Comolli has a pop at Ramos

[guiltyparty]

In the Mail...

My personal favourite bit:

‘One thing that worried me straight away after we appointed him from Sevilla was something their sporting director Monchi told me,’ said Comolli, 41.

‘He was a friend of mine, so I rang and apologised for taking their manager halfway through the season.

'He said that the coach from their reserve team was probably better than Ramos and that we’d soon find out he’s not the reason for the club’s success.’

If he was a friend he might have been worth a call before you hired him, no? Thought this guy was a top scout?

‘I lost my job because of him'

Or through your lack of due diligence, whichever way you want to look at it. Bare japes

Rest here, tho it's all very familiar - trained players so hard they died, wanted to sign Messi, that kind of thing: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...sions-awful-Comolli-hits-claims-old-boss.html

 

[robin09]

The most shocking thing in that article, is the picture of the signings. I didn't recognise who Chris Gunter was, and still have no recollection of him at Spurs.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

‘He was a friend of mine, so I rang and apologised for taking their manager halfway through the season.

'He said that the coach from their reserve team was probably better than Ramos and that we’d soon find out he’s not the reason for the club’s success.’

If he was a friend he might have been worth a call before you hired him, no? Thought this guy was a top scout?

‘I lost my job because of him'

Or through your lack of due diligence, whichever way you want to look at it. Bare japes

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I'm not going to dig him out for it, although he probably deserves it, but when you get people appointing a manager and almost immediately there's a falling out over signings/targets and then you read something like this, it seems like it isn't a one-off.

I reckon there are all sorts of pretty obvious conversations that don't take place and not just at Spurs. It's what you read behind the lines when you see shit like this that is the most worrying.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

'When you interview a manager or a potential candidate you put the culture of your club, what you’re about, on the table straight away. '

'We made it clear to him we couldn’t afford to buy stars, we wanted to make them. We couldn’t compete with Chelsea or Manchester United like that. He said, “No problem, I’m good at that”.

'He mentioned he was the coach of Barcelona B. Then as soon as he came in, he said, “I want Samuel Eto’o and David Villa”. He wasn’t interested in young players at all.’

This, I am inclined to believe completely, and I'd suggest that the situation was similar with AVB unfortunately. Everyone who has a pop at DL for not backing managers with big signings really need to understand that the managers are very much aware when they join that they will be getting potentially great players along, not ready made superstars. The fact that DL has managed to provide VDV and Lloris in recent years says only that, when there is an opportunity because of a variety of unlikely circumstances falling into place, he will take it, and we should be grateful for that. But we are just not in a position to challenge Man U, Chelsea, City, Arsenal and probably even Liverpool for the players available to them if they want those players. Throw in Madrid, Barcelona, PSG and Monaco and that effectively rules us out each summer for roughly the top 18 sought after players in each position in the world at least up until deadline day.

I want to remember Ramos fondly, in the same way that I want to remember AVB fondly, but the more and more that comes out, the less affection I can have for them and their times at Spurs.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I love the way the article is ended with Comolli claiming he's always protected Ramos's good name. Nice touch.

Comolli being a little bit economical with the truth there. The fact that we sold Keane, then Berbatov at the last minute and brought in Frazier Campbell, and Comolli had already wasted 32m on Bent and Bentley didn't exactly help matters.

Ramos also requested we sign Modric, possibly the most significant signing we've made in the last 30 years.


And Redknapp wasn't beyond demanding the ridiculous at times either "Tevez was doable".


The whole communication thing has seemed strained with all our last few managers. You had Jol at odds with Comolli, Ramos, Comolli and Levy all at odds now it seems, Redknapp and Levy at odds. AVB at odds with Levy and maybe Baldini.

You would think a chairman, DOF and coach could sit round a table together and agree some sort of strategy. The coach could understand that he might ask for a bobby dazzler occasionally but that it might not be possible, and that we want to integrate development players as much as possible, the DOF and coach talk about what type of player is needed and work down the wish list together, the chairman explain to both the fiscal realities and when it might be possible to do a good deal for a quality player etc etc etc.

And why does Levy continually insist on foisting assistant's on his coach, Poyet on Ramos (maybe language thing in this case ?), Freund on AVB for example ? It just pisses them off.

As for the training thing, Ramos inherited a group whose fitness in games under Jol was abysmal at times. I thought the rumour was he stopped cracking the whip after the CC win. Personally I think he should have kept it up. I don't think our injury list was ever any worse under Ramos.

The whole communication with the players thing was not great by the sounds of it though.

From what I can remember Jenas said he liked the extra fitness conditioning, it was wankers like Bentley complaining that it was getting in the way of his fag breaks and kicking balls into skips and shit.

 

[rabbikeane]

Jol, Comolli, Ramos, Poyet, Redknapp
They are all blaming others for what happened at Spurs,
never taking any themselves. Wouldn't put any faith in what they say about their time end here.

 

[Spurvert]

I'm absolutely astounded at the lack of due dilligence by Comolli. He should have known better and I'm sure he's learned from this

Ultimately, though, you never know how little impact a negative reference from Comolli would have had on Levy's decision to appoint him

But still, the fact he called his friend there AFTER we'd appointed him is ridiculous

 

[Syn_13]

In the Mail...

My personal favourite bit:

‘One thing that worried me straight away after we appointed him from Sevilla was something their sporting director Monchi told me,’ said Comolli, 41.

‘He was a friend of mine, so I rang and apologised for taking their manager halfway through the season.

'He said that the coach from their reserve team was probably better than Ramos and that we’d soon find out he’s not the reason for the club’s success.’

If he was a friend he might have been worth a call before you hired him, no? Thought this guy was a top scout?

‘I lost my job because of him'

Or through your lack of due diligence, whichever way you want to look at it. Bare japes

Rest here, tho it's all very familiar - trained players so hard they died, wanted to sign Messi, that kind of thing: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...sions-awful-Comolli-hits-claims-old-boss.html

Two images in that article are great. There's one of Comolli reaching into his jacket, looks like he's reach for a gun to end it all. The response is the Redknapp one above him.

 

[OmarsComing]

I love the way the article is ended with Comolli claiming he's always protected Ramos's good name. Nice touch.

Comolli being a little bit economical with the truth there. The fact that we sold Keane, then Berbatov at the last minute and brought in Frazier Campbell, and Comolli had already wasted 32m on Bent and Bentley didn't exactly help matters.

Ramos also requested we sign Modric, possibly the most significant signing we've made in the last 30 years.


And Redknapp wasn't beyond demanding the ridiculous at times either "Tevez was doable".


The whole communication thing has seemed strained with all our last few managers. You had Jol at odds with Comolli, Ramos, Comolli and Levy all at odds now it seems, Redknapp and Levy at odds. AVB at odds with Levy and maybe Baldini.

You would think a chairman, DOF and coach could sit round a table together and agree some sort of strategy. The coach could understand that he might ask for a bobby dazzler occasionally but that it might not be possible, and that we want to integrate development players as much as possible, the DOF and coach talk about what type of player is needed and work down the wish list together, the chairman explain to both the fiscal realities and when it might be possible to do a good deal for a quality player etc etc etc.

And why does Levy continually insist on foisting assistant's on his coach, Poyet on Ramos (maybe language thing in this case ?), Freund on AVB for example ? It just pisses them off.

As for the training thing, Ramos inherited a group whose fitness in games under Jol was abysmal at times. I thought the rumour was he stopped cracking the whip after the CC win. Personally I think he should have kept it up. I don't think our injury list was ever any worse under Ramos.

The whole communication with the players thing was not great by the sounds of it though.

From what I can remember Jenas said he liked the extra fitness conditioning, it was wankers like Bentley complaining that it was getting in the way of his fag breaks and kicking balls into skips and shit.

Pretty certain Bale>Modric in terms of significance and I'm also pretty certain they speak Spanish in Uruguay.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Pretty certain Bale>Modric in terms of significance and I'm also pretty certain they speak Spanish in Uruguay.

In terms of impact on this club over a period time, Modric pisses it for me. I still think he was the single biggest individual factor in us getting CL football, despite him being out for a few weeks that season.

 

[OmarsComing]

In terms of impact on this club over a period time, Modric pisses it for me. I still think he was the single biggest individual factor in us getting CL football, despite him being out for a few weeks that season.

You just like to be different in your opinion and you were absolutely in love with Modric when he was here - even more so that the rest of us - but Bale>Modric in transfer significance, on the pitch significance and virtually everything else that is significant.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

You just like to be different in your opinion and you were absolutely in love with Modric when he was here - even more so that the rest of us - but Bale>Modric in transfer significance, on the pitch significance and virtually everything else that is significant.

I have no idea how many people share my view about Modric, so have no idea if it's different or not. But I would suggest I'm not completely alone. I accept that Modric didn't swing from chandeliers with a banana up his arse the same way Bale did for a season, but his influence though quieter and more subtle was further reaching in terms of it's effect on all the players around him and it was for the entire duration (4 years ?) he was here. Bale kind of went from 3 or 4 years of being a very exciting but inconsistent left winger to being a world beating wide forward in one one season. His influence that one season probably eclipsed any of Modric's in isolation, but as a whole I still think Modric's overall influence was greater during a longer phase.

 

[Jamturk]

I have no idea how many people share my view about Modric, so have no idea if it's different or not. But I would suggest I'm not completely alone. I accept that Modric didn't swing from chandeliers with a banana up his arse the same way Bale did for a season, but his influence though quieter and more subtle was further reaching in terms of it's effect on all the players around him and it was for the entire duration (4 years ?) he was here. Bale kind of went from 3 or 4 years of being a very exciting but inconsistent left winger to being a world beating wide forward in one one season. His influence that one season probably eclipsed any of Modric's in isolation, but as a whole I still think Modric's overall influence was greater during a longer phase.

I agree with this,

Last season we were the "1 man team" being rescued by Bale interventions.

When Modric was here we were a real team, playing good football, don't forget the King and vDv influence. through the spine of the team.

 

[Imnotacticalgenius]

In the Mail...

My personal favourite bit:

‘One thing that worried me straight away after we appointed him from Sevilla was something their sporting director Monchi told me,’ said Comolli, 41.

‘He was a friend of mine, so I rang and apologised for taking their manager halfway through the season.

'He said that the coach from their reserve team was probably better than Ramos and that we’d soon find out he’s not the reason for the club’s success.’

If he was a friend he might have been worth a call before you hired him, no? Thought this guy was a top scout?

‘I lost my job because of him'

Or through your lack of due diligence, whichever way you want to look at it. Bare japes

Rest here, tho it's all very familiar - trained players so hard they died, wanted to sign Messi, that kind of thing: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...sions-awful-Comolli-hits-claims-old-boss.html

Hmm, i wonder is this so-called better coach is Manuel Jimenez....The Sevilla B team coach who took over coach of Sevilla from Ramos. From what i can remember, he was sacked in 2010, without winning anything. After a stint in Greece, he took over Real Zaragoza at the end of 2011, but was sacked by the end of last season. So time actually shown that Ramos is better....Now, seem like that Sporting Director is just as sour as Camolli is......

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Pretty certain Bale>Modric in terms of significance and I'm also pretty certain they speak Spanish in Uruguay.

Remiss of Britain not to take over the whole World and make sure all peoples speak English.

 

[UncleBuck]

What's Commolli up to now? Think he's got a bit too much time on his hands....
Let it go son, it was a long time ago and quite frankly a lot of people probably don't give a XXXX now.....

 

[midspur]

The most shocking thing in that article, is the picture of the signings. I didn't recognise who Chris Gunter was, and still have no recollection of him at Spurs.

He was the new Messi!!