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Jan 28, 2011
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It's standard practice these days to look back a few years to when we weren't that good and call out ex-players for their deficiencies, whether real or perceived, but I'd like to redress the balance.

So this thread is basically an opportunity for any of you to find something positive to say about any player from the past who generally gets a bit of a slagging and tell us why you love them.

And I'm going to kick off in praise of Didier Zokora.

Zokora got a lot of stick for not being Carrick, but that wasn't his fault. Nor was it his fault that he played under three different managers in three years and was played in CM, at CB, at RB because the squad was so unbalanced. He never complained and generally gave his all. And I also love Didier Zokora because

1) He used to stand on the half-way line looking away when we had a penalty and his smile as the crowd roared the goal was one of the most beautiful things in football.

2) He got sent off for protecting a 19-year-old Aaron Lennon in a fight when we played Middlesbrough (and somehow managed to get the Boro' player sent off too).

3) He was renowned for not being able to score for us in a game, yet still had the balls to take a (successful) penalty in a shoot-out against PSV.

And I know he took that dive against Portsmouth but, for me, it was such a blatantly rubbish attempt at a dive that, at one level, you sensed that he'd never tried to do it before and probably wouldn't again. A footballing Cameron Bancroft, if you will. And if you somehow doubt that Zokora genuinely lacked subtlety when it came to cheating, then here's the 'disguised foul' he inflicted on Emre in response to a previous racist comment by the latter. Subtle it's not and it's another reason why I love Didier.




Anyway. Enough Zokora. Who else do you think deserves to have their reputation salvaged and why? It doesn't have to be war and peace. It might just be one great bit of play you remember by Gilberto or that Paolo Tramezzani once gave his seat up on the bus for your aged auntie but, whatever, let's hear some good things about otherwise maligned players.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Loved Zokora. He had the pace, and decent ball control, to do a 360 spin then charge 30 yards up the pitch, completely turning the opposition, winning us the momentum, and the ability, unerringly, to find an opponent with his final pass.

Someone used to have, in their sig, a video of an Arsenal player being faced down in midfield by a Spurs CM, turning, running away and being chased down and caught by our player. Was that Zoks?
 

scat1620

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Can't think of a more worthy subject of this thread than Gary Doherty. Tried his fucking heart out every time he was on the pitch for us, despite often being played out of position (he was always a centre-back, and never anything other than an emergency centre-forward), and scored against the scum.

Definitely a player who doesn't deserve the piss-taking he continues to get from our fans even to the present day.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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My choice would be Jenas. He could have been Alli today. A fantastic mover off the ball, decent enough on it, but didn't want to run the game. He was happy to get stuck in and win possesion for us, but then wanted to ghost up the pitch and not touch the ball until he had a shot at goal. He'd fit our current side better than he did in his time.
 

The Doc

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Can't think of a more worthy subject of this thread than Gary Doherty. Tried his fucking heart out every time he was on the pitch for us, despite often being played out of position (he was always a centre-back, and never anything other than an emergency centre-forward), and scored against the scum.

Definitely a player who doesn't deserve the piss-taking he continues to get from our fans even to the present day.

Aw. Thanks Dad.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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Loved Zokora. He had the pace, and decent ball control, to do a 360 spin then charge 30 yards up the pitch, completely turning the opposition, winning us the momentum, and the ability, unerringly, to find an opponent with his final pass.

Someone used to have, in their sig, a video of an Arsenal player being faced down in midfield by a Spurs CM, turning, running away and being chased down and caught by our player. Was that Zoks?
Sandro I think.

What a man.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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My choice would be Jenas. He could have been Alli today. A fantastic mover off the ball, decent enough on it, but didn't want to run the game. He was happy to get stuck in and win possesion for us, but then wanted to ghost up the pitch and not touch the ball until he had a shot at goal. He'd fit our current side better than he did in his time.
Pochettino would have worked wonders with Jenas.
 

Gassin's finest

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I very rarely hear/read many people mention David Howells. But in amongst superstars like Gazza, Lineker, Klinsmann etc, or the dross like Dozzell, Edinburgh or Samways, Howells was ever present, always worked his balls off, and was a solid box to box midfielder for us for the best part of a decade.

An early Spurs hero of mine. Along with Paul Allen, who'll I'll extol later when I have more time.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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I very rarely hear/read many people mention David Howells. But in amongst superstars like Gazza, Lineker, Klinsmann etc, or the dross like Dozzell, Edinburgh or Samways, Howells was ever present, always worked his balls off, and was a solid box to box midfielder for us for the best part of a decade.

An early Spurs hero of mine. Along with Paul Allen, who'll I'll extol later when I have more time.

Interesting that Samways and Edinburgh won trophies with Spurs, and yet some people still say that trophies are the only true sign of success.

I agree about David Howells and Paul Allen. Not quite top tier of course, but good footballers, and Allen on his day was a genuine match-winner.
 
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Interesting that Samways and Edinburgh won trophies with Spurs, and yet some people still say that trophies are the only true sign of success.

I agree about David Howells and Paul Allen. Not quite top tier of course, but good footballers, and Allen on his day was a genuine match-winner.

People give Edinburgh a hard time, but if more people had taken a swing at Robbie Savage over the years, then the world would be a better place, especially if they'd actually connected.

And, while we're on the subject of the League Cup Final, Ramon Vega's taken some grief in his time, but some appreciation please for his last-ditch tackle in that game...

 

mckenz

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Loved Zokora. He had the pace, and decent ball control, to do a 360 spin then charge 30 yards up the pitch, completely turning the opposition, winning us the momentum, and the ability, unerringly, to find an opponent with his final pass.

Someone used to have, in their sig, a video of an Arsenal player being faced down in midfield by a Spurs CM, turning, running away and being chased down and caught by our player. Was that Zoks?


i thought that was Wnston Palacios....could be wrong


Both him and Sandro were great before injuries messed them up
 
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