Gareth Bale

[Hazelton]

I think we should offer him £150,000 and one of Joe Lewis' golf courses.

 

[oobaties]

Always get a wee semi whenever I see the Bale thread up near the top! ?

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

I do feel a degree of sympathy for Bale here. The party that really should be flexible is Real. How can they possibly suggest Bale has been a failure at RM? The club and its vile fans are peddling a completely fictionalised version of reality about how Bale has performed on and off pitch. They signed him to a ridiculous contract, he’s proved himself quite worthy of it, and now they are trying to force him out on a whim and refuse to be flexible in return.

 

[Spurger King]

An incredible player, but I can’t see this ever happening.

I think earlier posts are on the money about him holding all the cards in terms of his contract. He’s worked hard, got to the peak of the football elite, and scored decisive goals in two CL finals. He could retire now with nothing left to prove, and should be a Madrid legend. Instead he’s been treated like shit by the club and fans. If I were him I’d lap up the Spanish sun and play golf as the cash flows in. There’s very little possibility of him improving his current situation.

One of the very few possibilities would be United. Pretty much my one piece of ITK is that United have kept tabs on Bale. I used to work with a family friend of Giggs, and he said that even after Bale joined us they maintained regular contact. They were behind the switch to No. 11 (as their groomed Welsh wizard replacement). They can afford him, definitely need him, and have the global clout to keep his sponsors happy. If I were a betting man I’d lump money on that outcome.

As for us, do we need him? That’s a genuine question. He’d be a great replacement for Eriksen with Son and Dele either side of him. But would we prefer to keep Eriksen, or indeed bring in a younger prospect?

I think he’ll dig his heals in at Madrid, or end up at United.

 

[yankspurs]

I do feel a degree of sympathy for Bale here. The party that really should be flexible is Real. How can they possibly suggest Bale has been a failure at RM? The club and its vile fans are peddling a completely fictionalised version of reality about how Bale has performed on and off pitch. They signed him to a ridiculous contract, he’s proved himself quite worthy of it, and now they are trying to force him out on a whim and refuse to be flexible in return.

In Madrid fans eyes, Ronaldo won them the CL’s by himself. They probably also view him as the reason Ronaldo left.

 

[jt hotspur]

Its just my take on this, its a stand off at the minute, its who blinks first. Rm will get him out at a loss at some point and have probly already factored what loss they will go too already but atm they must not blink hopeing someone comes in now.
Bale would be insane to want to stay even connected to the club. Even if he could retire playing golf laughing at them. That would be as bad an end to a superstar career as George Bests wasted last years playing in USA. Bale unlike Best is a total career driven professional and will want a legacy. For this reason i believe Bale will have also factored in what £ hit he will take.
My guess is there is probly about 6 clubs with enough £ in a position to take bale on once the two parties start to move. In the end i think Bale will have plenty of choice. I do believe we will be on his short list even if we dont have the best offer.
All i hope for is that he's taken such abuse that he makes his decision with his heart and then we will be at the top of that list. And remember we are in a completely different position now as to when Bale left. If winning things is still a driving force could he believe we are close enough that he could make the difference.
As for fitting in, i cant even understand the thought process of y someone would think he wouldnt.
I know that its all a long shot or a pipe dream but its not over til the fat woman sings. Bring him home.

 

[thisismyback]

Its just my take on this, its a stand off at the minute, its who blinks first. Rm will get him out at a loss at some point and have probly already factored what loss they will go too already but atm they must not blink hopeing someone comes in now.
Bale would be insane to want to stay even connected to the club. Even if he could retire playing golf laughing at them. That would be as bad an end to a superstar career as George Bests wasted last years playing in USA. Bale unlike Best is a total career driven professional and will want a legacy. For this reason i believe Bale will have also factored in what £ hit he will take.
My guess is there is probly about 6 clubs with enough £ in a position to take bale on once the two parties start to move. In the end i think Bale will have plenty of choice. I do believe we will be on his short list even if we dont have the best offer.
All i hope for is that he's taken such abuse that he makes his decision with his heart and then we will be at the top of that list. And remember we are in a completely different position now as to when Bale left. If winning things is still a driving force could he believe we are close enough that he could make the difference.
As for fitting in, i cant even understand the thought process of y someone would think he wouldnt.
I know that its all a long shot or a pipe dream but its not over til the fat woman sings. Bring him home.

You know what’s insane? Giving money back on a sizeable guaranteed contract that you will never see again.

I’m sure they will reach some compromise but RM will end up getting the worst of it.

 

[Ronwol196061]

There's value in being happy what you are doing.Bale and RM making a deal so everybody moves on makes sense.Sure Bale holding out might well make him a little richer but the cost is with your soul.
Fair money for Bale and a break.
Coming back to Tottenham with a pay cut if 50% is not the end of the world.
Tottenham and RM splitting the difference.
Eriksen goes to RM we get say 60 mil
We get Ceballos if still available for 30m if not get Zaniola.How bad can this be?

 

[ButchCassidy]

There's value in being happy what you are doing.Bale and RM making a deal so everybody moves on makes sense.Sure Bale holding out might well make him a little richer but the cost is with your soul.
Fair money for Bale and a break.
Coming back to Tottenham with a pay cut if 50% is not the end of the world.
Tottenham and RM splitting the difference.
Eriksen goes to RM we get say 60 mil
We get Ceballos if still available for 30m if not get Zaniola.How bad can this be?

Or, he doesn’t do that, and he gets 45M more, and Madrid send him on loan to Milan or Munich to try to build up some actual transfer value. It’s easy to hand wave away how much money 45 MILLION is when it’s not yours!

 

[Ronwol196061]

Or, he doesn’t do that, and he gets 45M more, and Madrid send him on loan to Milan or Munich to try to build up some actual transfer value. It’s easy to hand wave away how much money 45 MILLION is when it’s not yours!

Send him?
Maybe he wants to come home!
You want him exiled forever?
If Eriksen has a choice,surely Bale has a choice?

 

[ButchCassidy]

Send him?
Maybe he wants to come home!
You want him exiled forever?
If Eriksen has a choice,surely Bale has a choice?

Sorry Ron but it’s a good thing you aren’t Bale’s agent then. He has Madrid by the balls with that contract and Barnett knows it, but as soon as he acts willing to take a pay cut he will lose an incredible amount of money. As it stands all the pressure is on Madrid to find a way to move him.

 

[DCSPUR]

Bale and his agent will play it smart this summer....refuse to move unless contract paid out or a team that Bale wants makes up the diff. Essentially means Real would have to agree to probably pay Bale 2/3 of the money they owe for 3 years with us paying 1/3 to make a deal happen. With no transfer fee. Bale gets his money, 3 years at Spurs and it costs us 200k pw.
Right now Real won't go for it....but another 6 months of Bale golfing for 600k pw can change some minds in Spain!

 

[Ronwol196061]

Sorry Ron but it’s a good thing you aren’t Bale’s agent then. He has Madrid by the balls with that contract and Barnett knows it, but as soon as he acts willing to take a pay cut he will lose an incredible amount of money. As it stands all the pressure is on Madrid to find a way to move him.

I'm not Bales agent.Im a Tottenham supporter,Agent Navy.
Bale can decide for himself what he wants,he did in the first place.
If you are an artist and you are passionate what you do,sometimes that's more important than money especially if you have an abundance of it to begin with.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Bale and his agent will play it smart this summer....refuse to move unless contract paid out or a team that Bale wants makes up the diff. Essentially means Real would have to agree to probably pay Bale 2/3 of the money they owe for 3 years with us paying 1/3 to make a deal happen. With no transfer fee. Bale gets his money, 3 years at Spurs and it costs us 200k pw.
Right now Real won't go for it....but another 6 months of Bale golfing for 600k pw can change some minds in Spain!

You could be in the right track DC.

 

[ButchCassidy]

Bale and his agent will play it smart this summer....refuse to move unless contract paid out or a team that Bale wants makes up the diff. Essentially means Real would have to agree to probably pay Bale 2/3 of the money they owe for 3 years with us paying 1/3 to make a deal happen. With no transfer fee. Bale gets his money, 3 years at Spurs and it costs us 200k pw.
Right now Real won't go for it....but another 6 months of Bale golfing for 600k pw can change some minds in Spain!

Don’t think even Real are that thick, Bales value after being sidelined for six months will be way, way lower than it even is now. IMO the only likely outcome is a late loan for a portion of wages, which unfortunately probably rules us out with the early window close. That or he ends up as part of a Pogba deal.

 

[ButchCassidy]

I'm not Bales agent.Im a Tottenham supporter,Agent Navy.
Bale can decide for himself what he wants,he did in the first place.
If you are an artist and you are passionate what you do,sometimes that's more important than money especially if you have an abundance of it to begin with.

Like I said, mighty easy to take that stance when it’s not your 45M on the line. Bale has a decent chance of both getting paid and getting a good move out of Madrid, and he’s not gonna intentionally torpedo that for his romantic memories of lilywhite.

 

[brasil_spur]

You know what’s insane? Giving money back on a sizeable guaranteed contract that you will never see again.

I’m sure they will reach some compromise but RM will end up getting the worst of it.

It's not as simple as that though. He's likely already in danger of loosing sponsorship money in the immediate future and a season barely getting game time at Madrid will further worsen this position. Additionally if he ends up seeing out the rest of his contract at Madrid with little game time his market value and thus next contract move will be significantly worse too.

So over a period of five years he could end up much worse off financially by not moving on now to a team where he can cement his starting place.

If it is just about the money then he should just move to China for 3 years on an insane contract and then retire. But he doesn't seem like that kind of a person to me.

 

[Goobers]

Given the circumstances, the money he is on, the fact he enjoys living in Spain not to mention the financial fair play coming into action surely Bale is almost untransferfable this window. I cannot see this happening although it would be truly special.

 

[ButchCassidy]

It's not as simple as that though. He's likely already in danger of loosing sponsorship money in the immediate future and a season barely getting game time at Madrid will further worsen this position. Additionally if he ends up seeing out the rest of his contract at Madrid with little game time his market value and thus next contract move will be significantly worse too.

So over a period of five years he could end up much worse off financially by not moving on now to a team where he can cement his starting place.

If it is just about the money then he should just move to China for 3 years on an insane contract and then retire. But he doesn't seem like that kind of a person to me.

It’s not that he’s desperate to see out his contract in Madrid reserves, or that it’s all about the money (I too think he would turn down China or Qatar right now); it’s that he needs RM to believe that he’s happy to do so, so that they will stop playing chicken with his contract. No one loses more than Madrid with Bale not playing - if they think he’s undervalued by the market now, it will get immensely worse after a year of golf. Letting him stay is essentially committing to paying out all 90M on his contract - they will be motivated to find him a move, or a shop-window-esque loan to at least build some transfer value. But if he shows that he is highly motivated to move, they can use the threat of keeping him to force him into agreeing a big salary reduction. Just a big game of chicken, and a lot of money on the line.

 

[Japhet]

It's not as simple as that though. He's likely already in danger of loosing sponsorship money in the immediate future and a season barely getting game time at Madrid will further worsen this position. Additionally if he ends up seeing out the rest of his contract at Madrid with little game time his market value and thus next contract move will be significantly worse too.

So over a period of five years he could end up much worse off financially by not moving on now to a team where he can cement his starting place.

If it is just about the money then he should just move to China for 3 years on an insane contract and then retire. But he doesn't seem like that kind of a person to me.

His profile won't drop much (if at all) while the football world waits to find out where he ends up. He's still a massively marketable asset whatever happens in the next weeks and months.