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Led's Zeppelin

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I'd rather have Lloris than any other Premier League goalkeeper for the style and system we play.

If he makes more mistakes, and I'm not convinced he does, it's because he is a better player who plays far more bravely and imaginatively and doesn't play it safe so as to avoid personal mistakes. (Pat Jennings made more mistakes than his contemporaries because he was a better, more pro-active player and protected his defence better.)

I believe we'd concede more goals and be less threatening ourselves with a more conservative, traditional keeper.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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Are you thick or what? I still have the same opinion I just over egged it a bit because I was a bit drunk and pumped up just after the match.
So you think Lloris is nowhere near DDG or Courtois and worse than Cech and Schmeichel?
 

mpickard2087

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Jun 13, 2008
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Let's be honest, passing out from the back (which I'm fine with) and kicking in general doesn't look like it comes naturally to Lloris and technically it is a bit shaky. He does quite often under or over hit them and for me the worst thing he (or any other player does) is when they have a second or two of indecision and then decide to play a pass anyway. To beat the press you have to play speedily at a minimum of touches.

He isn't disastrous though, and I think the point should be made that he stays pretty calm and sticks to what is asked of him rather than turning into a nervous wreck after a poor clearance/pass or two. This 'mental strength' sees him getting the job done.

Most weeks it isn't going to be enough of an issue, as most teams don't press extremely high and as intelligently (such as being able to predict a couple of passes ahead and press in anticipation of it) as City do at times. There will be enough time/space for a team mate to make good of any dodgy pass. It is also not just him, against well drilled Pressing opposition we have to keep striving to improve as a unit if we are to play out from the back - this type of team we still find most pesky and struggle to deal with.
 

Japhet

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Let's be honest, passing out from the back (which I'm fine with) and kicking in general doesn't look like it comes naturally to Lloris and technically it is a bit shaky. He does quite often under or over hit them and for me the worst thing he (or any other player does) is when they have a second or two of indecision and then decide to play a pass anyway. To beat the press you have to play speedily at a minimum of touches.

He isn't disastrous though, and I think the point should be made that he stays pretty calm and sticks to what is asked of him rather than turning into a nervous wreck after a poor clearance/pass or two. This 'mental strength' sees him getting the job done.

Most weeks it isn't going to be enough of an issue, as most teams don't press extremely high and as intelligently (such as being able to predict a couple of passes ahead and press in anticipation of it) as City do at times. There will be enough time/space for a team mate to make good of any dodgy pass. It is also not just him, against well drilled Pressing opposition we have to keep striving to improve as a unit if we are to play out from the back - this type of team we still find most pesky and struggle to deal with.


I think we need to mix it up a bit, especially if we are being pressed. It's too easy to play against when we play out from the back every single time Lloris gets his hands on the ball. Our front 4 were starved of ball for the entire first half v Man City. What harm would the occasional long clearance have done? We might even have had a chance to press their notoriously flakey back line.
 

dondo

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Exactly, you don't. So don't get all defensive over people reacting to what was a frankly ridiculous comment.


I not defensive at all I just don't like responding to the same questions over and over to posters who haven't read the whole thread and who go back and neg rep every post I have made
 

Led's Zeppelin

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I didn't see the game last night.

How was Vorm in terms of distribution? Did we do the Hugo thing of giving the ball to the deepest player so as to pull the opposition towards us to open them up a bit?
 

SlotBadger

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I didn't see the game last night.

How was Vorm in terms of distribution? Did we do the Hugo thing of giving the ball to the deepest player so as to pull the opposition towards us to open them up a bit?
Yes, only he'd overhit the pass and the ball would go out for a throw. (y)
 

yido_number1

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Jun 8, 2004
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I didn't see the game last night.

How was Vorm in terms of distribution? Did we do the Hugo thing of giving the ball to the deepest player so as to pull the opposition towards us to open them up a bit?

aside from one save I cant remember him touching the ball
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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Once again Hugo's kicking was really bad tonight. He consistently puts our players in bad situations, putting them under pressure and basically handing the opposition the ball on a plate in many circumstances, it forces our full backs into mistakes a lot of the time.

He's been doing this season after season after season. Why hasn't this been addressed by the goal keeping coaches, or in the way we play out from the back?

It often puts us under pressure at times in the match when really we need to be calming things down and getting control of the game.

Hugo is a great shot stopper, but this really is starting to make me question his all round ability, and if I 100% trust him at the back.
 

dricha1

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Once again Hugo's kicking was really bad tonight. He consistently puts our players in bad situations, putting them under pressure and basically handing the opposition the ball on a plate in many circumstances, it forces our full backs into mistakes a lot of the time.

He's been doing this season after season after season. Why hasn't this been addressed by the goal keeping coaches, or in the way we play out from the back?

It often puts us under pressure at times in the match when really we need to be calming things down and getting control of the game.

Hugo is a great shot stopper, but this really is starting to make me question his all round ability, and if I 100% trust him at the back.

It's a tactic I think, and no, I don't like it either. I think the idea is to draw the opposition out, the problem is our movement is so poor and we lack the pace to exploit the space created. Several times tonight we'd (luckily) worked our way out of trouble passed to a Dembele/Sissoko or Alli and they either took extra touches or dawdled on the ball instead of driving into the open spaces.

It's a tactic that's clearly not working at the moment.
 

kaz Hirai

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Real Madrid have once again set their sights on signing Tottenham’s Hugo Lloris, according to reports in France.

Spurs’ number one has been a target for the Spanish giants before, but it appeared Madrid had preferred both Manchester United’s David De Gea and Chelsea’s Thibaut Courtois.



And while it was thought Real has dropped their interest, French newspaper L’Equipe suggest that Lloris is once again a top target for the La Liga side ahead of the summer transfer window.

Madrid are said to believe that Tottenham’s goalkeeper is the most attainable target out of the three, but the deal is far from certain after Lloris signed a new five-year £100,000-a-week contract extension at Spurs in June last year.

The France international has been a key member of the Tottenham squad in recent years, helping the north London side finish 3rd in the Premier League last year, their highest ever finish.

Both Lloris and his defence conceded a league-low 35 goals last season, which has continued this season too, letting just 18 past them.

The 30-year-old was rewarded for his fine form, being named the Goalkeeper of the Year at the 2017 London Football Awards.

He beat Chelsea stopper Thibaut Courtois to the prestigious award, while Darren Randolph, Jordan Archer and Alex Smithies were also considered for this prize.
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Full of top quotes as usual from Madrid, Hugo and his agent:rolleyes:
 

sunnydelight786

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Jan 7, 2007
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If we fail to win a trophy again this season I would not begrudge him a move to the biggest club in the world, club captain or not. 5 years of good service and no trophies could you blame him for wanting to leave? I trust Levy to get a decent wedge for him and maybe go for someone like Butland, he looks the real deal out of all the young English keepers.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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If we fail to win a trophy again this season I would not begrudge him a move to the biggest club in the world, club captain or not. 5 years of good service and no trophies could you blame him for wanting to leave? I trust Levy to get a decent wedge for him and maybe go for someone like Butland, he looks the real deal out of all the young English keepers.
Or Pickford - especially when Sunderland go down.
 

The Scarecrow

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If we fail to win a trophy again this season I would not begrudge him a move to the biggest club in the world, club captain or not. 5 years of good service and no trophies could you blame him for wanting to leave? I trust Levy to get a decent wedge for him and maybe go for someone like Butland, he looks the real deal out of all the young English keepers.
It would break my heart, but he truly deserves to win something.
 
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