Euro 2020 - spread across continent

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If Switzerland and Israel were playing in my back garden I wouldn't be bothered to open the curtains.

On a serious note, this is a joke decision.
 

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One of the arguments that this is justified by the lack of credible bidders misses the point that a lot of countries probably didn't bother bidding after the last World Cup shambles.

Also, given that France are hosting the whole tournament in 2016 I trust that they will automatically be discounted from the selection process, Monsieur Platini?
 

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I think it should be split between countries that aren't big enough to host a competition on their own. Wembley shouldn't be considered for hosting but rather the Milennium Stadium, Hampden and the Aviva. No country should get automatic qualification as hosts
 

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I think it should be split between countries that aren't big enough to host a competition on their own. Wembley shouldn't be considered for hosting but rather the Milennium Stadium, Hampden and the Aviva. No country should get automatic qualification as hosts
I agree to a certain extent, if they take this to lesser developed countries with smaller stadiums, it could help their infrastructure, that wouldnt have a chance of hosting the tournament normally
 

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confirmed now

13 different venues in 13 different countries

semi's and final in same city - most likely London
 

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8438089/?

UEFA have confirmed that Euro 2020 will be staged in 13 different cities in a key change to the tournament's format, with the semi-finals and final to be played at the same venue.
Countries have co-hosted the event in the past, with Poland and Ukraine sharing last year's event, while Belgium and the Netherlands combined forces in 2000.
But European football's governing body has now confirmed how many countries will be involved, also revealing that only one venue will be used from each host nation.
Wembley Stadium
will bid to stage the closing stages of the tournament, although rival bids from Rome, Berlin, Madrid and Istanbul are also expected to be entered.
The FA will also bid for group matches and quarter-finals if its final bid for Wembley is unsuccessful, with Cardiff, Dublin and Glasgow also expected to bid to host group matches at Euro 2020.
Istanbul has emerged as the favourite, but only if it loses its bid for the 2020 Olympics, with UEFA president Michel Platini reiterating he would back the Turkish city.
"That would be my vote, but if they get the Olympic Games it's out of the question that they could stage the Euros or a match," he said.
UEFA appears keen to encourage smaller nations to bid for games though, with two host cities with a stadium capacity as low as 30,000 expected to be involved.
A further 10 stadiums will have a 50,000 minimum capacity and four of those hosting the quarter-finals must have grounds of at least 60,000, while the stadium that hosts the two semi-finals and final must have a capacity of at least 70,000.
Host countries will not qualify automatically but if they do make it to the finals, their national team will be guaranteed to play at least two of the three group matches at home.
"The matches of the Euro will be split into 13 packages - 12 cities who will have three group stage matches and one knock-out round match and one city will host the two semi-finals and final," UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino told a news conference in Nyon, Switzerland.
"There will be only one venue per country, and it means the semi-finals and final will be played in the same venue."
The bidding requirements will be decided at a meeting of UEFA's executive committee on 28 March, with the list of successful cities due to be taken in September 2014.
Meanwhile, UEFA also confirmed the 10 venues for Euro 2016, with Bordeaux, Lens, Lille, Lyon, Marseille, Nice, Paris, Saint-Denis (Stade de France), Saint-Etienne and Toulouse making the cut.
 

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So we might end up with a city/stadium list something like this;

London - Wembley (90,000)
Madrid - Bernabeu (85,454)
Cardiff - Millenium Stadium (74,500)
Berlin - Olympiastadion (74,064)
Rome - Stadio Olimpico (70,634)
Lisbon - Estadio da Luz (65,647)
Bucharest - Arena Nationala (55,600)
Vienna - Ernst Happel Stadion (53,295)
Amsterdam - Amsterdam Arena (53,052)
Dublin - Aviva Stadium (51,700)
Stockholm - Friends Arena (51,100)
Split - Stadion Poljud (35,000)
Geneva - Stade de Geneve (30,084)

I think Istanbul is possibly the favourite/IOC's preference for the 2020 Olympics, which would rule them out. I left Paris out because they should in principle not qualify to be a host city straight after having the previous tournament in France, and I don't think UEFA would go for having stadia from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland, so Hampden being the least modern stadium would lose out.

It's a pretty good list really. The longest distance between venues would still be about twice the longest distance between venues in Poland and Ukraine.
 

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Well, if this becomes the new format, the latter rounds of the CL will be played at pretty much the same stadiums year after year: there are only actually 19 stadiums in 11 different UEFA countries which can hold 60k:


4 Camp Nou 99,354 Barcelona
7 Wembley Stadium 90,000 London
11 Estadio Santiago Bernabéu 85454 Madrid
14 Stade de France 81338 Saint-Denis
15 Signal Iduna Park 80552 Dortmund
17 Stadio Giuseppe Meazza (San Siro) 80074 Milan
23 Luzhniki Stadium 78,360 Moscow
24 Atatürk Olympic Stadium 76,092 Istanbul
26 Old Trafford 75765 Manchester
32 Millennium Stadium 74500 Cardiff
33 Olympiastadion 74220 Berlin
34 Stadio Olimpico 73698 Rome
36 Allianz Arena 71137 Munich
37 Athens Olympic Stadium 71030 Athens
54 Estádio da Luz 65647 Lisbon
62 Celtic Park 60832 Glasgow
63 Emirates Stadium 60355 London
64 Stadio San Paolo 60240 Naples
67 Stade Vélodrome 60031 Marseille

(the first column is the rank in the world, by the way. Source: wikipedia)
 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24174069

England, Scotland, Wales and the Republic of Ireland have told Uefa they want to stage European Championship matches in 2020.

Uefa says 32 of its members have stated an interest in hosting games after deciding the tournament would be shared among 13 cities across Europe.

England wants to host games in London and Scotland has chosen Glasgow.

Wales has opted to go for matches in Cardiff, while the Republic has picked Dublin as its venue.

All of the major European football nations, including France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands and Spain have also expressed their desire to host matches.

The candidates have the right to change their initial host city selection, but must submit their final choices by 25 April next year.

The English Football Association wants to host either the 'finals' package - which is the semi-finals and final - at Wembley, or a 'standard' package of three group games and a knockout round match, while Scotland is keen on the latter.

Uefa president Michel Platini has previously stated his support for Istanbul to host the finals if the Turkish city lost out on hosting the 2020 Olympics, which it failed to get.

Uefa will decide on 25 September 2014 which 13 cities will host games.

"We are extremely proud to see the huge interest in the bidding process, with more than half of our member associations willing to host matches at Euro 2020," said Platini.

"The finals will be a great celebration of football across the European continent and the 60th anniversary edition will be truly special by really coming to the doorstep of all football fans."

The tournament is usually held by one or two nations and Euro 2016 will be in France, with the competition being expanded from 16 teams to 24.

Uefa has changed the hosting format for the 2020 event to mark 60 years since European football's governing body was formed.

There will be 13 different packages for Euro 2020, with 12 of them including three group matches and one knockout game from either the last 16 or quarter-finals.

The other 'finals' package is to host the semi-finals and the final, and the English FA has expressed an interest in both options.

"We would be delighted for London and Wembley Stadium to be chosen to host either of the two packages available and we look forward to working with Uefa on the forthcoming selection process," said English FA general secretary Alex Horne.

"It would be great to see England playing in front of their home fans here in London as part of a Euro finals tournament, but many countries have also put themselves forward as hosts and we expect this to be a very competitive bidding process."

The Scottish FA has told BBC Scotland it hopes Hampden Park can host the standard package.

"We fit the criteria in terms of capacity and footprint around the stadium," said an SFA spokesperson.

"The one red flag is the number of hospitality boxes, but the feeling from Uefa is that that might not inhibit our chances of hosting games."

The Football Association of Wales said: "The FAW expressed an interest in bidding and will fully evaluate, with our sporting, political and business partners, the possibility of submitting a formal bid when the full details are released by Uefa.

"Showcasing the best international football through the hosting of major events and finals tournaments remains a strategy of the FAW."

The 32 countries interested in hosting Euro 2020 games:

Armenia (Yerevan), Azerbaijan (Baku), Belarus (Minsk), Belgium (Brussels), Bulgaria (Sofia), Croatia (Zagreb), Czech Republic (Prague), Denmark (Copenhagen), England (London), Finland (Helsinki), France (Lyon), Macedonia (Skopje), Germany (Munich), Greece (Athens), Hungary (Budapest), Israel (Jerusalem), Italy (Rome and Milan), Kazakhstan (Astana), Netherlands (Amsterdam), Poland (Warsaw and Chorzow), Portugal (Lisbon and Porto), Republic of Ireland (Dublin), Romania (Bucharest), Russia (St Petersburg), Scotland (Glasgow), Serbia (Belgrade), Spain (Madrid, Barcelona, Bilbao and Valencia), Sweden (Solna), Switzerland (Basel), Turkey (Istanbul), Ukraine (Kyiv and Donetsk) and Wales (Cardiff).
 

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The 13 I would choose for proximity, venues and footballing public are :

Belgium (Brussels),
Denmark (Copenhagen),
England (London),
Netherlands (Amsterdam),
Republic of Ireland (Dublin),
Scotland (Glasgow),
Wales (Cardiff).
Italy (Milan),
Spain (Barcelona),
Czech Republic (Prague),
Germany (Munich),
France (Lyon),
Sweden (Solna),
 

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I still think France should automatically be crossed off the list as they've got the whole of Euro 2016 already. Some of the smaller countries will only ever get a chance to host a major tournament in this format, so it's a bit harsh to eliminate one of them just so Platini can get more games for France. You can possibly rule out Ukraine and Poland for the same reason.

I think Istanbul will definitely be one of the host cities, having missed out on Turkey hosting the whole tournament and subsequently the 2020 Olympics. I think it'll be decided on more than just the size and current quality of the stadia (some look a bit ramshackle so they'd have to tart them up a bit) and by trying to minimise the travel distances. Prague and Budapest may not have the biggest or best stadiums, but they're cities people will want to visit.

Barcelona, Munich, Milan, London and Lisbon/Porto will be shoe-ins, Amsterdam and Stockholm seem highly likely too. I think they'll try and spread the cities around as much as possible, rather than have as many clumped together around northern/western Europe as possible. I said before I don't think they'd give games to all of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, and I think UEFA may have intimated they won't just pick the cities with the biggest stadia. I think Dublin will get some, but Glasgow and Cardiff will miss out. The other two I think will be Bucharest (they have just finished a rather splendid new national stadium) and either Zagreb or Belgrade.
 

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Looks like Wembley will host the semi-finals and final

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-munich-2020-bid-doubt-135023510--sow.html

England's bid to host the semi-finals and final of Euro 2020 at Wembley may be completely unchallenged at next month's vote with Germany FA chiefs considering dropping Munich's rival bid.

Germany wants to stage Euro 2024 and its football association (DFB) may now only bid for Munich to host group games at Euro 2020 so as not to harm its campaign for the tournament four years later.

UEFA is holding Euro 2020 in 13 different countries to mark the 60th anniversary of the tournament and only Wembley and Munich's Allianz Arena have put in bids to host the climax of the competition - the semi-finals and final - ahead of the vote on September 19.

DFB president Wolfgang Niersbach said that a decision on whether to press ahead with a bid for the final remains "open" - but in a huge boost for England's hopes made it clear that both the DFB and the Football Association would work together to support each other.

Niersbach told Press Association Sport: "We still have the two options - to host the final rounds or four matches in the first rounds.

"Our decision is open. We have an excellent and wonderful relationship with the England FA. We are sitting together very often and thinking about the possibilities of how we can support the other association.

"It is still open but I am totally convinced that we will have both Wembley and Munich on the land map for Euro 2020.

"Discussions on the final round are still open. But we are very relaxed about it."
It is understood talks took place between the FA and DFB in June where the possibility of withdrawing Munich's bid for the final were raised by the Germans.

Niersbach also confirmed that Germany would bid for Euro 2024, which would be the first major men's football tournament the country has hosted since its hugely successful World Cup in 2006.

"I officially announced already at our general assembly in October 2013 that we want to host Euro 2024," he added.

The FA has already tried to shore up support for Wembley within UEFA by pulling out of the running to host FIFA's 2019 women's World Cup, leaving the field in Europe free for France to bid against South Korea, New Zealand and South Africa.

For the Euro 2024 tournament, Germany would be up against Turkey in the bidding - the Turkish federation withdrew Istanbul as a potential candidate for the Euro 2020 final to target hosting Euro 2024 alone.

Germany could certainly count on the support of England's UEFA executive committee member David Gill in that Euro 2024 vote.

Some 19 countries are bidding to host games in Euro 2020, most targeting a package of three group-stage matches in the 24-team tournament, plus a single knockout match from the last-16 or quarter-finals rounds.

Glasgow, Cardiff and Dublin have bid to host early matches, along with Bilbao, Rome, Munich, Stockholm, St Petersburg, Amsterdam, Brussels, Copenhagen, Jerusalem, Sofia, Bucharest, Budapest, Baku, Minsk and Skopje.
 

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As long as all of the countries hosting don't get automatic berths...I dislike these dual country euros already, since two teams (who probably would not have qualified otherwise) take two spots. If spreading it around means NO automatic berths, I'm for it...
Sadly, the idea of these teams not making it is unlikely since the next Euros will have 24 teams

For the next Euro's, the likes Ireland or Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can all make the Euro's
 

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Sadly, the idea of these teams not making it is unlikely since the next Euros will have 24 teams

For the next Euro's, the likes Ireland or Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can all make the Euro's
There won't be any automatic qualifying places for host nations, all 24 teams will have to qualify outright.
 

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There won't be any automatic qualifying places for host nations, all 24 teams will have to qualify outright.
Yea but with the nations that get it they would all probably qualify, since 24 teams go through anyway.

There will be alot of shit teams in 24 team euros
 

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Why not do it like the Champions League but over 2 years. Scrap qualifying groups and friendlies just have a lot of groups of 4 (maybe qualifiers for the likes of Luxembourg and San Marino). Then home and away knock out stages. Then the quaters/semis/and final can be played in nominated venues in the final summer as 1 off knockouts?
 

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I'm an old fashioned type of git, but personally I think this is rubbish. 24 teams is too big for a European Cup, and having the games spread out takes away half the fun of there being a host nation.

Bah humbug.
 

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Would be nice if they used it as leverage for nations to sort out their fans behaviour. Any violence or racism from your international/domestic fans and you lose a venue.
 

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As the hosts get automatic qualification does this mean that the whole continent will get to play in the finals

:rolleyes:
 
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