How much more will Jenas progress?

[DC_Boy]

JJ does at times lack self-confidence and did those morons who got on his back help that - did they ***** -

the boo boys - spiritual heirs to the ones who helped drive Armstrong & Venables out of the club as players haven't quite succeeded with Lee & JJ yet - but they've done their ugly best

I'm afraid they're now sharpening their vocal chords for Bent - tragic - how those people depress me

 

[oohaahedgar]

he COULD possibly become nearly as good as Stevie G.

 

[bubble07]

this season alone he could and infact should have scored atleast 6 more goals. Only then would people on here recognise his worth. The only aspect he needs to work on is his composure infront of goal. In the summer all we really need is to sign a world class goalkeeper and a defensive midifelder who can really get the best out of Jenas. Step up Mr Xavi Alonso. Jenas has everything except ccomposure infront of goal which is the real major noticeable difference between him and fat frank who just scored his 101st goal yesterday

 

[HildoSpur]

He's a top player already and has the potential to get better. Very good news for the club!

 

[EmperorKabir]

He's the kind of player that will imrpove by being forced to stay a few extra hours doing more training and tactics etc.

Perhaps after the squad weight loss program is totally done, we may notice a new level of JJ.

 

[diegooners]

He's been playing well without doubt. GL said he has everything, and strangely enough I would tend to agree with him aside from one thing: Jenas has no concentration and no onfield intelligence. Ramos appears to be waking him, as he did used to be a dosy fucker (note goal that milner scored against us at barcodes for example) which is very good news. But he plays like an airhead. He has acknowleged himself that he needs to think about which runs to make, and if he can sort this out he could be a top class centre mid.

 

[tommo84]

Jenas has everything except ccomposure infront of goal which is the real major noticeable difference between him and fat frank who just scored his 101st goal yesterday

If Jenas had anything like the same sort of luck Fat Lumpard has then JJ would have scored those 6 other goals you refer to and would prob have scored a dozen more via lucky deflections! And possible even scored a goal which hit one of his own players on the way in and still managed to claim it as his own.

I hate Lampard

 

[striebs]

Carrick exudes a toughness and arrogance that Jenas doesn't yet .

He needs to impose himself on every game and inspire players around him .

 

[don1]

just on the carling web site and jenas is top player for the tournament
get down and give him a vote:up:
http://www.carlingcup.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/0,,11995,00.html

 

[Blotto]

I think Jenas can rise to the top, he has the work ethic and all the materials required to become a great player. Under Juande's guidance the future for Jenas looks bright; I think that what appeared to be a lack of on-pitch intelligence was really more down to the fact that he never had a clear position in the side--no one could decide what they wanted from him, so he was often asked to do many things at once whereas others were given clear roles, this seems to be changing under Ramos and certainly school is in session and Jenas is taking notes. I think he'll go far.

 

[Adamspurs]

just on the carling web site and jenas is top player for the tournament
get down and give him a vote:up:
http://www.carlingcup.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/0,,11995,00.html

He's winning by quite a bit aswell

 

[DC_Boy]

I just voted - well done JJ for getting so many votes - hope he wins that as well as getting a winners medal on Sunday

It's true JJ sometimes lacks composure in front of goal after his runs - not always of course - he scored a brilliant one - I think it was Wigan at home -dummied the defence/keeper really well

somtimes we have to remember even with his engine he'll be a bit knackered after making the run -

Lampard doesn't usually score after making those type of runs reither - cos he rarely makes them - it's completely unfair to expect JJ to be Lampard (a goalscoring phenomenon for a mid player) or Stevie G (simply a phenomenon)

JJ is JJ - he has improved - he may improve more yet we hope - but he's already been our best CM for well over a year now - more like 2 - and it's great he's now getting some of the praise he deserves - and none of the abuse that he never deserved in the first place

 

[General Levy]

Carrick exudes a toughness and arrogance that Jenas doesn't yet .

He needs to impose himself on every game and inspire players around him .

Hard to do when you don't have a DCM playing alongside you.

If we get the correct player to play alongside JJ, he will develop into something very, very special.

What Gerrard, Fabregas and Lumpofshit don't have is pace, and JJ has it in abundance. He may not be as good as Fabregas at passing and off the ball movement, he may not be as good as Gerrard at long range passing, he also may not be as good as fat frank is at shooting, but he is very good at everything.

 

[Grinner]

No, Jenas will never be a Gascoigne, but he is showing signs of fulfilling his potential as a vey effective all-round midfielder, and is very unlikely to self-destruct in true Gazza style.

Apart from the 'Ramos' influence, I think something else that may have helped him mature very quickly and improve his consistency recently is becoming a father. It can really help to focus one's mind!

 

[batigol]

He has everything. Sometimes when I watch him it seems like he is short of confidence as he doesn't dribble enough. He needs to drive more and take people on; I believe he will once we purchase a holding player.

He has everything? I would say Kaka has everything. Maybe Gerrard. Jenas? Don't get me wrong, I am not a massive boo-boy and I do acknowledge his potential and current improvement but everything is just too far-fetch.

Like some has said, he just don't possess the creativity. He has great engine, movement but he does not have a great range of passing nor superb dribbling ability. Even Scholes have more in his pocket than him. I hope he can improve further and may have the chance to reach their level but I am also realistic in knowing that he is nowhere near their level at the moment. The fact that Ramos had to limit his role to utilise his strengths better clearly illustrates this fact.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

He has everything? I would say Kaka has everything. Maybe Gerrard. Jenas? Don't get me wrong, I am not a massive boo-boy and I do acknowledge his potential and current improvement but everything is just too far-fetch.

Like some has said, he just don't possess the creativity. He has great engine, movement but he does not have a great range of passing nor superb dribbling ability. Even Scholes have more in his pocket than him. I hope he can improve further and may have the chance to reach their level but I am also realistic in knowing that he is nowhere near their level at the moment. The fact that Ramos had to limit his role to utilise his strengths better clearly illustrates this fact.

you are right about Kaka, but for me, Jenas isn't behind Gerrard, it isn't jock.

before Ramos arrival and Jenas recent improvement, i told my friend about Jenas isn't behind Fabregas when Sesc scored a load of goals at the start of the season. I told him the difference between the two, Arsenal have very good and better manager ( MJ was in charge ) and they are using 4/5/1 system which made him free to attack and score goals ( as another 2 CM helping him to dominate the middle and specialist DM in Flamini ) .

Ramos arrived and quickly changed Jenas picture, not scoring too much but he is still doing very well despite we are one of the fewest teams are sticking with 4/4/2 all time and that's could effect in his scoring record, he isn't 9.5 as Elano or Farbregas or Gerrard or Lampard as some people think, Jenas is doing Natural CM job ( Defending & Attacking in one time ) and is doing very well which earned him starting place in first game for England under World Class coach [ Cappello ]. Other thing, can you see Gerrard doing well with his top 4 club when they are using 4/4/2 ??? i can remember him scoring some goals but Liverpool fans still not impressed with his 90min performance despite being playing alongside Mascerano ( and Alonso ) not likes TT, Zokora, Huddlestone & Boateng as JJ do.

for me, i would pick Jenas over Gerrard after both players seen playing under very good managers and more equal between their teams than before. The only clear things you can see it better in Gerrard his better right foot in set-peices, shooting from distance, and his leadership but he isn't aggrssive, flair, skillfull and effective as Jenas. Wenger and Ferguson both tried to sign him before us, only their financial problems and our determination in negotations helped us to get him ( Eriksson recomendation for Levy according to reports ) .

How many times England fans booed
Gerrard ? in the same time Lampard was better scorer ! why this partnership in CM didn't work ? you could answer now.

Gerrard isn't intelligence.

 

[Defsta]

He just gets more consistent when he's maturing more, but technically he's fully progressed.

 

[AlanUB]

Spot On Spurs Q8. Manager's approach towards the game and the formation used plays crucial role in wat JJ can actually do on the pitch. For me, he's moving towards greater heights under the leadership of JR. Next season, he'll definitely be a player to watch.

 

[guiltyparty]

Not sure why there's this constant assumption that you have to think Jenas is either amazing or you're a boo-boy. There's a hell of a lot of grey area between the two.

For my part, I think he's a decent player who's flying at the mo. He's clearly never been 'shit', so anyone asking for him out was obviously deluded. But I think people are over-hyping him a bit at the mo.

He's playing well, well done that man. And he's been rewarded with an England call-up, well deserved, etc. Now let's see him keep it up consistently for a season or two, only then will he become our Gerrard or Lampard.

 

[Kendall]

Gerrard has been fucking shit all year