Vorm in the squad and bring in a HG goalkeeper ? Anyhow, pointless discussion today, isn't it. Let's just enjoy getting to the CL final ? ?

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

If we win I want this as a statue outside the stadium

 

[Kiedis]

Wanyama is a DM, Tielemans isn't

Dembele was a CM, his place was filled by Winks and Sissoko. if Dembele could of been used for another season, we would of only seen Sissoko occasionally when either needed rotating.

with Tielemans he would of played in place of Dembele, Alli or Eriksen, but wouldn't of been able to play CL, because we never had room for another overseas player in the CL squad.

read my post above

The names weren't really important. I just find it a bit strange that there wouldn't be a single obtainable player that could add value to a midfield with three injury prone players in Winks, Dembele and Wanyama.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

If we win I want this as a statue outside the stadium

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If we win I can guarantee there's going to be a whole new wave of Poch poses readily available for sculpting !

 

[U.S. Spurs Fan]

Because of the change of ownership at Villa? The previous owners agreed a deal but the new owners refused to sell their best player when they had only just bought the club?

I have a family member who has connections to the Grealish family. We had heard from them that they were confident that Jack was going to be a Spurs player last summer, until the new owners put a stop to it.

Yes but as the story goes, Levy hesitated trying to get a lower price from the original owners instead of just paying what they asked (which I think was around 25 mill). He could have had a deal right away with the old owners but haggled. Now his quoted release clause is supposed to be 60 mill.

 

[curlacious]

The most incredible moment yesterday was at the final whistle when Poch, in the midst of chaotic scenes and emotion, resists Harry's calls to run out to the players, and turns to the bench to shake hands with the officials and Erik ten Hag. Such statesmanlike behaviour and control of emotions among total bedlam, it's actually hard to believe when you re-watch it: