Gareth Bale

[WalkerboyUK]

Chinese clubs can't afford him due to the tax:

https://www.skysports.com/football/...eject-china-for-elite-club-says-graham-hunter

"No top player, and he's one of them for sure, wants to be on the bench," Calderon added.

"He would like to be playing, it doesn't matter where but I suppose at a big club, but no offers have come - that is another problem.

"They are talking about Chinese clubs but they have the problem about paying the transfer fee, with their new rules, they have to pay the same money to the federation.

"That will double the amount for the transfer fee. I think in this case the best solution would be a loan, but nobody is willing to do that."

 

[p.l.edmonds]

Why is everything so black and white with the users of SC. For example:

• He's on £600k per week. He may be, he may not be, we don't know. And if he is, we don't know anything about how that's structured - maybe it's £300k plus £300k in appearance / bonus payments? Or maybe £600k is just a BS number plucked out of the air by a journalist many moons ago and that's just stuck ever since.
• He's not going to accept less than £600k per week to move. That might be the case but equally it might not. If he earned £300k per week for his first three years there and £600k per week for the past three years, that's about £140 million. Yes he'll have paid a shed load of tax but even so, he must have cleared £60 million, probably more (who knows what arrangements he might have to pay less tax?!). Out of principle he might want to stick it to Madrid and get everything he can out of them, but equally he might decide that whatever he has left out of that £60m (plus the decent money he earned at Spurs before that) means that he doesn't need to. Who are we to say.
• Real Madrid aren't just going to pay him off (and if they are, they'll have to pay up his contract in full). And they definitely won't subsidise his wages to move somewhere else. He has 3 years left on a contract that might be worth £600k per week. That's £93 million. If Madrid aren't going to play him, they may as well try to avoid paying that £93 million if they possibly can. If that means giving him a payout now, or paying some of his wages for a period (which is obviously better for cashflow than a straight-up payout) but leaves a huge long term saving, of course they're going to do that - if they don't have any other options.
• Bale will go to whoever pays the most. As above, maybe he will and maybe he won't. It'll all depends what he wants out of the next few years. I imagine he has plenty of cash in the bank and could definitely afford not to. It's not too naive to assume footballers might not just chase the biggest paycheques.

I'm not saying he'll come to Spurs (if Spurs are even interested), just that if there was enough will to make it happen, the 'can't be done' barriers start coming down.

But all the people involved will be looking at the bigger picture (and for Real that has to be how can we get Bale out costing us as little as possible: £93m vs any alternative) and absolutely none of this will be black and white.

I personally think that wherever he goes he'll end up being a bit of a bargain, on account of just how weak Real Madrid have made their own bargaining position by being so determined, and so publically, to get him out.

 

[Miggs1965]

Ndombele
Sessegnon
Lo Celso
Bale
Keep Alderwireld & Eriksen. Its a squad that can win the title.

Would absolutely love that scenario

 

[RikkiRocket]

Is anyone here a friend of Gareth Bale who speaks Spanish? Because that's the only way you'd know what efforts he's taken to learn the language and how fluent he is. I don't know Gareth but my hunch is he does speak Spanish but is uncomfortable doing so in public.

Don't forget that for years our manager rarely if ever spoke English in public but the consensus here is that he'd learnt it and likely spoke English to his players and staff, to Levy and also to people he'd encounter in day-to-day life away from the media, like shop assistants, footy folk, his car mechanic, the postman, his neighbours, and so on. He was uncomfortable, maybe shy, wary of being misunderstood and having his words twisted by the press, and perhaps it was tactical or maybe he just couldn't be arsed with humouring people who had no interest in him as a person but in what he could do for them -- give them a story, status by association, money, an object of ridicule, or whatever.

I suspect Bale and Poch's linguistic abilities, the contexts in which they demonstrate them and the amount they choose to reveal are broadly similar, as are their motivations in this regard, and perhaps too are their personal comfort levels in using their second languages when, as the perfectionists they undoubtedly are, they've felt like beginners with a lot of room for improvement.

You can't use Spanish as a stick to beat Bale with.

When GB starts against Villa in a few, my stick (Spanish or otherwise) will be out and getting beat!

 

[wrd]

Chinese clubs can't afford him due to the tax:

https://www.skysports.com/football/...eject-china-for-elite-club-says-graham-hunter

"No top player, and he's one of them for sure, wants to be on the bench," Calderon added.

"He would like to be playing, it doesn't matter where but I suppose at a big club, but no offers have come - that is another problem.

"They are talking about Chinese clubs but they have the problem about paying the transfer fee, with their new rules, they have to pay the same money to the federation.

"That will double the amount for the transfer fee. I think in this case the best solution would be a loan, but nobody is willing to do that."

Problem with that is that I think Madrid are we willing to let him to leave for free to save on the wages.

 

[wpmcg]

Why is everything so black and white with the users of SC. For example:

• He's on £600k per week. He may be, he may not be, we don't know. And if he is, we don't know anything about how that's structured - maybe it's £300k plus £300k in appearance / bonus payments? Or maybe £600k is just a BS number plucked out of the air by a journalist many moons ago and that's just stuck ever since.
• He's not going to accept less than £600k per week to move. That might be the case but equally it might not. If he earned £300k per week for his first three years there and £600k per week for the past three years, that's about £140 million. Yes he'll have paid a shed load of tax but even so, he must have cleared £60 million, probably more (who knows what arrangements he might have to pay less tax?!). Out of principle he might want to stick it to Madrid and get everything he can out of them, but equally he might decide that whatever he has left out of that £60m (plus the decent money he earned at Spurs before that) means that he doesn't need to. Who are we to say.
• Real Madrid aren't just going to pay him off (and if they are, they'll have to pay up his contract in full). And they definitely won't subsidise his wages to move somewhere else. He has 3 years left on a contract that might be worth £600k per week. That's £93 million. If Madrid aren't going to play him, they may as well try to avoid paying that £93 million if they possibly can. If that means giving him a payout now, or paying some of his wages for a period (which is obviously better for cashflow than a straight-up payout) but leaves a huge long term saving, of course they're going to do that - if they don't have any other options.
• Bale will go to whoever pays the most. As above, maybe he will and maybe he won't. It'll all depends what he wants out of the next few years. I imagine he has plenty of cash in the bank and could definitely afford not to. It's not too naive to assume footballers might not just chase the biggest paycheques.

I'm not saying he'll come to Spurs (if Spurs are even interested), just that if there was enough will to make it happen, the 'can't be done' barriers start coming down.

But all the people involved will be looking at the bigger picture (and for Real that has to be how can we get Bale out costing us as little as possible: £93m vs any alternative) and absolutely none of this will be black and white.

I personally think that wherever he goes he'll end up being a bit of a bargain, on account of just how weak Real Madrid have made their own bargaining position by being so determined, and so publically, to get him out.

Very good post!

 

[fortworthspur]

Real Madrid are on the hook for Bale's wages for the next 3 years. That is a cost of £100m.

Nobody outside of China is going to match that, so therefore he has no transfer value. Even the Chinese won't pay a transfer fee, but may match (or exceed) his current wages.

A transfer fee is compensation to the selling club for the loss of the player over the remaining time on his contract. Madrid want him gone and there are no takers in Europe. So Real Madrid only have one option, to offload him to any club that is willing to offer Bale as much money as possible and then Madrid either have to let him go for nothing, or subsidise his wages for the next 3 years if there is a shortfall.

On top of that, Bale has to agree to go to whichever club agrees this deal. That could well be the biggest sticking point.

In short, Madrid are in a very, very weak position.

A bit like Man U are in with Sanchez and that mob down the road are with Ozil.

not only that, but if they honored their contract he'd be 33 when it expires and they couldnt expect to get a big transfer fee. I can see them buying out his contract at a discount and letting him go to be free of him because they are in such a weak position. At least thats what Im hoping for.

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

But you can beat him with a Pinata stick.....cos it's Spanish.....



That's shit even by my low standards.

We had my six-year-old's birthday party on Saturday and after the piñata we had 35 small children all crying at once, which was mad, alarming but mostly very, very funny. It's a brutal sport, and probably why Bale chose football instead.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

If ever proof were needed.

*It's probably been posted before but meh

 

[Ossie'sAardvark]

not only that, but if they honored their contract he'd be 33 when it expires and they couldnt expect to get a big transfer fee. I can see them buying out his contract at a discount and letting him go to be free of him because they are in such a weak position. At least thats what Im hoping for.

If they want rid that bad, thats probably they're only choice.

 

[JCRD]

Chinese clubs can't afford him due to the tax:

https://www.skysports.com/football/...eject-china-for-elite-club-says-graham-hunter

"No top player, and he's one of them for sure, wants to be on the bench," Calderon added.

"He would like to be playing, it doesn't matter where but I suppose at a big club, but no offers have come - that is another problem.

"They are talking about Chinese clubs but they have the problem about paying the transfer fee, with their new rules, they have to pay the same money to the federation.

"That will double the amount for the transfer fee. I think in this case the best solution would be a loan, but nobody is willing to do that."

Spurs it is then

 

[yankspurs]

View attachment 53215

If ever proof were needed.

*It's probably been posted before but meh

That photoshop is abnormally large to be allowed on this forum @mods. Oh, wait

 

[Yid-ol]

If real (or just Zidane) want him out by the end of this window, if bale just sits tight real might just terminate his contract leaving him free to sign for who he wants.... Would result in no transfer fee for the club buying and making it slightly easier to pay his wages a bit.....

Now where are those straws!

 

[chinaman]

If real (or just Zidane) want him out by the end of this window, if bale just sits tight real might just terminate his contract leaving him free to sign for who he wants.... Would result in no transfer fee for the club buying and making it slightly easier to pay his wages a bit.....

Now where are those straws!

Don't think that they can just terminate his contract arbitrarily without paying compensation.

 

[ardiles]

Why does Zidane dislike him so much? I don't get it

I knew that one day, Bale’s man-bun would get him into all sorts of trouble .

 

[Mattspurs1982]

I wonder if Real still owe us some of the £86m. We could potentially write that off as a big chunk of any transfer fee (trying not to dream on this.... but it’s the hope that kills ya)

 

[ClintEastwould]

He’s coming home, he’s coming home, he’s coming, Gareth’s coming home?

Curious. You literally are the most sour of sour pusses for everything regarding this club but you're somehow optimistic of the most wildly unlikely scenario besides a last minute 5 year Messi deal? What gives.

 

[Hotspurious]

Curious. You literally are the most sour of sour pusses for everything regarding this club (expect if we win a match?) but you're somehow optimistic of the most widly unlikely scenarios besides a last minute 5 year Messi deal? What gives.

Classic contrarian. Gives opinions that are the opposite of consensus as agreeing with prevailing thought brings no acclaim. But, being right even occasionally when espousing an unpopular opinion makes one sound wise.

 

[ardiles]

If Bale moves to a club in China, I bet he’ll do his match interviews in Spanish just to piss off ZZ & RM.

 

[Yid-ol]

Don't think that they can just terminate his contract arbitrarily without paying compensation.

It would normally be paying up the rest of his contract or they agree a figure to settle on.