Dier: Football needs feisty derby games

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Tottenham midfielder Eric Dier says football needs games like the feisty north London derby with Arsenal.

Source: BT Sport
 

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Well, Eric, what was needed was cool heads and slowing down their play with all sorts of black arts. None of this happened.
 

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Loved his celebration and the reaction in the away end. Somebody tell me what was the difference between Dier and Ambeyang goading of the Spurs fans after his 1st goal. We’re always the bad guys!!! Roll on the next few weeks and we’ll see those muppets again! Bring on the lap of honour and dressing room selfies!!!!!
 

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Loved his celebration and the reaction in the away end. Somebody tell me what was the difference between Dier and Ambeyang goading of the Spurs fans after his 1st goal. We’re always the bad guys!!! Roll on the next few weeks and we’ll see those muppets again! Bring on the lap of honour and dressing room selfies!!!!!
Have they been taking dressing room selfies again?
 

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The problem is Dier getting feisty usually results in us not getting the result we want. He’s turned into a motivator for the other team

The fact he told Ramsey to get back on the bench and he comes off it to make two goals can’t be lost on him
 
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The problem is Dier getting feisty usually results in us not getting the result we want. He’s turned into a motivator for the other team

The fact he told Ramsey to get bench on the back on the bench and he comes off it to make two goals can’t be lost on him
In the last 'feisty'
Battle of the Bridge
we gave up a two goal lead
and Dier was prominent
in the 'feistiness'

Same again we were ahead
and lost the second half 3-0.
Dier again feisty monger in chief.

Go figure.
Let the football do the talking.
We have the players.
Even Dele has tamed his wasteful 'feist'
 

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It was great theatre and the gooners were really up for their cup final, well until they went behind.
Result aside it was one of the games of the season.

And these are the games arsenal fans want to leave behind when they are summoned up to the euro league.
 

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It was great theatre and the gooners were really up for their cup final, well until they went behind.
Result aside it was one of the games of the season.

And these are the games arsenal fans want to leave behind when they are summoned up to the euro league.
I don't understand this at all. May have been one of the games of the season for Arsenal fans and neutrals, but it was an absolute shocker for us. Arsenal battered us for most of the game.

Being "entertaining" is not always a compliment. The Battle of the Bridge was "entertaining" - but mainly for everyone else. Still surprised people can't see that our indiscipline can cost us game - some seem too busy enjoying the fisticuffs. I'd prefer to win the game myself.
 

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It's not as if we are
a team that gets bullied anymore.
Dembele, Dier, Wanyama Sissoko
Verts, Toby, Aurier, Davies,
HK, Dele
can and do stand up for themselves
and give as good as they get.
It's a diversion.
 

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We looked tired all thru the game. So I welcomed a bit of argy bargy at the time thinking it would wake us up. It didn't.

The 2 subs at HT won them the game. It says a lot about their manager and that worries me.
 

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I don't understand this at all. May have been one of the games of the season for Arsenal fans and neutrals, but it was an absolute shocker for us. Arsenal battered us for most of the game.

Being "entertaining" is not always a compliment. The Battle of the Bridge was "entertaining" - but mainly for everyone else. Still surprised people can't see that our indiscipline can cost us game - some seem too busy enjoying the fisticuffs. I'd prefer to win the game myself.
For me the Ars game was completely different to The Battle of the Bridge. We were pretty much off the pace for the entire game v Woolwich and I didnt enjoy it very much

At the bridge I thought we were fantastic 1st half and then Hazard woke up for his 1 game of that season and was World Class (unfortunately!)

Yes they wound us up and we bit but it was Hazards class that got them a point and we just couldnt stop him, however we tried! Also think we put a huge amount into that 1st hour and ran out of steam a bit which was understandable. Fair play to Chelscum coming back but imo we didnt throw 2 points away that night, chelsea clawed them back

Loved the game at SB
 

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I think the lesson to learn is that when "feisty" becomes "losing control" of a game, we don't need it. We managed to turn the Arsenal game in our favor a little by using Son as an outlet and capitalizing on their daft mistakes (like the free kick give away for Dier's goal, and the pen). But we didn't turn that into a tactical shift in the game because we got busily involved in some nonsense and never really looked in control of the game. It still bites that we allowed their wingback system to dominate so much, and for Emery to be the pro-active game winner. WHen Plan A isn't working, we don't need feistiness to get back into it, we need controlled and smart aggression to turn the tide.
 

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For me the Ars game was completely different to The Battle of the Bridge. We were pretty much off the pace for the entire game v Woolwich and I didnt enjoy it very much

At the bridge I thought we were fantastic 1st half and then Hazard woke up for his 1 game of that season and was World Class (unfortunately!)

Yes they wound us up and we bit but it was Hazards class that got them a point and we just couldnt stop him, however we tried! Also think we put a huge amount into that 1st hour and ran out of steam a bit which was understandable. Fair play to Chelscum coming back but imo we didnt throw 2 points away that night, chelsea clawed them back

Loved the game at SB
I agree with your first point. It was a completely different game. We were shite against Arsenal but good against Chelsea till we chucked it away. I disagree with the second though – we very much chucked it away. Hazard was great but we just completely lost it.
 

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Arse battered us because they didn't have a game midweek (it was their reserves), they hadn't just come off the back of two intense high profile must win games. At the end some of our players looked spent. They were the better team on the day, but that doesn't mean they are a better team overall. It's weird, they have turned into West Ham, and this is their cup final, their game, their performance of the season. We'll destroy them at 'home'.
 

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Arse battered us because they didn't have a game midweek (it was their reserves), they hadn't just come off the back of two intense high profile must win games. At the end some of our players looked spent. They were the better team on the day, but that doesn't mean they are a better team overall. It's weird, they have turned into West Ham, and this is their cup final, their game, their performance of the season. We'll destroy them at 'home'.
This is definitely a factor. It also means they'll be up for these games big time as they mean more and more to them.

I think the reason for so much post analysis is ultimately who we lost to. The real power shift hasn't actually happened but it hurts to be shown so off the pace.
 
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