The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Wheeler Dealer]

Onomah isn't ready, that much is obvious.

If he's not ready at 21 years old, then I doubt whether he'll ever be ready for a team chasing top 4

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Also do you have an obsession with Unicorns by the way as you mention them a lot

They give him the horn

 

[Deleted member 27995]

They give him the horn

Classic zinger!

 

[Shadydan]

Wasn't what was intimated to us during the summer ...

What were we told then and by whom?

 

[Shadydan]

If he's not ready at 21 years old, then I doubt whether he'll ever be ready for a team chasing top 4

Some players are late bloomers, not all young players follow the same trajectory.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Some players are late bloomers, not all young players follow the same trajectory.

In your honest opinion ,do you ever see him as a first team regular here at Spurs?

 

[Shadydan]

In your honest opinion ,do you ever see him as a first team regular here at Spurs?

Hard to say, I think Josh needs to take this opportunity at Sheff Wed and grab the bull by the horns over there because I reckon this is his last chance. I always said that he needs to find his position first where he's the most comfortable as we don't know whether his future lies as a AMF, CMF or a DMF. If he's able to hold down a first team place and at he same time show progression and maturity in that role then he has every chance of making at Spurs, if it's another year like last season at Villa where he's in and out the first team then I don't think he'll make it and I'm not sure he would be able to have any complaints.

 

[buckley]

I don't know why your bothering with this Poch thing because all I can see is that g.balague says he is inches away from walking out on us .So why bother .
If he does are we buggered or will we be able to get a capable replacement

 

[mmillerlight]

I find his recent comments that we were complacent after Man U interesting because I don’t think the performance changed. Given we were good second half against United but our first three games were not really better than our last 3 games other than the result.

 

[sausage]

Errr....actually yes they are. That is why it is always the clubs who SPEND THE MOST MONEY who always win the trophies.

Ah yes, because Everton are quite simply overflowing with trophies (net £200m over the last 5 season, fees only). West Ham, Brighton, Palace, Bournemouth.....

It's beyond ridiculous to suggest that you can simply "buy" trophies in the boadroom. Fulham, Leeds, QPR, Sunderland, Newcastle and countless others have found this out in the last 20 odd years.

Trophies are won on the pitch by players and managers, and the board have very little ability to prevent the players falling to pieces in the semis and finals. Certainly a significant amount less than the players and manager.

 

[daryl hannah]

Ah yes, because Everton are quite simply overflowing with trophies (net £200m over the last 5 season, fees only). West Ham, Brighton, Palace, Bournemouth.....

It's beyond ridiculous to suggest that you can simply "buy" trophies in the boadroom. Fulham, Leeds, QPR, Sunderland, Newcastle and countless others have found this out in the last 20 odd years.

Trophies are won on the pitch by players and managers, and the board have very little ability to prevent the players falling to pieces in the semis and finals. Certainly a significant amount less than the players and manager.

Levy hired something like 12 managers before Poch arrived and all of them flopped under him. Ramos won a trophy but was sacked the following week or whatever. You really want to start that process again? Come off it.

Everton aren't a top 6 club so can't attract the cream of the crop when it comes to transfers. £200m in today's market gets you 4 players if you're lucky. The current top 6 invested before the market went crazy. De Bruyne was until recently their most expensive acquisition at £50m - is he worth that today? treble it.

The key was to invest £500m about 5 years ago. That money just gets recycled now. Chelsea are FFP compliant. That's all you need to know. Sure when Abramovich sells up he'll want his money back. But he has 6, YES 6 premier league titles to his name. A champions league title, and a Europa league title. You could argue that they 'yoyo' their league position because they have a new manager every 5 minutes. You really want to go back to those days? Yeah, right.

 

[sausage]

Levy hired something like 12 managers before Poch arrived and all of them flopped under him. Ramos won a trophy but was sacked the following week or whatever. You really want to start that process again? Come off it.

Fuck me, 8 months with like 2 wins is now one week

You SDoDLs are reaching new levels of fiction to try and build an agenda now

 

[sausage]

Also

Levy hired something like 12 managers before Poch arrived

6 - and that's counting Santini and Sherwood (which is tenuous at best).

and all of them flopped under him.

All of them flopped.

So Jol getting 5th and into Europe twice after taking over quite literally a mid-table team is "flopping"?

Redknapp getting us in the top 4 twice and into the CL Quarters is flopping?


Jesus...

 

[daryl hannah]

Also



6 - and that's counting Santini and Sherwood (which is tenuous at best).



All of them flopped.

So Jol getting 5th and into Europe twice after taking over quite literally a mid-table team is "flopping"?

Redknapp getting us in the top 4 twice and into the CL Quarters is flopping?


Jesus...

So you're saying you didn't write this?

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/mauricio-pochettino.126827/page-394#post-6042627

(1998) - George Graham
2001 - David Pleat
2001 - Glenn Hoddle
2003 - David Pleat
2004 - Jacques Santini
2004 - Martin Jol
2007 - Clive Allen & Alex Inglethorpe
2007 - Juande Ramos
2008 - Clive Allen & Alex Inglethorpe
2008 - Harry Redknapp
2012 - André Villas Boas
2013 - Tim Sherwood
2014 - Poch

Poch is technically the 12th different manager under Daniel Levy.

FYI - Poch has the highest win % of any spurs manager since 1899.

 

[sausage]

So you're saying you didn't write this?

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/mauricio-pochettino.126827/page-394#post-6042627

Impressive level of "let's ignore the nonsense daryl hannah posted", but humour me as to what that post has to do with anything?

 

[nedley]

In your honest opinion ,do you ever see him as a first team regular here at Spurs?

Harry Kane had just turned 21 before his breakout season. Just a season or two before you dismissed him for lacking movement, pace and power. He went on to show exactly that in abundance.

I believe Ian Wright was 21/22 before he shone at the top level.

21 is still very young, even more so now with players careers going on so long. He may not make it with us but he could still turn out to be one hell of a player if the environment is right and things come together.

 

[sausage]

Harry Kane had just turned 21 before his breakout season. Just a season or two before you dismissed him for lacking movement, pace and power. He went on to show exactly that in abundance.

I believe Ian Wright was 21/22 before he shone at the top level.

21 is still very young, even more so now with players careers going on so long. He may not make it with us but he could still turn out to be one hell of a player if the environment is right and things come together.

Mason was, what? 24 before he broke into the team and, prior to injuries, looked every bit the kind of midfielder we've been missing (unlucky bloke). Not all PL players are suited to the Championship tbf.

 

[hakano]

Ah yes, because Everton are quite simply overflowing with trophies (net £200m over the last 5 season, fees only). West Ham, Brighton, Palace, Bournemouth.....

It's beyond ridiculous to suggest that you can simply "buy" trophies in the boadroom. Fulham, Leeds, QPR, Sunderland, Newcastle and countless others have found this out in the last 20 odd years.

Trophies are won on the pitch by players and managers, and the board have very little ability to prevent the players falling to pieces in the semis and finals. Certainly a significant amount less than the players and manager.

But why are you only looking for the worst examples to back your case? With a bit more backing from the board we would have had more chance of success - no guarantees for sure but more of a chance, absolutely. It’s beyond ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

U study ur dogs arse hole?

Study is probably too strong a word. It’s more like the occasional glance when it rubs its arse on the rug. You know, checking for blockage or worms. But no lectures, workshops, essays, academic journals, conferences, working parties, editorial committees, deferments, sabbaticals, post-grad applications, tenureships, research loans, Harvard referencing etc. None of that, really

 

[Diarmuid]

Sums up dier's approach recently.
He rubs his arse off the game!