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heelspurs

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BVB v S04

Must have been a cracker. BVB go up 4-0 in the first only to do a Liverpool and allow Schalke to salvage a point at the Signal Iduna. Bosz has surely got to go now.
 

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Must have been a cracker. BVB go up 4-0 in the first only to do a Liverpool and allow Schalke to salvage a point at the Signal Iduna. Bosz has surely got to go now.

I dodn't see the game either, but I took a lot of flak for saying how disappointed I was with Dortmund against us the other night. The most abject Dortmund I've seen for years.

It was a strange choice of coach wasn't it ? He seemed to want his Ajax to play that more patient, constructed, possession type game, but Dortmund are built to be more explosive, transitionally. I don't know why they didn't make more of an effort to accommodate Tuchel, he was a much better match I thought.
 

heelspurs

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I dodn't see the game either, but I took a lot of flak for saying how disappointed I was with Dortmund against us the other night. The most abject Dortmund I've seen for years.

It was a strange choice of coach wasn't it ? He seemed to want his Ajax to play that more patient, constructed, possession type game, but Dortmund are built to be more explosive, transitionally. I don't know why they didn't make more of an effort to accommodate Tuchel, he was a much better match I thought.
I'm about to download it watch a recording on my personal DVR in a bit.

I didn't watch much Ajax last year so wasn't too familiar with Bosz's system. I think I only watched the Lyon-EL semis. But i do agree with you that BVB do look poor. I watched a game or two before our 1st CL game and was very confident that we could do them. And that was when their attack was functioning. Now that they are poor in both attack and defense I can't see them persisting with him. But what alternatives are there for them?
 

Janice

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I say well done bendesliga for using video refereeing!

Shalke had a goal chalked off retrospecitvely like we should have against arsenal

Great to see

Shame schalke didnt win,because of that though
 

Marty

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Apparently the manager and some teammates have stuck the boot in for this in the press.
He clearly has issues. Won't be there for much longer but it'll be interesting to see if he can perform at another club or if he'll do a Balotelli and eventually need a completely fresh start at a less high profile club.

He's a much better goalscorer than Balotelli, to be fair.
 

heelspurs

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In what way ? Because he was stupid ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...und-ready-sell-Pierre-Emerick-Aubameyang.html
Roman Weidenfeller said the forward had 'done a stupid thing' and Peter Bosz was more damning, saying he had 'ruined everything'.

Can't imagine that will go over very well. It is the DM so the quote may have been unmercifully trimmed but they no look good.

He clearly has issues. Won't be there for much longer but it'll be interesting to see if he can perform at another club or if he'll do a Balotelli and eventually need a completely fresh start at a less high profile club.

He's a much better goalscorer than Balotelli, to be fair.
Good comparison as both players have/had egos that were disproportionate to their actual talent (or at least production) IMHO. So if Auba leaves he will need an intermediate step before he settles. Diff is he is actually old. No one really wanted him this summer considering the price and his age.
 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...und-ready-sell-Pierre-Emerick-Aubameyang.html


Can't imagine that will go over very well. It is the DM so the quote may have been unmercifully trimmed but they no look good.


Good comparison as both players have/had egos that were disproportionate to their actual talent (or at least production) IMHO. So if Auba leaves he will need an intermediate step before he settles. Diff is he is actually old. No one really wanted him this summer considering the price and his age.

I would imagine there'd be a few takers in the PL with money to burn and the need for anyone who can score goals with a bit of pace thrown in.
 

heelspurs

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I would imagine there'd be a few takers in the PL with money to burn and the need for anyone who can score goals with a bit of pace thrown in.
He is cup-tied and I imagine only the top 6 would interest him. He said he'd never play for Spurs. Not a fit for Mou or Pep. So Pool, Arse & chels?
 

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I dodn't see the game either, but I took a lot of flak for saying how disappointed I was with Dortmund against us the other night. The most abject Dortmund I've seen for years.

It was a strange choice of coach wasn't it ? He seemed to want his Ajax to play that more patient, constructed, possession type game, but Dortmund are built to be more explosive, transitionally. I don't know why they didn't make more of an effort to accommodate Tuchel, he was a much better match I thought.

He fell out with everyone, primarily the DoF type guy but also a lot of the players and the chairman. He's a bit of a dickhead by all accounts.
 

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He fell out with everyone, primarily the DoF type guy but also a lot of the players and the chairman. He's a bit of a dickhead by all accounts.

Yeah, I was listening to Honigstein talking about it this week. He fell out big time with the chief scout, the guy that's now gone to Arsenal. By all accounts he left there very unpopular with the board.
 

'O Zio

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Yeah, I was listening to Honigstein talking about it this week. He fell out big time with the chief scout, the guy that's now gone to Arsenal. By all accounts he left there very unpopular with the board.

Actually it was more the other way round. At the time of the falling out between him and Tuchel, the board sided with Tuchel and that's what upset the scout. The Chairman/President Watzke has even come out and publically apologized to the scout for the way he treated him and admitted he should've stuck up for him against Tuchel.
 

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Actually it was more the other way round. At the time of the falling out between him and Tuchel, the board sided with Tuchel and that's what upset the scout. The Chairman/President Watzke has even come out and publically apologized to the scout for the way he treated him and admitted he should've stuck up for him against Tuchel.


Yeah, I meant Tuchel has ended up very unpopular.
 

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After watching Borussia Dortmund V Wolfsburg (0-0) where Jadon Sancho got his first senior start I must say that I think we missed on a massive talent. He didn’t beat his man as much as I thought he would but his work rate is what surprised me today. He worked really hard, always tracked back, decent defensive positioning and helped the LB Toljan a lot. I think he’s ready to start more games for Dortmund, I really liked what I saw
 

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Just finished watching the Hertha/Dortmund game, apart from Sancho doing pretty well, I thought Alexander Isak (18yo) looked interesting.
 

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Just caught a very brief glimpse of Valentino Lazaro (on loan at Hertha from RB Salzburg) looked very fucking lively, Sane-esque. I literally just saw one or two moments in this weekend's game highlights, so have no idea if he's doing this week in week out, but if so, looks very promising.

Anyone know more about him ?
 
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