Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Lou3000]

We're going to have to adapt without Eriksen, much like Liverpool without Coutinho.

I think Eriksen is a Bale/Modric level player that we're going to sorely miss, but just like when those players left, you realize that their individual brilliance was covering for weaknesses in the squad.

Sissoko is fantastic at what he does, but a Sissoko/Wanyama or Sissoko/Dier midfield is basically asking Eriksen to be responsible for our entire creative output. It's why we're so much better with Winks. While he's not Eriksen, he can at least help.

A player like Lo Celso (or Ziyech) and a player like N'Dombele would raise the level of the entire squad even though neither can be a 1-to-1 replacement for Eriksen.

 

[wrd]

We're going to have to adapt without Eriksen, much like Liverpool without Coutinho.

I think Eriksen is a Bale/Modric level player that we're going to sorely miss, but just like when those players left, you realize that their individual brilliance was covering for weaknesses in the squad.

Sissoko is fantastic at what he does, but a Sissoko/Wanyama or Sissoko/Dier midfield is basically asking Eriksen to be responsible for our entire creative output. It's why we're so much better with Winks. While he's not Eriksen, he can at least help.

A player like Lo Celso (or Ziyech) and a player like N'Dombele would raise the level of the entire squad even though neither can be a 1-to-1 replacement for Eriksen.

There could also be an argument that although Eriksen is clearly top class that he might not be as much a Poch player as somebody like Lo Celso. Although Eriksen has been superb within working for the team with pressing and ridiculous running stats, Lo Celso is a bit more aggressive in terms of tackling and winning the ball, similar to Lamela actually in that regard so maybe he suits what Poch wants more in that kind of role and suits the fluidity Poch wants by easily being able to move deep depending how the game progresses.

We can't replace Eriksen because there's very few with his quality on the ball but I wonder if the change might actually suit Poch in terms of the style he wants to play if we sign a player like Lo Celso, as you say similar to Liverpool with Coutinho.

 

[Lighty64]

Adequate cover for Toby?? Sanchez has degreased. Foyth is a liability still and dier doesn’t want to be a defender and no way near Toby’s level.

Unfortunately we can’t rely on jan playing 40 games a season he always has a spell on the sidelines at some stage.

Not replacing Toby would be disastrous

last season when Toby was injured Sanchez was a very good replacement. this season he has only been a regular when Jan or Toby have been out, or played in the centre of a back 3 which didn't suit him, and when Jan had 2 periods out he was played on the right, where personally I think he would prefer to of played on the left like he does for Columbia.

Dier would be better as the central of a back 3, like he did the season we finished 2nd. with Foyth he will improve in time, and Poch can see that. if he was worried about him, he wouldn't of promised him a CL spot, which stopped us shopping abroad for a Dembele replacement.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

There could also be an argument that although Eriksen is clearly top class that he might not be as much a Poch player as somebody like Lo Celso. Although Eriksen has been superb within working for the team with pressing and ridiculous running stats, Lo Celso is a bit more aggressive in terms of tackling and winning the ball, similar to Lamela actually in that regard so maybe he suits what Poch wants more in that kind of role and suits the fluidity Poch wants by easily being able to move deep depending how the game progresses.

We can't replace Eriksen because there's very few with his quality on the ball but I wonder if the change might actually suit Poch in terms of the style he wants to play if we sign a player like Lo Celso, as you say similar to Liverpool with Coutinho.

Yep and as Liverpool have shown you don’t need ‘11’ stars to be an outstanding team. They’ve 3 very talented attackers, a solid central midfield but none of them are what you would call outstanding, Van Dijk, 2 competent full backs and a very good keeper. Man for man they’re not that much better than us but they have greater depth and like for like players, something we most certainly don’t.

Sign 2 new full backs and pack the central midfield with combative/creativity and we’ll be a much more balanced and stronger side.

 

[cider spurs]

Yep and as Liverpool have shown you don’t need ‘11’ stars to be an outstanding team. They’ve 3 very talented attackers, a solid central midfield but none of them are what you would call outstanding, Van Dijk, 2 competent full backs and a very good keeper. Man for man they’re not that much better than us but they have greater depth and like for like players, something we most certainly don’t.

Sign 2 new full backs and pack the central midfield with combative/creativity and we’ll be a much more balanced and stronger side.

Their competent fullbacks Trent Alexander and Robertson provided 23 assists in the league between them.

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

Bringing in those 2 at the expense of Eriksen would be a massive upgrade for us. What kind of mythical season from Eriksen are people thinking of when we talk about him?

He allows us to play the way we do, id argue no player is important to the style than he is

 

[KenTHFC]

Yep and as Liverpool have shown you don’t need ‘11’ stars to be an outstanding team. They’ve 3 very talented attackers, a solid central midfield but none of them are what you would call outstanding, Van Dijk, 2 competent full backs and a very good keeper. Man for man they’re not that much better than us but they have greater depth and like for like players, something we most certainly don’t.

Sign 2 new full backs and pack the central midfield with combative/creativity and we’ll be a much more balanced and stronger side.

You sir are horribly underrating them

 

[Ben1]

Yep and as Liverpool have shown you don’t need ‘11’ stars to be an outstanding team. They’ve 3 very talented attackers, a solid central midfield but none of them are what you would call outstanding, Van Dijk, 2 competent full backs and a very good keeper. Man for man they’re not that much better than us but they have greater depth and like for like players, something we most certainly don’t.

Sign 2 new full backs and pack the central midfield with combative/creativity and we’ll be a much more balanced and stronger side.

I think at least 6 of that Liverpool side could be considered stars.

 

[Vincent30]

We're going to have to adapt without Eriksen, much like Liverpool without Coutinho.

I think Eriksen is a Bale/Modric level player that we're going to sorely miss, but just like when those players left, you realize that their individual brilliance was covering for weaknesses in the squad.

Sissoko is fantastic at what he does, but a Sissoko/Wanyama or Sissoko/Dier midfield is basically asking Eriksen to be responsible for our entire creative output. It's why we're so much better with Winks. While he's not Eriksen, he can at least help.

A player like Lo Celso (or Ziyech) and a player like N'Dombele would raise the level of the entire squad even though neither can be a 1-to-1 replacement for Eriksen.

I think Eriksen is some way off the level of Bale and Modric. Whilst i think he is a good to very good player. Bale and Modric are elite, Bale carried us completely in one season doing things you couldn't even imagine and scored one of the best goals in a Champions League final after being on the pitch for barely a minute, whilst Modric has been quite easily the best CM in the world consistently for 4 seasons winning countless trophies and awards.

Eriksen has 5 or 6 amazing games a year but that's it. Let's take off the rose tinted glasses for a second. I would take Ndombele and Lo Celso over Eriksen in an absolute heart beat.

He isn't in the Bale, Modric, Hazard, Bernado Silva bracket, he never will be.

Disclaimer - I'm not saying i want to sell him or don't rate him as i see his value in our team, i just think a few vastly overrate him.

 

[CrouchPotato]

Lo Celso and Ndombele are the two players I want most. With those 2 in we could easily play a 3 in midfield that’s dynamic and creative, yet has the necessary bite for the prem.

Lo Celso is proper class, only player that completed more dribbles than him in La Liga that is under 23 is Ousmane Dembele. He’s young and has a bit more trickery than Eriksen which I feel we have lacked in midfield.

His delivery isn’t as good, however it’s time to accept replacing Eriksen with a like for like player is near impossible and to replace him we will need to change system and no longer have a clear 10 playmaker, therefore I feel Lo Celso is the perfect replacement as he allows a change to a 433 and suits a midfield 3 better than Eriksen.

Ultimately excited by the quality of player we are being linked to and the targets seem well thought out which is already far better than the past Njie, Nkoudou and Stambouli hit and hopes.

Also please buy a right back levy

 

[Vincent30]

Lo Celso and Ndombele are the two players I want most. With those 2 in we could easily play a 3 in midfield that’s dynamic and creative, yet has the necessary bite for the prem.

Lo Celso is proper class, only player that completed more dribbles than him in La Liga that is under 23 is Ousmane Dembele. He’s young and has a bit more trickery than Eriksen which I feel we have lacked in midfield.

His delivery isn’t as good, however it’s time to accept replacing Eriksen with a like for like player is near impossible and to replace him we will need to change system and no longer have a clear 10 playmaker, therefore I feel Lo Celso is the perfect replacement as he allows a change to a 433 and suits a midfield 3 better than Eriksen.

Ultimately excited by the quality of player we are being linked to and the targets seem well thought out which is already far better than the past Njie, Nkoudou and Stambouli hit and hopes.

Also please buy a right back levy

I'm getting far too excited by this window, i've basically convinced myself we are signing:

Ndombele
Lo Celso
Bale
Wan Bassika / Atal
Youth Prospect - Jack Clarke

I guess i'm aiming high with a Champions League win and these guys joining us. Being realistic isn't any fun.

 

[cider spurs]

If reports of us having a £52 million offer for Celso turned down are true, and again, reports stating we're interested in both Brooks and Wilson for £80 million are to be believed.

I'd much sooner save the money we'd spend on Wilson and invest it on upping our bids for Ndombele and Celso if needed to get over the line.

Get Sturridge on a free to offset not signing Wilson, hopefully he'll be fit when required. Let's be honest, it's not like Wilson is a butcher's dog of late.

 

[worcestersauce]

Sorry if this has been touched on before but Betis only signed him permanently last month so why would they sell him to us now? Did they only finalise the deal to cash in on him? Also will he be able to play for us anyway as he was contracted to PSG then Betis so we'd be the third club in a year which isn't allowed, or is it that he only played for Betis so it would be ok?

 

[chrisd2k]

Seems that way yes

 

[CrouchPotato]

Sorry if this has been touched on before but Betis only signed him permanently last month so why would they sell him to us now? Did they only finalise the deal to cash in on him? Also will he be able to play for us anyway as he was contracted to PSG then Betis so we'd be the third club in a year which isn't allowed, or is it that he only played for Betis so it would be ok?

Think it’s similar to Jovic, signed him to sell on. Betis aren’t the best off financially. His last appearance for PSG was a substitute appearance on the 8/18/18 so I believe that shouldn’t be an issue

 

[TEESSIDE1]

With Betis wanting his buy out clause of £88m isn’t it about time we scratched this one off the list? City are signing out right quality for less than we’re potentially going to have to pay for lesser players.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

With Betis wanting his buy out clause of £88m isn’t it about time we scratched this one off the list? City are signing out right quality for less than we’re potentially going to have to pay for lesser players.

Betis need the money cos they didn't qualify for Europe so I'm pretty sure they'll take less.

 

[Japhet]

My guess would be that we'd like Grealish because of HG status. We'll know more after the play off final but I'm hoping LoCelso is very high on the list if we can't get JG.

 

[arunspurs]

@[B]DuncanCastles[/B] 3h3 hours ago
Champions League finalists Tottenham Hotspur in negotiations with Real Betis to sign Argentina attacking midfielder Giovani Lo Celso. PSG due 20% of the profit on a transfer. #THFC #ARG
https://t.co/y1HQUtbYjV

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

@[B]DuncanCastles[/B] 3h3 hours ago
Champions League finalists Tottenham Hotspur in negotiations with Real Betis to sign Argentina attacking midfielder Giovani Lo Celso. PSG due 20% of the profit on a transfer. #THFC #ARG
https://t.co/y1HQUtbYjV

Excuse my fuckwittery ignorance but is this a reliable source?