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talkshowhost86

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Such a surreal atmosphere that game against getafe, and you could see he was visibly moved when everyone was singing stand up for Martin jol, one of my fave managers behind poch. Always loved him for squaring upto wenger that tome at Highbury! He so would of broke him on two ?

Was a real low point for the club that night. Was probably the closest I got to wanting Levy completely gone.
 

Mate

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Some great memories under him (Squaring up to Wenger, the wild celebration with Kaboul in that 4-4, the Lennon/Ledley moments against Chelsea) and some bad ones (Lasagne-gate, Hossam Ghaly throwing his shirt after being hauled off, Getafe).

Glad that he was at the finale as he fully deserved to be there, along with Harry.
 

Shadydan

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Such a surreal atmosphere that game against getafe, and you could see he was visibly moved when everyone was singing stand up for Martin jol, one of my fave managers behind poch. Always loved him for squaring upto wenger that tome at Highbury! He so would of broke him on two ?

I'm sure it was against Sevilla
 

markt

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Glad he still has affection for the club. It was under Jol that my love for Spurs came back. Not a perfect manager, but a great character, played entertaining football and started our rise up the table. Hope he is welcomed back as a special guest at the new stadium at some point.
 

popstar7

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Sevilla knocking us out of the UEFA Cup (and then winning it) in 2006/07 was probably what got Jol the sack and Juande Ramos in the following season,

Everyone in Seville thought Ramos was integral to their success. As it turned out Sevilla went from strength to strength without him and we flatlined.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Martin Jol has been a Spurs supporter since he was a little boy. So it's not just about his managerial time with us. He's a fan.
 

rez9000

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Sevilla knocking us out of the UEFA Cup (and then winning it) in 2006/07 was probably what got Jol the sack and Juande Ramos in the following season,

Everyone in Seville thought Ramos was integral to their success. As it turned out Sevilla went from strength to strength without him and we flatlined.
It was Sevilla's DoF that was the real brains behind their success. We got the wrong guy in.
 

rez9000

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Glad he still has affection for the club. It was under Jol that my love for Spurs came back. Not a perfect manager, but a great character, played entertaining football and started our rise up the table. Hope he is welcomed back as a special guest at the new stadium at some point.
And get him to say, "chaawnches". Just one last time.
 

walworthyid

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He really made me proud to be spurs again. He made us play with passion, but the right way. I remember zokora diving for a penalty and jol saying that he will have a word with him as spurs dont play that way.

We wouldn't be here without jol.

Thanks big man
 

tooey

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He was captain of the ship during our revolution. He had such a fantastic demeanour, great humour, a friendly smile but you could always tell you wouldn't want to rub him up the wrong way, he had a chin that could open up a can of spaghetti hoops.

Jol is my second favourite manager in my lifetime. I know Redknapp steered us to the CL but the whole England debacle left a bitter taste in the mouth and his relationship with the press just made us look a bit amateurish.
 

Lighty64

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Couldn’t find back the original piece but here’s some excerpts of his interview from another source....


https://talksport.com/football/535109/martin-jol-secretly-sold-porsche-daniel-levy-present/

the talk about Lasagne reminds me of that twat Scudamore making all the excuses about not being able to cancel the match (yet never cancelled all the matches when United had a bomb scare. last week I had a rest against the glass next to the main entrance, and who walks past:mad: I made a comment "Well if it isn't the one and only Peter Scudamore", but stopped myself from calling him a cheating ****.

Martin Jol was great for this club, and like @talkshowhost86 it was a complete disgrace how Levy sacked him. really hope it never comes to light that he was sacked because of the Porche. might of been better for Jol to of sold his one unless he preferred the colour
 

spursfan77

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I loved that on pitch address to us in the stadium after the final game of the season when we qualified for Europe for the first time in ages. He was so passionate.
 

mpickard2087

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it was a complete disgrace how Levy sacked him. really hope it never comes to light that he was sacked because of the Porche.

I've always understood it as multiple things snowballed at once.

The rumour was that Jol had been flirting with a couple of available jobs (Newcastle being one of them iirc?) and so damaged him quite a lot.

Meanwhile, after the UEFA Cup tie with Sevilla the clubs/their go-betweens seem to have become friendly and had ongoing chit-chat and at some point we became aware that Ramos - flavour of the month at that point after what Sevilla were doing in Europe over those past couple of years - was impressed with Spurs and might actually be interested in taking over, decided he'd be an upgrade on what we had, and made a play for him.

And then a very average start to the season tipped the balance and sealed Jol's fate, which got handled awfully and seemed to kick off a period of chaos (trophy and all!).
 

popstar7

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I'm sure there's a fair bit of truth in that but I'd rather remember him for what he achieved than for how it ended.

It's easy to forget the decade of grim, bleak nothingness he dragged us out of. And if you're not old enough to remember, count yourself lucky. We didn't finish higher than 7th for twelve years. 10th-15th was the norm. Until he arrived we hadn't played European football in any meaningful sense for fifteen years. Since then, we've never missed out.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tottenham_Hotspur_F.C._seasons

Fourteenth the season before he came in. Ninth in his first season. Then fifth, the very brink of CL and that sliding doors/what if? last day at Upton Park in his second. Fifth place again the following season.

Levy/ENIC no doubt played their part but if choking on the brink of success became the cloud that hung over us for the next decade he was the manager who made getting close enough even thinkable. Paul Robinson, Berbatov, Carrick, Bale, Jenas, Lennon, Danny Rose, MIchael Dawson all came in under his watch and he genuinely transformed the club in those three short years. We owe him a lot.
 
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ardiles

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BMJ was the architect of our revolution and brought us out of the mid table wilderness. Not sure whether he could have brought us a step further up but at least he got us playing in the EL. I will always be grateful to the big guy.

Poch took us a step further up and into the CL. Hope he doesn’t stop there.


Two great managers in the modern era that will be remembered fondly by us fans for a very long time.
 

davidmatzdorf

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I'm sure there's a fair bit of truth in that but I'd rather remember him for what he achieved than for how it ended.

It's easy to forget the decade of grim, bleak nothingness he dragged us out of. And if you're not old enough to remember, count yourself lucky. We didn't finish higher than 7th for twelve years. 10th-15th was the norm. Until he arrived we hadn't played European football in any meaningful sense for fifteen years. Since then, we've never missed out.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tottenham_Hotspur_F.C._seasons

Fourteenth the season before he came in. Ninth in his first season. Then fifth, the very brink of CL and that sliding doors/what if? last day at Upton Park in his second. Fifth place again the following season.

Levy/ENIC no doubt played their part but if choking on the brink of success became the cloud that hung over us for the next decade he was the manager who made getting close enough even thinkable. Paul Robinson, Berbatov, Carrick, Bale, Jenas, Lennon, Danny Rose, MIchael Dawson all came in under his watch and he genuinely transformed the club in those three short years. We owe him a lot.
BMJ was the architect of our revolution and brought us out of the mid table wilderness. Not sure whether he could have brought us a step further up but at least he got us playing in the EL. I will always be grateful to the big guy.

Poch took us a step further up and into the CL. Hope he doesn’t stop there.

Two great managers in the modern era that will be remembered fondly by us fans for a very long time.

Let's put Jol's achievements into context. He was the head coach who, like Pochettino, advanced the team's progress faster than anyone had expected, but he was brought in, over Levy's concerns about his lack of track-record, because Frank Arnesen insisted he was the man to improve and develop the players that Frank Arnesen was signing.

And it was Daniel Levy who, after three years of continuing his predecessors' approach (a squad of half-decent players of limited talent, decorated with a couple of superannuated ex-stars to keep the fans from revolting), realised he was never going to achieve anything that way and appointed Arnesen to recruit talented inexpensive young international players wholesale.

Arnesen asked to work with Jol. Levy appointed Jacques Santini, again to keep the fans from revolting, and kept Arnesen content by appointing Jol as an assistant coach. Fortunately, Santini threw a strop and walked. Arnesen got his way. And a year later, we were back in Europe.

It was a strategic shift in the approach of the club, not just the fortuitous appointment of a good coach.
 
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