Eriksen still refusing Spurs contract talks

[Lilbaz]

Like I said in a previous post, don't focus so much on bids. Real can make their willing price known to us via agents or direct informal discussions (likely a ridiculous low ball that we would never accept. In the meantime, likely they already have an agreement with Eriksen sorted). They then leave us to stew on this information for months before putting an actual bid in very late in the window either at the same level or slightly higher to get the deal done. There is leverage in not putting a bid on the table as it increases pressure on the selling club who has the unsettled player on the books as a rejected bid can be used by the selling club to drive up the price as well as interest with other clubs.

Either way, the point is not about bids but that we have allowed him run his contract down.

The pressure on the selling club is if they are trying to get replacement in before the deadline.
At the moment levy should know the price he is willing to sell for and if it is not met keep him till jan at least.

Madrid are trying to get neymar. If they fail in that they may come in for eriksen. That is the only reason i can see them waiting. He could be playing for them otherwise.

 

[Lilbaz]

If they are willing to wait till deadline day to save a couple of mil why not wait till next summer and get him for free?

 

[Smokinhotspur]

Agree that United have been a disaster in recent years, but don't feel you can use the example of Coutinho either, as it was quite clear that Barcelona were desperate to sign Coutinho. Same as Real were very keen to sign Hazzard. Eriksen on the other hand, has nobody desperate to sign him, the only ones we know that have shown interest are United (where he was never going) and possibly Juventus, who seem to have adopted a strategy of taking very good,but not top class players on frees (which indicates it's the lack of a transfer fee not the player that attracts them the most).

Agree the Coutinho situation is not 100% comparable but the strong parallel is in the time left on the contracts which is what I was driving at.

You make a lot of presumptions here about things we cannot know for sure. We have no way of knowing the true level of interest in the player until the window shuts. Clubs usually have a strategy of priority in the deals they want to complete in a given window. Hazard is likely the showpiece signing they wanted to parade early and drive pre season shirt sales. They could be VERY interested in Eriksen at the same time but decide to do that deal later in the window as he serves a different purpose.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

The pressure on the selling club is if they are trying to get replacement in before the deadline.
At the moment levy should know the price he is willing to sell for and if it is not met keep him till jan at least.

Madrid are trying to get neymar. If they fail in that they may come in for eriksen. That is the only reason i can see them waiting. He could be playing for them otherwise.

Transfers especially for the top players are super complicated things to negotiate with lots of moving parts. You paint an overly simplistic, black and white picture of things which is rarely how the market works unfortunately. Millions are at stake in these negotiations and for a club like ours that has undertaken significant capital investments in the stadium and training ground, there is a real pressure in trying to extract maximum value out of our most valuable assets which ultimately players like Eriksen are.

Let's leave it there. Nice exchanging perspectives on the matter.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Good for him. I think a lot of people assume a club 'owns' a person. He will have fulfilled his contractual obligations. Whilst we would all (mostly) like him to stay, he gets freedom of choice without directors dictating where he can and cannot go.

There's a fair few of us would love a lifestyle change...!

so you're fine with him doing the club out of a massive amount of money then just so he can line his own pockets a little bit more?

eriksen has been good for spurs but spurs have also been good for eriksen, he should honour that relationship either by signing a new contract or by leaving now so that the club can reinvest some of his value into improving the squad further.

 

[Lilbaz]

Transfers especially for the top players are super complicated things to negotiate with lots of moving parts. You paint an overly simplistic, black and white picture of things which is rarely how the market works unfortunately. Millions are at stake in these negotiations and for a club like ours that has undertaken significant capital investments in the stadium and training ground, there is a real pressure in trying to extract maximum value out of our most valuable assets which ultimately players like Eriksen are.

Let's leave it there. Nice exchanging perspectives on the matter.

What has any of that got to do with levy knowing the price that he will sell eriksen for? Be sure levy has a price that if matched he will sell, if not he wont. That price will not change from now till the last day of the window, because levy does not panic. Transfers might be complicated but it all boils down to how much the club value the player. If that value is matched and the player wants to go then he does. There may be discussions regarding payment methods etc... that may hold it up, but they won't effect when the bid is made.

What is happening is that madrid and barca have both put in bids for neymar. If eriksen was madrids first choice he would be playing for them. They are not going to wait to save a few mil, they are real madrid.

 

[sebo_sek]

Chance would be a fine thing... Where are the clubs that are offering 40-50 million for him?

Right now we are saying he's not for sale and the price is higher. If we start saying he is, things might change.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

so you're fine with him doing the club out of a massive amount of money then just so he can line his own pockets a little bit more?

eriksen has been good for spurs but spurs have also been good for eriksen, he should honour that relationship either by signing a new contract or by leaving now so that the club can reinvest some of his value into improving the squad further.

I disagree.and have a slightly different perspective. I dont think he is doing the club out of anything. Although I'd like him to sign or for spurs to agree a fee with another club, it sounds more like Levy has put a price on him that noone wants to meet with only a year left. Not sure i would be any different if I wanted a change of scenery, and had a choice on how I live my life. I think many of us only view things through fan glasses. He has a contract for his services, that contract expires soon. I dont think he 'owes' anything other than to play professionally until its expiry. Perfectly within his personal choice and, a reasonable outcome and foreseeable. It might grate the fan, but in any other walk of life involving contracts noone would think twice.

Its imaginary that CE or any other player owes a club anything other than what is written down legally. It is for the club to contingency plan and be a little more accepting that human beings are either unpredictable or like to change their circumstances or way of life.

 

[Bulletspur]

I would rather compare to Liverpool and how they leveraged the maximum value out of the Coutinho situation (after he made it clear he wanted to leave) which was then reinvested in the likes of Allison, Salah and Fabinho and improved the team as a result.

The the thing with this scenario is Coutinho was wanted, it doesn't seem that Eriksen is.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Sorry if I didn't catch this somewhere. But can someone point to me why would it be good for Eriksen to run down the contract? Will he get additional amount of money when he's been signed as a free agent then?

 

[Shadydan]

Sorry if I didn't catch this somewhere. But can someone point to me why would it be good for Eriksen to run down the contract? Will he get additional amount of money when he's been signed as a free agent then?

Big signing on fee
Very good wage
Pick of clubs

Plus he becomes more attractive to his preference clubs as he'll cost nothing.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Big signing on fee
Very good wage
Pick of clubs

Plus he becomes more attractive to his preference clubs as he'll cost nothing.

The big signing on fee refers to the amount he will get?

 

[Shadydan]

The big signing on fee refers to the amount he will get?

Basically the club give you a one off payment for signing a contract with them, we'd give him one too if he renew'd his contract with us tbf.

 

[Lilbaz]

so you're fine with him doing the club out of a massive amount of money then just so he can line his own pockets a little bit more?

eriksen has been good for spurs but spurs have also been good for eriksen, he should honour that relationship either by signing a new contract or by leaving now so that the club can reinvest some of his value into improving the squad further.

Why? He signed a contract with us. He has fulfilled that contract. We paid £11m for him and have had our moneys worth. He has every right to run down his contract and leave on a free. It is not ideal for the club, but face it our owner lewis has done worse and if he hadn't performed would have got shot in a heartbeat.

 

[Lilbaz]

The big signing on fee refers to the amount he will get?

Basically he is valued at probably £80m if he was in a longer contract. If he leaves on a free clubs will be bidding for his services not just a wage but a large up front payment. He could earn a fortune.

 

[buckley]

I have no problem with what he wants to do with his future stay or go or wait for a Bosman its his choice but I do have a problem with the fact that he has been playing half throttle or in the case of Saturday the engine was turned off completely.
This scenario has been evident for the last six months and this bloke is stinking the place out.
For me I just want him gone sooner rather than later.
All these people that have been saying "Eriksen is world class " need a reality check as most of his performances over the last six months have been anonymous .

 

[newbie]

i think he will make a decision when the transfer windows shut if Madrid don't come in for him at all i could see him staying and signing but if they dont show any interest he may as well stay.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

He did an honourable thing at Ajax where he signed a one year deal, on the basis they would get a fee albeit a reduced one. That's why we got him for o ly about 11m

 

[Gilzeanking]

I do have a problem with the fact that he has been playing half throttle or in the case of Saturday the engine was turned off completely.
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I see this argument a lot...but then I go back to the CL final played at Real's home stadium . If CE has been deliberately not trying previously because he wanted to sign for Real , then he surely would have made every possible effort to shine on that day (full throttle in the shop window) ...

...but no , he was in his usual quietish form , no change discernible .

 

[buckley]

The point is that if this is his now normal form then I believe we can do and will do better.