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spud

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Sep 2, 2003
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Against Sunderland, the ref blew for a free kick after the Goons Bacari Sagna narrowly failed to wrestle Sunderland's Altidore to the ground. Neither Altidore nor Sagna heard the whistle, and when Altidore carried on and scored the goal was not allowed. It was a terrible decision by the ref, who blew a second too quickly when allowing the advantage would've been easy to do.

What I don't understand is that, having given the free kick, the ref did not send off Sagna. He was the last defender and clearly denied Altidore a goalscoring opportunity. He should have had a red card and the goons would have been a man down with only a one goal lead and a while to go in the game. Instead of which, at even strength, they went on to score again.

So the Goons not only got the benefit of a disallowed legitimate goal, they also retained eleven players when - if the free kick was given - their player had to be sent off according to the Laws of the game.

Sickening, isn't it?
 

Wick3d

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Aug 31, 2012
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Refs love to ruin games. The sooner we replace them with impartial robots, the better! :D
 

Jenko

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Mar 18, 2004
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I understand the title of this thread but I'm sure you will understand why I am not actually shocked. Same old same old this season for those jammy wanks....
 

SpursManChris

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Stupid ref. Why did he stop that play? Altidore was held back but he powered through it and not for one second did he or the ball stop progressing forward. Shouldn't refs only blow if the play stops from a tackle and the player is no longer in control of the ball? The ref should have seen clearly that play was progressing, Altidore would have scored like he did and a red card should have been shown.
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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Perhaps Wenger should rename his team to something like Sporting Woolwich.

I am ok with some physical football but that bag of shite fight tooth and claw every game and they have the audacity to moan about Stoke.
 

$hoguN

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Jul 25, 2005
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Right lads I have had enough of their luck so i've stuck Ramsey and Giroud into my Fantasy league side. Watch them bomb now.

I did this at a great cost to myself too btw, took an 8pt hit.
 

stokesy

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Dec 5, 2003
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Even worse I don't understand why if he has called it back for a free kick why did the player not get sent off for preventing a goal scoring opportunity. The ref fucked that decision up in every way possible
 

Dundalk_Spur

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Jul 17, 2008
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I expect no less from Martin Atkinson, consistently makes poor and wrong decisions, must be near PL retirement now.
 

sebcole

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Sep 1, 2009
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Well that 2 point undeserved cushion has proper fucked us for the champion league run in then come May and 1 point difference.
 

Armstrong_11

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Aug 3, 2011
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Right lads I have had enough of their luck so i've stuck Ramsey and Giroud into my Fantasy league side. Watch them bomb now.

that really isn't my choice for a "Fantasy"

nothing new with arsenal having all the luck.
 

Shadydan

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Yes, not surprised by Arsenal getting a poor referring decision in their favour, lost count the amount of times they've benefited in such circumstances.
 

nightgoat

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The ref should have seen clearly that play was progressing, Altidore would have scored like he did and a red card should have been shown.

Can't have both. Either play on and allow the goal or give the free kick and a red card. The red card would have been for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity. If he'd played on and allowed the goal then the opportunity wouldn't have been denied.
 

Shea

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Pulling the play back to award a free kick once ALtidore and broke free in the box was a scandalous decision

If the ref and done that to Man U during the Fergie era he'd probably be reffing Brentford games next week and for the rest of his career

Shockingly bad
 

not_tenth-again

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Jun 19, 2009
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Yes, not surprised by Arsenal getting a poor referring decision in their favour, lost count the amount of times they've benefited in such circumstances.

At least we now know where their transfer budget has gone.... straight into the ref's pocket
 

cwy21

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May 11, 2009
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I'm not going to call for his head for stopping play. It happens. 99% of players probably fall to the ground there. He probably didn't know Altidore enough to know that he loves to fight through challenges like that.

However, once you stop play for a foul, it has to be a red for dogso.
 

BehindEnemyLines

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What I find comical is that all this is forgotten in the goons bizarre errant confidence this season.
 

SpursManChris

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Can't have both. Either play on and allow the goal or give the free kick and a red card. The red card would have been for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity. If he'd played on and allowed the goal then the opportunity wouldn't have been denied.

This is what annoys me. Players get sent off for the clear intent of a reckless challenge even if there is no broken leg but players can stay on after the clear intent of denying a goal scoring opportunity even if the goal was scored. It sends the message that there are no serious consequences and that you can get away with it just because there was no negative outcome and the player could go on to re-offend, denying another goal scoring opportunity, when they might have otherwise learnt their lesson from being sent off in a prior incident and choose not to do it again. Why do players get sent off even in the event that the challenged player comes through unharmed? Because it sends the message that it's unacceptable, regardless of the outcome and could have easily resulted in a very different outcome. Preventing a goal scoring opportunity is also unacceptable. I realise that broken leg risk is more serious (in the moment) than goal prevention risk, but long term, one unscored goal can send a team down. It can be serious stuff.
 

Gassin's finest

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To be fair the ref blew when the offence occured, he never played advantage. Not his fault if the players ignored him and carried on playing. And not his fault that most players (and their managers these days) are respectless, tantrum throwing little babies.
 

BehindEnemyLines

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To be fair the ref blew when the offence occured, he never played advantage. Not his fault if the players ignored him and carried on playing. And not his fault that most players (and their managers these days) are respectless, tantrum throwing little babies.
Yes, but that wouldn't stop it from being a red card though!
 
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