Mauricio Pochettino says Tottenham need to learn after Liverpool loss

[mawspurs]

Mauricio Pochettino admitted that Tottenham Hotspur had been taught some important lessons in their loss to Liverpool.

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[yido_number1]

Didn't get to watch the game yesterday but a disappointing result. Hopefully we can learn from it and push on. We have some more good fixtures coming up and hopefully this is a blip!

 

[Japhet]

Didn't do too bad to start off but the ridiculously soft penalty killed us off.

 

[greywizard2020]

There were no arguments with the result yesterday. The penalty was a massive turning-point, but make no mistake Liverpool were much faster in their passing; they were more direct in their running and they were more disciplined in their play; everything that the Poch wants in his Tottehham side.

Win or lose this was a great learning exercise for the players, but more importantly the manager & coaching staff. They will have identified those types of players that we need to take us to the next level, the level Liverpool are at currently, in order to break that top-four & bring home some silverware.

The Poch will also have realised which players that just don't cut the mustard anymore: Kaboul didn't look great against better opposition losing the ball at times under no pressure. I thought for Moreno's goal he could have come across to meet him a lot sooner. Vertonghen already had Sturridge, so Kaboul needed to come across & actually defend. Townsend didn't do anything apart from some poorly executed play that led to their goal. Chadli ought to have done better with his chance, but offered little offensively. Adebayor didn't have one of his best games; his link-up play being particularly poor.

The likes of Eric Dier & Erik Lamela got schooled yesterday: Lamela was closed down well & will be told he needs to work on his guile & craft in order to make him more effective, particularly against more class opposition. As Redknapp pointed out at half-time, Dier should've paid closer attention to Sterling's run for the 1st goal & he should've just let Allen go & try to recover when he gave away the penalty.
They are both good players who will know they need to learn from this & move on to the next game.

Ultimately, Liverpool have had 2 years with Rodgers whereas we have had only 2 months. We will get better, but it will take time for the Poch to create the squad he wants capable of challenging for honours.

 

[beuller]

Beaten by a better team yesterday.

We really struggled to create chances and all of our creative players; erikson, lamela et al were expertly shackled.

I would probably have used holtby instead of Townsend.

Lamela should have been withdrawn too. They had his number. He was frustrated, I was frustrated. Tbh, he didn't appear to be learning from anything. He was dispossessed pretty much constantly in the second half. Really poor.

 

[scottlag10]

Beaten by a better team yesterday.

We really struggled to create chances and all of our creative players; erikson, lamela et al were expertly shackled.

I would probably have used holtby instead of Townsend.

Lamela should have been withdrawn too. They had his number. He was frustrated, I was frustrated. Tbh, he didn't appear to be learning from anything. He was dispossessed pretty much constantly in the second half. Really poor.

Lamela was indeed expertly shackled, every time he did break free they fouled him, especially first half, hence his frustration.
I know we concede too many goals against top teams but we score so few against them as well, If Ade and Chadli had taken their chances, like top strikers at top teams do, it might of been a completely different outcome.

 

[balalasaurus]

Beaten by a better team yesterday.

We really struggled to create chances and all of our creative players; erikson, lamela et al were expertly shackled.

I would probably have used holtby instead of Townsend.

Lamela should have been withdrawn too. They had his number. He was frustrated, I was frustrated. Tbh, he didn't appear to be learning from anything. He was dispossessed pretty much constantly in the second half. Really poor.

Not better.

At least I don't think so.

Our tactics were wrong.

They were much more comfortable with the the style we've been trying to play than we were. However they were vulnerable to route one football. Our best chances came from long balls over their defensive lines. That's the strategy we should have taken. Would have been a much better contest IMO.

 

[postigol]

Not better.

At least I don't think so.

Our tactics were wrong.

They were much more comfortable with the the style we've been trying to play than we were. However they were vulnerable to route one football. Our best chances came from long balls over their defensive lines. That's the strategy we should have taken. Would have been a much better contest IMO.

They looked much better. We tried to compete in the first half, but around the 1hr mark it looked like we just wanted to wait for end of the game and we weren't fighting any longer.

 

[coys63]

Kaboul - 3rd game in 8 days against a quick side full of movement was a mistake. At least yesterday showed Poch he is not the player he was and not good enough to be 1st choice and captain (Didn't most of us know that already?).

Personally I would move Verts back to LB (where he plays for Belgium with no fuss) in place of Rose (England squad?!? - says more about England and Roy than it does Rose). Fazio wasn't bought to warm the bench so play him alongside Vlad, who I think is terribly underrated. He hasn't had a lot of games since arriving and I feel given a run in the team he would vindicate the faith.

For those Lambasting Lamela, I agree he struggled, however, a player of his ilk needs movement around him. Unfortunately there wasn't much of that yesterday. Very pedestrian and the players all seemed a little nervy, panicky, unsettled... I think the ocassion got to them collectively.

Not all is lost. Plenty to be positive about. It's early days and points in front of Arsenal, United and Everton. Now if we can just maintain that for another 35 games.....

 

[buckley]

rodgers 2 years at pool
poch 2 months at spurs
victory and defeat
dont get too up when we win
dont get too down when we lose
in 6 months time we will be in a position to judge

 

[CheeseGromit]

Poch is correct in his assessment (phew)

We were beaten by a better team and Rogers has organised them well

They were quicker than us and that led to a breakdown in a numbers of areas. Denied time makes it exceedingly difficult for the (lesser paced) skilled players

It was a good lesson for Lamela and he will learn from it. Although I like the fluid No 10 role it has disadvantages against the better sides as if nullified it means it takes 3 of our players out of the game. Poch will have to decide who his favoured 10 is. All 3 of Lamela Eriksen and Chadli are fighting for 1 position

Defensively we struggled and individual performances from Kaboul Rose and the defensive mid field 2 suffered

The heartbeat of the team needs to be regulated and that will take a couple of signings and that will provide opportunity for others to have that little bit more space to exploit

I have optimism as I think that as we go forward the player limitations will be countered by a signing or two and a better understanding of team dynamics through the system played by Poch

It is rarely about one or maybe two players at this level it is about them being 'able' to fit into the system being played. (It's why some players thrive under some managers and takes some time to become effective)

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Not better.

At least I don't think so.

Our tactics were wrong.

If you don't think that Liverpool were not the better side (by a long way) then you are clearly in denial of the facts.

 

[slartibartfast]

It doesn't matter who you play. If you keep passing to the opposition 9 times out of 10, miss absolute fuckin sitters, play at such a slow pace the opposition have 11 men behind the ball by the time you get in their half, if you go backwards with EVERY bloody throw in and free kick you get in the oppositions half, then you will struggle against anyone.
I don't think I've ever seen so many players perform so badly at the same time.
Strange as we've been playing so well that we reverted back to AVB tatics and seemed totally incapable of passing to someone in a white shirt.
Let's hope this was just a bad day at the office and we learn from it.
Very disappointing. Not getting beat but the manner in which it came about.

 

[the shelf]

It doesn't matter who you play. If you keep passing to the opposition 9 times out of 10, miss absolute fuckin sitters, play at such a slow pace the opposition have 11 men behind the ball by the time you get in their half, if you go backwards with EVERY bloody throw in and free kick you get in the oppositions half, then you will struggle against anyone.
I don't think I've ever seen so many players perform so badly at the same time.
Strange as we've been playing so well that we reverted back to AVB tatics and seemed totally incapable of passing to someone in a white shirt.
Let's hope this was just a bad day at the office and we learn from it.
Very disappointing. Not getting beat but the manner in which it came about.

We missed two 'sitters' to their half a dozen so it could (and should) have been a lot worse!

 

[jolsnogross]

That was a very poor defeat yesterday. A poor score line and an even worse performance. The nature of the loss was the most surprising aspect because Pochettino's reputation for being a tough trainer and builder of team spirit seemed out of place. And the saints had some pretty limp losses last year too when you felt Poch could have done more to change things.

Playing two defensive midfielders at home is a bit embarrassing most times, but when they're both so slow at moving the ball and inept at tracker runners, then it's even more baffling to stick with it. But this is what counts as tactics these days. The result being we had nobody breaking past the ball and a completely isolated striker. Just like last season. Six defenders, a weak line of three behind the striker, and a striker whose basically left alone by his team mates.

I'd rather hear less about philosophies and see more attacking intent. Unless we pull our finger out in an attacking sense, then the solid foundation approach, which was wheeled out time and again by AVB's defenders, will result in turgid footy and poor performances time and again. Other teams can let us have the ball, because nearly all of our team is standing behind it. And a "philosophy" that depends on solely dispossessing the opposition in their own third is not one that will get us anywhere above 7th.

Early days still, but it's a concern to see another performance with such few genuine goal scoring chances from us yet again.

 

[balalasaurus]

They looked much better. We tried to compete in the first half, but around the 1hr mark it looked like we just wanted to wait for end of the game and we weren't fighting any longer.

If you don't think that Liverpool were not the better side (by a long way) then you are clearly in denial of the facts.

I call it how I see it. Personally that first goal had something of a luck factor to me and was predominantly our own fault if you ask me. Capoue started tracking Henderson's run from way too far forward and mistimed it. Also Kaboul was ball watching rather than helping Dier mark Sterling (this is in spite of the fact he earlier motioned to Dier to watch his man). Both mistakes could have been avoided if we set out with the right tactics.

By the 60th minute of course they would have appeared to not be fighting. Look at the last two results against Liverpool. 5-0 and 4-0 successively. It doesn't take too active an imagination to infer that some hesitation would arise as a result of previous experiences. And let's not forget that the team that played is in essence still the same Spurs squad that experienced such heavy losses. That penalty basically killed any momentum we had and basically gave the game to them.

As for the third goal I can only say that we gave up too easily (a consequence of the above fact). Townsend let's off the gas tracking his man back and Kaboul and is, again, out of position nor does he get back in position fast enough.

I can see how they can be viewed as being 'better' but I stand by my point that we simply came out with the wrong tactics (which is understandable). As it stands Poch is trying to impress a philosophy upon the squad. We're slowly adopting it but I'd say we're still far from actually playing that way effortlessly. Liverpool on the other hand already know how they play. Personally I think that Poch took a risk employing the tactics he did but it could also be said that it was a risk he had to take to give our team it's identity. I agree with his sentiments that this is a learning opportunity and that we'll improve. Just a matter of when for me.

 

[slartibartfast]

Agree with all posts above and all make valid points.
Personally I dont believe Poch got the tactics wrong or was at fault. Had he known Erikson had his boots on the wrong feet or Lloris and Kaboul were gonna pass to a Liverlool player almost every time they got the ball he probably would have started with a different 11.
I also agree nerves and hesitancy may have played a part because we looked scared in opening minutes and after they nearly scored and we'd had a few poor passes it seemed to spread throughout the team. Can't blame youth either because it was the older players that were most culpable.
Yes Liverpool had more chances but they will do if our cbs and keeper keep passing the ball to their bloody midfield and strikers.
They didnt really play through us or hit us with a long ball over the top. It was mistakes of our own making. Thats whats upsetting, not the defeat itself.

 

[diamondlight]

A player of his ilk needs movement around him. Unfortunately there wasn't much of that yesterday.

That was the thing that stuck out for me - a dire lack of movement from everyone in a spurs shirt.

I cannot believe that Poch set us up to play statically, and I don't believe the players were too tired, so I can only assume that psychologically they didn't make enough effort; didn't want the ball enough. Why? Inferiority complex, and a lack of leadership on the pitch.

 

[Good Doctor M]

The difference yesterday was how the teams were drilled. Liverpool knew how to disrupt us. They tugged at the players shirts everywhere across the field, they killed our midfield by being much more physical than us. We closed down well but didn't have enough steel. Liverpool did. that was the difference for me.

 

[diamondlight]

The difference yesterday was how the teams were drilled. Liverpool knew how to disrupt us. They tugged at the players shirts everywhere across the field, they killed our midfield by being much more physical than us. We closed down well but didn't have enough steel. Liverpool did. that was the difference for me.

Yup, good points. Shows how far we've come when instead of lamenting how rubbish our players are (remember Gregor Rasiak, anyone?), we're lamenting how we were out-thought and out-fought tactically by an extremely well drilled title contending side. Our players can come back from this, wiser and better.