Has Sissoko had a fair go of it at Spurs?

[Tucker]

This may seem to be an obvious answer for a lot of people. Sissoko is our joint record signing, and hasn't made anywhere near the impact that one would hope for a £30 million pound player.

However, has he had a fair shot?

Fans often talk about how difficult it is to adapt to Pochettino's style of play, and that it's essential that players get a good pre season, and are given a season to integrate into the team.

Yet we have all (including myself) seemed to have written this guy off after a handful of starts and subs appearances.

People aren't just writing the guy off either, many seem desperate to get rid of him, even though we will likely lose a lot of money on the transfer.

He hasn't been disruptive to the squad (like Adebayor or Kaboul for example) and usually when a player doesn't pull his weight, Poch freezes them out completely. So he must have been putting him on the bench for a reason.

So even though he's been dross, should we all just be patient and give the guy a chance?

 

[Shadydan]

He's not good enough and he's not young enough for us to have patience with him, we need to sell whilst his stock is still relitavely high because we'd risk keeping a player in the squad on high wages and and decreasing value.

 

[scat1620]

Yep, he had a fair chance for a couple of years while he was being average schmaverage at Newcastle, and we should never have even contemplated bringing him to Tottenham on the basis of what we knew - KNEW - he was capable of. Get rid. Yesterday.

 

[Tottenham_God]

Sell him to Besiktas for 17.5 million. Count our losses.

 

[HildoSpur]

It's been a disaster for all involved. He needs to move on, we need to move him on. Let's get on with it.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

For the money he cost, he's reminds me of a polo player without a horse.

 

[Indacupfortottenham]

No, but he hast warranted more game time with the performances he's put in, hope we sell him this window.

 

[dontcallme]

This is the classic problem that occurs when making an expensive signing of a player in his prime.

When buying such a player fans are expecting an immediate impact. An experienced player already settled in the league should have less of a settling in period to a younger player or player from abroad.

Many of us, myself included, were bemused by the signing. After a couple of seasons in the Prem it seemed quite clear he wasn't of the quality required.

Everything about the signing just pointed to failure.

In interviews Sissoko comes across quite well. He has acknowledged that he hasn't performed well enough to earn more game time. He has also voiced the difficulty in adapting to Poch style and required levels of fitness but has said he wants to make a success of it.

We have just finished 2nd and there will be a determination to go one better next season. I am not sure we are in a position to give Sissoko more of a chance. We have more talented players more suited to the club. Not sure Sissoko's premium level is good enough to warrant too much babying.

 

[Tucker]

Playing devils advocate here really with this thread, but one thing that strikes me as odd, is that people keep saying he's terrible, but expect us to be able to shift him on for a decent amount.

That's kind of baffling.

Another thing is people crying for Janssen, and Nkoudou to get another season to "adapt" but Sissoko seems to have somehow earned the Villain of the week scapegoat tag. Like Adebayor before him, there seems to be a lot of hate directed at him.

Yet he's not been disruptive like Ade was.

 

[Gb160]

Playing devils advocate here really with this thread, but one thing that strikes me as odd, is that people keep saying he's terrible, but expect us to be able to shift him on for a decent amount.

That's kind of baffling.

Another thing is people crying for Janssen, and Nkoudou to get another season to "adapt" but Sissoko seems to have somehow earned the Villain of the week scapegoat tag. Like Adebayor before him, there seems to be a lot of hate directed at him.

Yet he's not been disruptive like Ade was.

Price tag is the thing that seems to have irked most people, if we'd picked him up for 10m i doubt he'd get anywhere near the shit he currently gets.
Amazing the hate he gets really, especially as you say, he's not been disruptive at all.

 

[bomberH]

I'm of the opinion he hasn't had a fair shot. In fact, he hasn't had any frickin' shot of note.

I hate slagging off a Spurs player but I've been less impressed with him than almost any other. Maybe the price tag has something to do with it, but honestly, even if he was a free transfer I still would've been disappointed with his contribution. His control is genuinely terrible.

He seems nice enough and gets behind the team on matchdays via twitter but I think he'll forever be one of those players who always performs better for his country than he does for his club. Would absolutely love to be proved wrong though.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I voted "no". He had more than a fair shot taking into account his blatant lack of ability.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Playing devils advocate here really with this thread, but one thing that strikes me as odd, is that people keep saying he's terrible, but expect us to be able to shift him on for a decent amount.

That's kind of baffling.

Another thing is people crying for Janssen, and Nkoudou to get another season to "adapt" but Sissoko seems to have somehow earned the Villain of the week scapegoat tag. Like Adebayor before him, there seems to be a lot of hate directed at him.

Yet he's not been disruptive like Ade was.

Agree on the fact that he's not been disruptive, but that's hardly a good enough reason to give someone another chance.

As for the comparison with Janssen and N'Koudou, both of those players are young players in their first seasons out of their home countries. Sissoko is an experienced player with plenty of playing time in this country under his belt, and experience at the top level with France. That's why more of is expected of him and rightly so.

I agree that the hate he gets is OTT, and I'm sure that's mostly due to the price tag, but he's had his chances and been awful. Time to move him on.

 

[HildoSpur]

Price tag is the thing that seems to have irked most people, if we'd picked him up for 10m i doubt he'd get anywhere near the shit he currently gets.
Amazing the hate he gets really, especially as you say, he's not been disruptive at all.

The price tag didnt help but most people had seen him generally stink up the league in a Newcastle shirt for years and this is why I and others were concerned about the signing. This would have been the case if we paid £15 million for him. To pay £30 million for him was absolutely madness and we all knew it.

 

[Shadydan]

Playing devils advocate here really with this thread, but one thing that strikes me as odd, is that people keep saying he's terrible, but expect us to be able to shift him on for a decent amount.

That's kind of baffling.

Another thing is people crying for Janssen, and Nkoudou to get another season to "adapt" but Sissoko seems to have somehow earned the Villain of the week scapegoat tag. Like Adebayor before him, there seems to be a lot of hate directed at him.

Yet he's not been disruptive like Ade was.

The difference is that Nkoudou and Janssen have:

a) Both shown signs of some sort of progression to show some sort of potential.
b) Time on they sides as they're still young.

I don't know why not being disruptive earns him brownie points either like it's meant to make a case for him, well done I guess lol

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Playing devils advocate here really with this thread, but one thing that strikes me as odd, is that people keep saying he's terrible, but expect us to be able to shift him on for a decent amount.

That's kind of baffling.

Another thing is people crying for Janssen, and Nkoudou to get another season to "adapt" but Sissoko seems to have somehow earned the Villain of the week scapegoat tag. Like Adebayor before him, there seems to be a lot of hate directed at him.

Yet he's not been disruptive like Ade was.

This is at best the worst attempt at playing "devils advocate" I've seen on SC. But kudos to you for at least not being as disruptive as Adebayor was.

 

[scat1620]

Playing devils advocate here really with this thread, but one thing that strikes me as odd, is that people keep saying he's terrible, but expect us to be able to shift him on for a decent amount.

That's kind of baffling.

I'd genuinely let him go for free. We set fire to his transfer fee the minute he put pen to paper with us.

 

[SpaggyBoy]

I remember some very similar threads about Lamela. Poch gave the guy a chance and he rewarded us with some sterling performances.

Some people have very short memories....

 

[TheChosenOne]

Most expensive stocking filler in the world.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I remember some very similar threads about Lamela. Poch gave the guy a chance and he rewarded us with some sterling performances.

Some people have very short memories....

No, some people think that any given example in the pas to justify their view is the correct example to bring up. What about Fazio? Stambouli? N'Jie? How do those examples fit into your "past is the only predictor"-scheme?