Clattenburg resigns!

[Disconosebleed]

How can you not get it? He was rolling the ball around in his hand and a free kick wasn't given. Yes, play to the whistle - but the fact that the whistle didn't go is my issue. Obviously Gomes was a fucking idiot, but Clattenburg should have given the free kick, obviously.

Why would the whistle go? Gomes had the ball. The referee shouldn't retroactively award the free kick because Gomes made a mistake. As infuriating as that goal was, Clattenburg was just about the only person that did nothing wrong - Gomes was stupid, Nani was unsporting, Clattenburg simply let the game continue as he should have done, given that Gomes had the ball safely in his grasp.

Clattenburg isn't particularly likeable, but he's been a fantastic referee.

 

[Spurrific]

Why would the whistle go? Gomes had the ball. The referee shouldn't retroactively award the free kick because Gomes made a mistake. As infuriating as that goal was, Clattenburg was just about the only person that did nothing wrong - Gomes was stupid, Nani was unsporting, Clattenburg simply let the game continue as he should have done, given that Gomes had the ball safely in his grasp.

I'm not saying he should have retroactively awarded a free kick, I'm saying he should have given the free kick when Nani picked the ball up and started spinning it on his finger like a basketball. As I've said in subsequent posts, Gomes is at fault, but Clattenburg should have blown up for a free kick and booked Nani, either for the disgusting dive or for travelling.

 

[nightgoat]

I'm not saying he should have retroactively awarded a free kick, I'm saying he should have given the free kick when Nani picked the ball up and started spinning it on his finger like a basketball. As I've said in subsequent posts, Gomes is at fault, but Clattenburg should have blown up for a free kick and booked Nani, either for the disgusting dive or for travelling.

Or both. The dive and the deliberate handball were both bookable offences yet he gets away with both and is awarded a fraudulent goal on top of it.

 

[scat1620]

If Mike Dean ever follows in Clattenberg's footsteps and heads to Saudi (or China, or wherever), I have full confidence that Levy will successfully get us a fee that reflects Dean's value to our side.

That said, after the summer 2016 window I don't necessarily have confidence that our scouts will be able to use that money to sign a new referee of the required quality to replace Dean in our setup.

 

[Oscar22]

Never understood the stick he got over the tattoos, regardless of what you think of tattoos in general or his particular designs it's not like he's the first person ever to get an achievement he's proud of made in to a tattoo.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Good riddance, like Webb he was of the "make shit decisions authoritatively and everyone thinks your a great ref" school.

I was listening to them talking about this on 5-Live daily podcast a couple of days ago and Jenas was bitching about arrogant refs who won't talk to players, such a load of bollocks, I don't want refs being nice to players, players just need to grow the fuck up, stop bitching about - and being allowed to bitch about - decisions, like petulant children, I'm not surprised the odd ref is condescending towards them. And even then I can't think of too many who are.

FIFA's failure to get to grips with how they allow referees to be treated is a fucking disgrace, and filters down through every level of football, and the is pitiful for the hundreds of thousands of kid's and Sunday league ref's who get treated like shit just for giving up their time for fuck all.

 

[mightyspur]

Good riddance, like Webb he was of the "make shit decisions authoritatively and everyone thinks your a great ref" school.

I was listening to them talking about this on 5-Live daily podcast a couple of days ago and Jenas was bitching about arrogant refs who won't talk to players, such a load of bollocks, I don't want refs being nice to players, players just need to grow the fuck up, stop bitching about - and being allowed to bitch about - decisions, like petulant children, I'm not surprised the odd ref is condescending towards them. And even then I can't think of too many who are.

FIFA's failure to get to grips with how they allow referees to be treated is a fucking disgrace, and filters down through every level of football, and the is pitiful for the hundreds of thousands of kid's and Sunday league ref's who get treated like shit just for giving up their time for fuck all.

Why shouldn't refs be nice to players? Respect works both ways.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

Good riddance, like Webb he was of the "make shit decisions authoritatively and everyone thinks your a great ref" school.

I was listening to them talking about this on 5-Live daily podcast a couple of days ago and Jenas was bitching about arrogant refs who won't talk to players, such a load of bollocks, I don't want refs being nice to players, players just need to grow the fuck up, stop bitching about - and being allowed to bitch about - decisions, like petulant children, I'm not surprised the odd ref is condescending towards them. And even then I can't think of too many who are.

FIFA's failure to get to grips with how they allow referees to be treated is a fucking disgrace, and filters down through every level of football, and the is pitiful for the hundreds of thousands of kid's and Sunday league ref's who get treated like shit just for giving up their time for fuck all.

When I reffed I always tried to speak to players / managers before and after the game and communicate with players during the game. It helped a lot. Before I took the course I thought I knew a lot more than I did, this seems to be the norm with players and pundits that they don't know the laws of the game.

Collina was a ref I thought made a lot more cock ups than were ever made a fuss off i just felt his presence on the field was enough to see him through, that and he took no shit from players.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Why shouldn't refs be nice to players? Respect works both ways.

Refs are already far, far more respectful of players than players are of them.

Yet we have to listen to players bitch about refs not talking to them? Jenas was moaning saying some refs won't even talk to players, be honest and explain on the pitch when they get things wrong, but how often does a player ever say "no ref, don't give me a free kick, I wasn't fouled" or "you need to blow there ref I've just fouled him" it's just bollocks.

I'm all for making refs assessable and answerable, but on the pitch I want their authority to be unquestioned, no dialogue is necessary other than explaining what he's given and why.

And I don't want that other old bullshit chestnut of "common sense" applied either. The sooner football starts just applying an unequivocal letter of law, punishing offences properly without prejudice, using technology etc, and we can eradicate the vagaries of human judgement and start blaming the real culprits of fouling and cheating, the players.

 

[mightyspur]

Refs are already far, far more respectful of players than players are of them.

Yet we have to listen to players bitch about refs not talking to them? Jenas was moaning saying some refs won't even talk to players, be honest and explain on the pitch when they get things wrong, but how often does a player ever say "no ref, don't give me a free kick, I wasn't fouled" or "you need to blow there ref I've just fouled him" it's just bollocks.

I'm all for making refs assessable and answerable, but on the pitch I want their authority to be unquestioned, no dialogue is necessary other than explaining what he's given and why.

And I don't want that other old bullshit chestnut of "common sense" applied either. The sooner football starts just applying an unequivocal letter of law, punishing offences properly without prejudice, using technology etc, and we can eradicate the vagaries of human judgement and start blaming the real culprits of fouling and cheating, the players.

I don't disagree with anything you have said there, but a ref should be speaking to the players. You even said it yourself that they should explain what was given and why.

I wish PGMOL would allow refs to book players that show even the slightest bit of dissent that is directed at the referee. There was supposed to be a big crackdown this season, but it seems to have tailed off quite a bit with players falling into their old habits. If players know they can chat shit and get away with it, they will.

 

[Dougal]

Now he's staying until the end of the season. Fucker can never get a decision right, even when he quits.

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[spurs9]

Refs are already far, far more respectful of players than players are of them.

Yet we have to listen to players bitch about refs not talking to them? Jenas was moaning saying some refs won't even talk to players, be honest and explain on the pitch when they get things wrong, but how often does a player ever say "no ref, don't give me a free kick, I wasn't fouled" or "you need to blow there ref I've just fouled him" it's just bollocks.

I'm all for making refs assessable and answerable, but on the pitch I want their authority to be unquestioned, no dialogue is necessary other than explaining what he's given and why.

And I don't want that other old bullshit chestnut of "common sense" applied either. The sooner football starts just applying an unequivocal letter of law, punishing offences properly without prejudice, using technology etc, and we can eradicate the vagaries of human judgement and start blaming the real culprits of fouling and cheating, the players.

I agree, but isn't the bold what Jenas was talking about (I didn't hear it,so I don't know)?

Football needs to take notes on how how Rugby refs do things (especially in NZ and Australia), they take no shit, will happily explain to the captain of each team (and only them) what will happen if they don't stop infringing a particular way in the play etc.

100% agree about the "common sense" part of your post too, especially when their "common sense" leads to two identical incidents being treated the completely different in the same game.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Refs are already far, far more respectful of players than players are of them.

Yet we have to listen to players bitch about refs not talking to them? Jenas was moaning saying some refs won't even talk to players, be honest and explain on the pitch when they get things wrong, but how often does a player ever say "no ref, don't give me a free kick, I wasn't fouled" or "you need to blow there ref I've just fouled him" it's just bollocks.

I'm all for making refs assessable and answerable, but on the pitch I want their authority to be unquestioned, no dialogue is necessary other than explaining what he's given and why.

And I don't want that other old bullshit chestnut of "common sense" applied either. The sooner football starts just applying an unequivocal letter of law, punishing offences properly without prejudice, using technology etc, and we can eradicate the vagaries of human judgement and start blaming the real culprits of fouling and cheating, the players.

Absolutely hate it when refs appear to be too matey with particular players.
Also what do managers expect the 4th official to do when they rant at them after a decision goes against them? say "oh hang on ref, Jurgen just told that you should have given them a penalty so it must have been, quick change your mind"

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Now he's staying until the end of the season. Fucker can never get a decision right, even when he quits.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...bc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

First example of the FA over ruling a decision made by a referee? What a time to be alive.