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Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 45 19.7%
  • City Win

    Votes: 105 46.1%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 76 33.3%
  • Goal less Draw

    Votes: 2 0.9%

  • Total voters
    228
  • Poll closed .

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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If we had not defended well at all we would have lost by three goals a lot of their poor finishing was due to our defending and them not having quite the time to set themselves so they rushed it. Lloris pulled off some good saves but that wasn't luck that is what he's there for and our interceptions and blocks weren't lucky that is what our defenders are there for.

So you don't think we were lucky to come away with a draw yesterday? Have to disagree.
 

spursgirls

SC Supporter
Aug 13, 2008
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Apologies if already posted but I don't have time to check 112 pages!
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Mr Pink

SC Supporter
Aug 25, 2010
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We didn't defend well at all, they cut through us time and time again and just poor finishing and decisions by them is the reason we didn't lose by at least 3 goals. And our defending for their two goals were atrocious. just because we got a point, you don't have to turn blind to the actual performance. We got a point despite our defending - and that is down to luck.

Yeah it was all down to luck ?
 

Mr Pink

SC Supporter
Aug 25, 2010
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If we had not defended well at all we would have lost by three goals a lot of their poor finishing was due to our defending and them not having quite the time to set themselves so they rushed it. Lloris pulled off some good saves but that wasn't luck that is what he's there for and our interceptions and blocks weren't lucky that is what our defenders are there for.

Exactly. City are a very good side, one of the best ever, it's inevitable they're going to create a lot and cause any side huge problems, particularly at home.

Could we of done some things better? Absolutely.

But to say it was all down to luck is absurd.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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So you don't think we were lucky to come away with a draw yesterday? Have to disagree.
No I do think luck was on our side and we rode it but we worked bloody hard and had good enough players to get the two goals so we made our own luck to a large extent, other teams will go there and be just as lucky and still lose.
Being lucky isn't always enough and it wouldn't have been enough yesterday had we not earned it, I just don't agree that we didn't defend well at all and I suspect the City strikers may well agree with me.
 

davidmatzdorf

Front Page Gadfly
Jun 7, 2004
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The focus in the current discussion is on the defending. Let's also not forget that we finished ruthlessly from our only two realistic chances. That and the defending are not about "luck", which is a meaningless, much-equivocated word anyway. Some of the result was about "chance", which is intrinsic to football and not the same thing as "luck". The rest was down to bad finishing by Man City (bad finishing is never attributed to "luck" when we do it) and disruptive defending and mental strength by Spurs.
 

madroosta

Bazinga...
Jun 29, 2004
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507
Having read a lot of posts, commented on some myself, i'm starting to think that Eriksen, whilst being our playmaker, is the rot in the team at the moment because no player in the team knows what is going on with him. I know in my footballing days if a player looked like they had lost their way in the team and were likely to jump ship he was almost excluded even if on the pitch. That could very well be the mental situation in the Spurs camp at the moment. Pull Eriksen out until the window shuts. Show strength and solidarity amongst the , dare i say it but...…….remainers, let him sweat it out. He is truly an architect but his head has been turned. Possibly by GLC turning up, who i personally think will be better than CE , maybe not at this club but will without a doubt be a better player, again IMHO, we are no longer a team of players on the shoulders of giants. We are s a whole.....GIANTS, something we have wanted for years. 10 years ago we were mediocrity, mid-table consistently.
Just to allow the non- players insight in to what goes on, you, as a player, have instructions. You can be told that to improve your performance you cannot cross the half-way line or you can only have 2 touches on the ball. You have to make 20 passes before you can shoot. It's something that does happen. Will continue to happen and will ALWAYS happen.
As a former midfielder I would participate in such schedules during a game but then, as my idol was Gazza, I'd go rogue as i could dribble, take players on and beat them with proper silky skills. Managers hated that because it was insubordination as apposed to great skill by a player, who at that time his confidence wasn't knocked, could change a game very much like the season of our '91 cup final win with the player of the run being told you can't play that way. Ysteyear was different, managers let players go rogue, nowadays, it's about control, from top to bottom. As fans we won't be told this. We are supposed to see only the glory on the pitch. It runs much deeper than that. They may be players but they are also people. yes they set themselves up for ridicule and mockery by being in this industry but equally they are praised when audacious stuff pays off along with the financial rewar4ds they receive due to it being a very short career.. I'm guilty of that far too often to mock but my mockery is normally through inability on the ball instead of a wayward pass. Lack of control rather than losing out on a header. Have faith in our team people, have faith in our manager. Look where we were at the end of the season and what we'd achieved.
@mat
Having read a lot of posts, commented on some myself, i'm starting to think that Eriksen, whilst being our playmaker, is the rot in the team at the moment because no player in the team knows what is going on with him. I know in my footballing days if a player looked like they had lost their way in the team and were likely to jump ship he was almost excluded even if on the pitch. That could very well be the mental situation in the Spurs camp at the moment. Pull Eriksen out until the window shuts. Show strength and solidarity amongst the , dare i say it but...…….remainers, let him sweat it out. He is truly an architect but his head has been turned. Possibly by GLC turning up, who i personally think will be better than CE , maybe not at this club but will without a doubt be a better player, again IMHO, we are no longer a team of players on the shoulders of giants. We are s a whole.....GIANTS, something we have wanted for years. 10 years ago we were mediocrity, mid-table consistently.
Just to allow the non- players insight in to what goes on, you, as a player, have instructions. You can be told that to improve your performance you cannot cross the half-way line or you can only have 2 touches on the ball. You have to make 20 passes before you can shoot. It's something that does happen. Will continue to happen and will ALWAYS happen.
As a former midfielder I would participate in such schedules during a game but then, as my idol was Gazza, I'd go rogue as i could dribble, take players on and beat them with proper silky skills. Managers hated that because it was insubordination as apposed to great skill by a player, who at that time his confidence wasn't knocked, could change a game very much like the season of our '91 cup final win with the player of the run being told you can't play that way. Ysteyear was different, managers let players go rogue, nowadays, it's about control, from top to bottom. As fans we won't be told this. We are supposed to see only the glory on the pitch. It runs much deeper than that. They may be players but they are also people. yes they set themselves up for ridicule and mockery by being in this industry but equally they are praised when audacious stuff pays off along with the financial rewar4ds they receive due to it being a very short career.. I'm guilty of that far too often to mock but my mockery is normally through inability on the ball instead of a wayward pass. Lack of control rather than losing out on a header. Have faith in our team people, have faith in our manager. Look where we were at the end of the season and what we'd achieved.
@davidmatzdorf care to weigh in here if you disagree. All are entitled to their opinion and i'm open to difference of opinion.
 

Jenko

Well-Known Member
Mar 18, 2004
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Madness. You'd rather not get a point today or get to the CL final, because you'd rather be cheated out of the correct results in the name of footballing drama?

Fuck that. We've been getting screwed over for decades, my whole life I've been watching us get mugged off and always after the big games we spend our time debating how fucked over we've been, how thing's might've been different if only the ref or linesman had made the right call etc.

Not once do I remember us getting the benefit of the dramatic incorrect call, winning a trophy with no justification or sniggering at scraping a result we shouldn't have had in the big games. The only sides who have ever benefitted from that have been the big red and blue clubs and I'm well and truly fed up of watching them win everything year after year, so often at the cheated/undeserved expense of others through dodgy decisions and questionable officials.

Now we're finally starting to see some justice done for our team and I ABSOLUTELY FUCKING LOVE IT.

Long live VAR!

All hail Bobbins for that post. Poetry.
 

madroosta

Bazinga...
Jun 29, 2004
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We didn't defend well at all, they cut through us time and time again and just poor finishing and decisions by them is the reason we didn't lose by at least 3 goals. And our defending for their two goals were atrocious. just because we got a point, you don't have to turn blind to the actual performance. We got a point despite our defending - and that is down to luck.
Sanchez, Rose, Toby and KP all got stuck in at the times where it was achievable to reach the ball given their starting positions when the attacks happened. Could KWP have got to the header that Captain half-talent Scored? yes of course but his starting position was marred by citys box movement. KWP is having to learn very quickly. Cutting through is not the same as scoring. Look at many games we had last season where we wre getting 15 - 20 shots on goal. It wasn't poor defending that allowed us those stats, it was actually diligent defending by an inferior opposition. Yesterday that's exactly what we were but came out of it with a point. I'll take that point over a point at Burnley, Bounemouth and Brighton.
 

SlotBadger

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Jul 24, 2013
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Clinton Morrison is the black fella, ex pro and Spurs fan.
The gobby twat dancing at the beginning is an Arsenal fan who actually cried and put it on the internet when Arsenal didn't buy the players he wanted a few seasons ago...a grown fucking man.
He also says, and I believe this to be verbatim, “Tottenham have done and bottled it again.”

Done. And bottled.
 

TwanYid

Well-Known Member
Aug 1, 2013
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I have not read the match thread but have a question
Did we see var level out the mistakes today ?
Did not give pen to city (lamela)
Even out with aguero goal looking glaringly offside and everyone pretending they couldn't see it ?

Or do I not understand offside and need very strong glasses ?

Sorry if this has been done to death.

Mate I thought the SAME THING about the Aguero goal!!! I said to my son “WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THE FACT THAT HE IS OFFSIDE?!?” They didn’t do the yellow-line-thingy, almost as if they were trying to cover it up! I don’t think it’s a conspiracy but wow- you would at LEAST reckon they would want to check it out! We frame-by-frame’d I and he was indeed offside!
 

scat1620

L'espion mal fait
May 11, 2008
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The focus in the current discussion is on the defending. Let's also not forget that we finished ruthlessly from our only two realistic chances. That and the defending are not about "luck", which is a meaningless, much-equivocated word anyway. Some of the result was about "chance", which is intrinsic to football and not the same thing as "luck". The rest was down to bad finishing by Man City (bad finishing is never attributed to "luck" when we do it) and disruptive defending and mental strength by Spurs.
We were pretty lucky that the VAR team didn't give a penalty against Lamela in the first half. I can't think of another more suitable word to use: soz.
 

madroosta

Bazinga...
Jun 29, 2004
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Poch said after the game that the window still being open is effecting us. Guess he means players don’t have their mind on it. If that’s the case, don’t select them then!
i said this about Eriksen, I for one think it's affecting other players in the balance.
 

madroosta

Bazinga...
Jun 29, 2004
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But Poch’s implying there’s more than one which is the worry.
totally agree, with Eriksen and Rose (slight difference the latters performance which has been exceptional) seemingly unknowing on their future it leaves us unbalanced.
 

sebo_sek

Well-Known Member
Jun 2, 2005
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I posted on Tweeter that we only got lucky because we put ourselves in a position where luck could have played a part.
 

scat1620

L'espion mal fait
May 11, 2008
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It's kinda funny seeing opposition fans get the rug pulled out from under them, but on a grumpy old man tack that would really live better in the What Is Grinding Your Gears? thread, I am really not a fan of these people who film themselves and their reactions whilst watching a live football game.

It's a similar kind of annoyance to my irritation at people filming on their phones at gigs (put the fucker away and just take in the experience happening right now in front of you!), but this filming one's self at football matches for vlogs/who-the-fuck-knows-what-else is somehow even worse because there's an element of narcissism in play.

Jumpers for goalposts, and all that malarkey... :grumpy::grumpy::grumpy:
 
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werty

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Aug 8, 2005
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We were pretty lucky that the VAR team didn't give a penalty against Lamela in the first half. I can't think of another more suitable word to use: soz.
Lamela's shot deflecting into Kane's path last week was lucky too. I think it's naive to think there isn't luck involved in every game.
 
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