Ex-player watch: Andros Townsend

['O Zio]

Glad we've moved on from players like him nowadays. He got off lightly because "he's a spurs lad" but he really was a terrible player. One trick pony whose one trick didn't even work ffs. Had a purple patch of about 2 games and suddenly thought he was billy big bollocks. Glad Poch saw him for what he is and kicked him out the first chance he got.

 

[DJS]

Glad we've moved on from players like him nowadays. He got off lightly because "he's a spurs lad" but he really was a terrible player. One trick pony whose one trick didn't even work ffs. Had a purple patch of about 2 games and suddenly thought he was billy big bollocks. Glad Poch saw him for what he is and kicked him out the first chance he got.

Harsh.

 

['O Zio]

Harsh.

Maybe, maybe not. To me he'll always be a completely one dimensional player who was far too arrogant to make it at a top club. Not the kind of personality that I want in our squad and neither does Poch. He'll be a decent enough squad player for a bottom half club but that's about his level and always was IMO. I think he gets off easy because he's a spurs fan. If he was Andres N'otanotherone signed from some French club everyone would've thoguht he was dreadful, but there was too much of people wanting him to be good and giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was "one of our own" etc. etc. IMO.

 

[DJS]

Maybe, maybe not. To me he'll always be a completely one dimensional player who was far too arrogant to make it at a top club. Not the kind of personality that I want in our squad and neither does Poch. He'll be a decent enough squad player for a bottom half club but that's about his level and always was IMO. I think he gets off easy because he's a spurs fan. If he was Andres N'otanotherone signed from some French club everyone would've thoguht he was dreadful, but there was too much of people wanting him to be good and giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was "one of our own" etc. etc. IMO.

I just personally feel that he was never given a fair crack as a left winger, this was during the period where Poch stubbornly played him as a right-sided inverted winger, which made him cut in and take pot shots at goal rather than playing on his natural side (where I THINK but don't quote me on this he played for our youth teams).

Even for Newcastle he tended to look more dangerous on left than when he was on right.

I blame Woy for this/

If he had been given fair crack on left side and still didn't light things up then I would have been less disappointed that we let him leave, but for me he just didn't get chance to at least try and fulfil his potential.

 

['O Zio]

I just personally feel that he was never given a fair crack as a left winger, this was during the period where Poch stubbornly played him as a right-sided inverted winger, which made him cut in and take pot shots at goal rather than playing on his natural side (where I THINK but don't quote me on this he played for our youth teams).

Even for Newcastle he tended to look more dangerous on left than when he was on right.

I blame Woy for this/

If he had been given fair crack on left side and still didn't light things up then I would have been less disappointed that we let him leave, but for me he just didn't get chance to at least try and fulfil his potential.

I 100% agree he would've been better on the left but I still think he'd have just been a bang average winger. Quick but very little in the way of end product. Instead of cutting inside taking potshots he'd have been hugging the touchline and blazing wild crosses all over the place. Still wouldn't have made it anywhere near our first team in the long run.

Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt about playing on the right, I still don't believe his instructions from Poch were to cut inside and shoot virtually every single time he got the ball. Whether it was selfishness or just awful decision making doesn't really matter in the end.

I already didn't like him and then after his hissy fit after the Newcastle (?) game we couldn't get rid of him soon enoguh IMO. Like I say, just not the kind of personality I want in the dressing room. In fairness to him, I do vaguely remember him subsequently admiring he got too big for his boots at Spurs and acknowleging that he was a nob. So fair enough. I don't have any ill will for him, I just think he was shite

 

[Insomnia]

well he's been a PL player all his career so I think the term he's shite is unfair

 

[Spurrific]

He's not shite and he seems like a nice guy to me. Crystal Palace is about his level, but there's no shame in that.

 

[bomberH]

I thought this an apt time to review Andros' greatest Spurs performance...

Jesus I remember watching this first time around but I never realised Kane was in it. Little did he know how legendary he’d become at that stage.

As for Townsend, I liked him. Always spoke well about us and is obviously a fan. He had good footballing ability but didn’t really have a plan B and was caught out eventually. The itk said at the time that he was unable to really grasp what Poch wanted but he’s certainly done ok since at Palace and Newcastle. To play for your childhood team must be amazing and he did that and moved on. Good luck to him.

 

[dude573]

I feel he was more frustrated with his situation at the time than arrogant.

He always gave his best for the club when he played and at one point under AVB, he was our only player whoever looked like scoring!

 

['O Zio]

well he's been a PL player all his career so I think the term he's shite is unfair

If someone calls a PL player "shite" then I think it's fairly obvious they mean shite in relation to other PL footballers rather than shite compared to everyone in existence

 

[King of Otters]

Maybe, maybe not. To me he'll always be a completely one dimensional player who was far too arrogant to make it at a top club. Not the kind of personality that I want in our squad and neither does Poch. He'll be a decent enough squad player for a bottom half club but that's about his level and always was IMO. I think he gets off easy because he's a spurs fan. If he was Andres N'otanotherone signed from some French club everyone would've thoguht he was dreadful, but there was too much of people wanting him to be good and giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was "one of our own" etc. etc. IMO.

What utter bastards.

 

['O Zio]

What utter bastards.

Not saying I'm against supporting our players obviously, but there comes a point where you have to be able to put things like being "one of our own" to one side and evaluate people on merit. Otherwise you end up like West Ham sticking with Noble all these years just because he's an 'ammer froo 'n froo, even though he's crap.

 

[Shadydan]

If someone calls a PL player "shite" then I think it's fairly obvious they mean shite in relation to other PL footballers rather than shite compared to everyone in existence

Well if you're gonna use such a strong and unnecessary term to describe a player on a Spurs forum nonetheless then I think you should at least expect a bit of backlash seeing as you're talking about an ex academy player who represented England at the highest level.

I'd personally reserve that word for players who have left our club who contributed fuck all to the club, more talented players who had a shite mentality who couldn't give a crap about the badge, Andros may not have been the most talented player who played for us but he always gave his all and left it all on the pitch, just a shame he left in those circumstances in the end.

 

[Haddock]

Far to sensible in here. What's up with his hair?

 

['O Zio]

Well if you're gonna use such a strong and unnecessary term to describe a player on a Spurs forum nonetheless then I think you should at least expect a bit of backlash seeing as you're talking about an ex academy player who represented England at the highest level.

I'd personally reserve that word for players who have left our club who contributed fuck all to the club, more talented players who had a shite mentality who couldn't give a crap about the badge, Andros may not have been the most talented player who played for us but he always gave his all and left it all on the pitch, just a shame he left in those circumstances in the end.

Played for England at the highest level? He played in a handful of qualifiers and a couple of friendlies, I'd hardly call that the highest level. EIther way, like I say, I respect the fact that he's a Spurs fan and academy graduate, I always love it when those players do well, but that doesn't mean I have to blindly adore each and every one of them and not say a word against them. He didn't make it with us unfortunately and I wish him all the best, but the mere fact that he's a Spurs fan isn't going to make me ignore the fact that he wasn't good enough for us and acted like a nob at the end.

 

[Shadydan]

Played for England at the highest level? He played in a handful of qualifiers and a couple of friendlies, I'd hardly call that the highest level. EIther way, like I say, I respect the fact that he's a Spurs fan and academy graduate, I always love it when those players do well, but that doesn't mean I have to blindly adore each and every one of them and not say a word against them. He didn't make it with us unfortunately and I wish him all the best, but the mere fact that he's a Spurs fan isn't going to make me ignore the fact that he wasn't good enough for us and acted like a nob at the end.

Playing for England at the highest level means he played for the national team...at the highest level.

No one is saying you have to blindly adore him I'm just offering some perspective and a reason why people are a little bit put out with you saying he's shite. You seem to be on the defensive here when you're the one who threw the jibe at him in the first place.

Also again let's put this incident into context...Townsend was frustrated that he wasn't getting any playing time and went about showing his frustrations the wrong way, okay fine he shouldn't have done that but to me that means that at least he cared. I'd rather have a player like that then neumorous players in the past who couldn't give a toss about Spurs who were happy to sit on the bench or not contribute to the club in anyway just to collect a wage.

 

[Insomnia]

If someone calls a PL player "shite" then I think it's fairly obvious they mean shite in relation to other PL footballers rather than shite compared to everyone in existence

I'd love to be a shite Premier League footballer who's not only played for the Club I adored growing up, but also represented my Country on a few occasions. I stand by my post saying the term shite is being used unfairly here, completely.

 

['O Zio]

I'd love to be a shite Premier League footballer who's not only played for the Club I adored growing up, but also represented my Country on a few occasions. I stand by my post saying the term shite is being used unfairly here, completely.

I would love it to, but I'm not really sure how that's relevant? How is whether or not he's happy with his achievements got anything to do with whether I think he's a good player or not?

Like I say, I think it's fairly clear that I didn't mean he's shite relative to your average bloke down the pub, you're just being pedantic on purpose.

 

['O Zio]

Playing for England at the highest level means he played for the national team...at the highest level.

No one is saying you have to blindly adore him I'm just offering some perspective and a reason why people are a little bit put out with you saying he's shite. You seem to be on the defensive here when you're the one who threw the jibe at him in the first place.

Also again let's put this incident into context...Townsend was frustrated that he wasn't getting any playing time and went about showing his frustrations the wrong way, okay fine he shouldn't have done that but to me that means that at least he cared. I'd rather have a player like that then neumorous players in the past who couldn't give a toss about Spurs who were happy to sit on the bench or not contribute to the club in anyway just to collect a wage.

I'm not defensive at all, apologies if it comes across that way. I'm just confused as to why it's such an issue that I don't rate him? People are more than welcome to disagree with me, and I know plenty do, and that's fine. I just find it odd that the thing I'm being criticised for is calling a PL player shite when quite clearly I mean in the context of PL players, not generally shite in comparison to me or my nan or something.

 

[Shadydan]

I'm not defensive at all, apologies if it comes across that way. I'm just confused as to why it's such an issue that I don't rate him? People are more than welcome to disagree with me, and I know plenty do, and that's fine. I just find it odd that the thing I'm being criticised for is calling a PL player shite when quite clearly I mean in the context of PL players, not generally shite in comparison to me or my nan or something.

I don't rate him either but I haven't called him shit.

It's not what you say my friend it's how you've said it, no one would care if you said that you didn't rate Andros and you were glad that he's moved on but have a look at your initial posts, your first adjectives...terrible, Billy big bollocks, arrogant, shite, it looks like you either have an agenda against him or you're talking in unnecessary extremes to get yourself noticed...that's how it comes across anyway.

With that in mind and taking into account that you're on a Spurs site in the player's thread surely you must understand why people are responding in that manner?