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Danny Rose 'can't wait' to quit football because of racism

poc

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I agree with some of what he says around authorities and how race issues are dealt with but in all honesty if it's that bad just hang the boots up and go. Especially given his mental health issues I'm sure he has made enough to live a comfortable life.
 

Coyboy

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As usual the press focus on the more outlandish/ throwaway remark to distract from the main point Rose was making (in a wonderfully dry Yorkshire manner): that fines for racism are pointless.

The frustrated point about looking forward to retiring is going to be misinterpreted by the [RW]M and gammons as ungrateful, churlish and selfish as he's a lucky millionaire doing what loads of people would kill to do etc etc and the problem persists.
 

UbeAstard

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I agree with some of what he says around authorities and how race issues are dealt with but in all honesty if it's that bad just hang the boots up and go. Especially given his mental health issues I'm sure he has made enough to live a comfortable life.

If its that bad the authorities should be made aware of how its effecting players so they can do something about it, 'just hang the boots up and go...' gets a dislike from me.
 

poc

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If its that bad the authorities should be made aware of how its effecting players so they can do something about it, 'just hang the boots up and go...' gets a dislike from me.
Good for you lol. My feeling is don't do something purely to get paid for.5 it 6 years left as it was put if you are not enjoying your job. I would tell the same to someone in any walk of life.
 

JC-Rule

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I agree with some of what he says around authorities and how race issues are dealt with but in all honesty if it's that bad just hang the boots up and go. Especially given his mental health issues I'm sure he has made enough to live a comfortable life.

So let the racist win then?

Come on mate, surely you can't mean that!
 

poc

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So let the racist win then?

Come on mate, surely you can't mean that!
No I don't. If that is how it is coming across then that is writing text for you instead of having a chat.

I do believe that people shouldn't sit and stay in environments that make themselves unhappy to the extent it reads in the article. Like I said he has recently had what was it depression? That is not a good combination. I added a bit to my reply to mr angry also which maybe provides a tiny bit of context. If I assume he is only talking about racism and authorities dealing with in terms of eastern Europe (or maybe the city/Chelsea couple of incidents) then that is a small part of his career I would of hoped he could balance that against what is happening in 99% of his career and maybe not be so unhappy with his lot in life that he cant wait to see the back of it.
 

JC-Rule

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No I don't. If that is how it is coming across then that is writing text for you instead of having a chat.

I do believe that people shouldn't sit and stay in environments that make themselves unhappy to the extent it reads in the article. Like I said he has recently had what was it depression? That is not a good combination. I added a bit to my reply to mr angry also which maybe provides a tiny bit of context. If I assume he is only talking about racism and authorities dealing with in terms of eastern Europe (or maybe the city/Chelsea couple of incidents) then that is a small part of his career I would of hoped he could balance that against what is happening in 99% of his career and maybe not be so unhappy with his lot in life that he cant wait to see the back of it.

Ok mate, I think I see where you are coming from, but I would challenge you by saying, his recent issues with depression, shouldn't be referenced at all, this is not relevant to his point of wanting out. A black player with no history of depression could site the same feelings.

Also, Rose is not making himself unhappy, he is unhappy with the environment that is purely toxic, all because of his race. So to suggest he shouldn't sit and stay, maybe the wrong choice of words.

You are right, text may not be the best place to wok through the nuances of this issue.

But the main point is this, it's the racist we want out of football, not players who suffer at the hand of racist.

On this point, I'm hopeful we can agree.
 

poc

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Ok mate, I think I see where you are coming from, but I would challenge you by saying, his recent issues with depression, shouldn't be referenced at all, this is not relevant to his point of wanting out. A black player with no history of depression could site the same feelings.

Also, Rose is not making himself unhappy, he is unhappy with the environment that purely toxic, all because of his race. So to suggest he shouldn't sit and stay, maybe the wrong choice of words.

You are right, text may not be the best place to wok through the nuances of this issue.

But the main point is this, it's the racist we want out of football, not players who suffer at the hand of racist.

On this point, I'm hopeful we can agree.

Yes we defo agree on the last point. Its just the tarnishing of your career in your own mind because of a tiny handful of fucking idiots and the politics above that at international level is not healthy for a person imo. If he was saying he felt that way about playing internationally for England and that Fifa and Uefa and even occassionaly the FA handled things badly I would totally understand and agree.
 

UbeAstard

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Good for you lol. My feeling is don't do something purely to get paid for.5 it 6 years left as it was put if you are not enjoying your job. I would tell the same to someone in any walk of life.

So if I am being racially abused (illegal) which affects my enjoyment of the job, the first thing you would do is tell me to quit?
 
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Shadydan

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I agree with some of what he says around authorities and how race issues are dealt with but in all honesty if it's that bad just hang the boots up and go. Especially given his mental health issues I'm sure he has made enough to live a comfortable life.

I don't think it's as easy as hanging up your boots mate.
 

Dennism

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Danny has every right to say what he feels. There is loads of hypocrisy in football and certainly within our FA. They rightly criticise Montenegro yet persistently ignore the enduring racism at clubs like Chelsea and West Ham.
 

double0

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There are certain things the general public ain’t ready for the obvious one is facing racism. Rose is probably saying what many other black and mixed race players are thinking... should all black and mixed race players just walk away?
 

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Danny has every right to say what he feels. There is loads of hypocrisy in football and certainly within our FA. They rightly criticise Montenegro yet persistently ignore the enduring racism at clubs like Chelsea and West Ham.
This is the point in it all. The hypocrisy and tokenism of a financial penalty is just that.

Danny Rose, is one of few players that is truly worth listening to when he has something to say.
 

Dennism

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I fully agree with and sympathise with what Danny is saying. However, I worry that the FA will use it to their own advantage. It allows them to focus their attention on the racism against black players in foreign countries like Montenegro. This allows them to avoid taking action against the racism from the fans of British teams. In particular it allows them to ignore the persistent anti-semitism that Spurs suffer. Thus they can avoid punishing the worst offenders like West Ham and Chelsea. The way they protect these clubs is frankly disgusting.
 

Lenn0n

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We might be able to eliminate/supress racist chanting. The unfortunate thing is the racist sentiment will still lurk in these pathetic people - whether it's chanted out or not. It's the racist attitude that is truly dangerous.

We should seek to eliminate racism - not just the vocalisation of racism. Whilst the vocalisation is unacceptable, at least when these idiots chant we can see where they are. With modern technology and facial recognition, knowing who is sitting where, we ought to be able to identify these people, and then make it very difficult for them to get into football grounds. That would be a result!

On the plus side for Danny, he has thousands of people who idolise him. He is a fantastic footballer. I hope Danny can see his way to enjoying football again, and whilst in his current good form continue playing for Spurs. I for one am always pleased when I see his name on the team sheet.

PS

Im impressed with 'Sterlings' recent purchase of 550 tickets for the children at his old school. Its a fantastic gesture. It surrounds him in a good vibe. Its a thoroughly positive thing to do. Im not suggesting Danny Rose or anyone else should necessarily follow suit - but it establishes an example of getting on the front foot.
 
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