Christian Pulisic

[heelspurs]

I took it as a joke at spurs' expense, that because spurs haven't made any moves, the transfer rumor forum has been reduced to discussing hypothetical Liverpool formations

If that is the case then I take back my earlier criticism of the post...and fully concur with this 'new', more frustration induced, interpretation.

 

[ItsBoris]

I agree with this and I'd argue the 4-2-3-1 system was what they played when Coutinho was here was the reason they consistently had high scoring games where they dropped points as they were trying to having the attacking prowess of the 4-3-3 without the defensive responsibility. I wouldn't be all that surprised to see the same happen again if they sign Fekir.

Could also be because they signed a huge upgrade at center back right after Coutinho left.

 

[ItsBoris]

That’s very reductionist and not really how those tactics work.

Going from a somewhat flatter 4-3-3 to a system you just suggested changes a whole lot of things. Lanes that Salah and Mane run into for example. The pressing positions - especially for an aggressive press like Liverpool’s. There’s really a massive shift going from the formation they’re running to the one you’re suggesting. Your idea that the only concern is what the two midfielders cover to me is a bit strange and as I said very reductionist. It’s like everyone who believes a back 3 formation means you’re automatically playing defensive “because there are three defenders”.

Edit: I actually thought of a better example to illustrate this.

Liverpool’s flat 4-3-3 allows them to use their quick counterpress system because they can have a numbers and pace advantage up top. Typically with Mane and Salah. The reason they can do this is a 3 man midfield means one mid shields the center area and the other two can help prevent overloads on the high pressing fullback/wingbacks by spreading out wide in defensive situations. This means players like Salah and Mane can have reduced defensive duties to attack with.

Your system puts those defensive duties back on Salah and Mane to help cover the wide areas of their fullback/wingbacks. Which then obviously reduces the ability for them to be further forward when there pressing actions gain possession.

Klopp played the same pressing system with varying success at Dortmund mostly using a 4-2-3-1 formation, with a midfield of Gundogan and Bender in the 2013 Champions league final, for example. We play a pretty effective pressing game and normally play a 4-2-3-1 formation so I don't find the argument that the formation itself limits the tactics to be very compelling. My point was that they signed 2 new players who are, imo, a lot smarter defensively than their current midfield, which may allow them to change the team's shape without altering their general strategy (although of course the specific tactics would have to change).

I guess this is really all academic but you haven't convinced me that a 4-2-3-1 formation wouldn't work for them if they added Pulisic.

 

[RichieS]

We'll still keep them behind us, it's tradition now.

Wanyama
Lamela - Eriksen
Lucas - Kane - Son​

There is no way that Lamela plays in that system ahead of Dele. And this is the Pulisic thread - where does he fit in there? Back-up (but very different) to Son?

 

[Hakkz]

The Liverpool Discussion Thread

There you go people.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Assist on bvb's first pre-season goal:

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Assist on bvb's first pre-season goal:

Alexander Isak looks over the moon to have scored that

 

[Hazelton]

Time to go all in on this lad, I think.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Time to go all in on this lad, I think.

Yes fucking please

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Time to go all in on this lad, I think.

Coincidentally he will be in America next week...but on the east coast.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Coincidentally he will be in America next week...but on the east coast.

Selfish prickfuck

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Dortmund play Man City tomorrow (Saturday Early Morning) in Chicago, 3:00 AM London time i think.

 

[Univarn]

Coincidentally he will be in America next week...but on the east coast.

On my coast and in my home state, bout a 3 hour drive, so I'll swing by and sort things out. Anyone got a chloroform rag and some rope?

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Selfish prickfuck

East Coast v. West Coast = serious business

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

On my coast and in my home state, bout a 3 hour drive, so I'll swing by and sort things out. Anyone got a chloroform rag and some rope?

You are in Carolina, right?

 

[Univarn]

You are in Carolina, right?

Yup

 

[Davo99]

This is who I’m hoping for, even over Martial in the first place. It does feel unrealistic if you consider how much he will likely cost, but German sides don’t really seem to get that much for their better players.

 

[Scissors&Tape]

Time to go all in on this lad, I think.

Given how savvy his parents have been about his longterm development, i really think that, rather than money, its going to come down to whether they think his development will be better as a consistent starter at dortmund or as a rotational player under poch.

 

[heelspurs]

Just scored his second vs Liverpool after a brilliant bit of passing by BVB's second team players, from goal to goal.

Edit: and just set up their third after a nice bit out on the wing.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Just scored his second vs Liverpool after a brilliant bit of passing by BVB's second team players, from goal to goal.

Edit: and just set up their third after a nice bit out on the wing.

Missed opportunity for Spurs.