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poc

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Everytime Joshua caught him Ruiz took the pinch well and left himself open.
Yep can't throw those lazy punches and expect everyone to fall over and he had the evidence in the parker fight to watch on tape just a lazy performance. Ruiz is better than his body suggests though vnfast hands decent combinations and other than a shortish break between fights he's been in camp a pretty long time.
 

hellava_tough

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Yep can't throw those lazy punches and expect everyone to fall over and he had the evidence in the parker fight to watch on tape just a lazy performance. Ruiz is better than his body suggests though vnfast hands decent combinations and other than a shortish break between fights he's been in camp a pretty long time.

I'm always a bit puzzled when you see fighters who clearly don't keep themselves in good shape.

You'd have thought that for such a dangerous sport, you'd want to give yourself every opportunity to compete with your opponents in the ring.

And fitness is something that any fighter, regardless of boxing ability, can work on.
 

poc

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I'm always a bit puzzled when you see fighters who clearly don't keep themselves in good shape.

You'd have thought that for such a dangerous sport, you'd want to give yourself every opportunity to compete with your opponents in the ring.

And fitness is something that any fighter, regardless of boxing ability, can work on.
I just don't think he's the sort of guy that has ever been slim his cardio for boxing is decent I mean he went the distance with parker and wa far less gassed than AJ prob throwing more punches. I mean he could prolly lose a stone but.like I said hes been in camp a long time maybe just needs to run more ?
 

dontcallme

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I'm always a bit puzzled when you see fighters who clearly don't keep themselves in good shape.

You'd have thought that for such a dangerous sport, you'd want to give yourself every opportunity to compete with your opponents in the ring.

And fitness is something that any fighter, regardless of boxing ability, can work on.
I remember doing Thai boxing with a guy like Ruiz.

He told me that when he had lost a lot of weight he struggled.

Ruiz didn’t gas and was going as strong in round 7 as the 1st so there really isn’t an issue.
 

Pellshek

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Looking at the replay this morning, I'm shocked at how hard Ruiz hit. Did not expect that. His shots had real steel and snap to them. Sharp, nasty, stinging blows. Hats off to the guy.

If you were being generous, you could say Joshua was genuinely out on his feet as he took the last count - but my suspicion is that he was ok in the head, but just didn't want to go back out there and take any more punishment. No mas. I don't know whether that was smart or spineless, but I fear it may have been the latter. I'm very keen on safety in boxing, so as much as I want to see a fight over the moment a fighter is in jeopardy, the fight fan in me still feels Joshua could have been braver.

And I didn't like seeing him smiling and chatting with crowd as he left the ring either. Nah man. Tending to your nice-guy, national treasure image after declining to go down fighting isn't a great look. Time to get serious or pack your bags for I'm A Celebrity...
 

fatpiranha

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Heavyweight boxers benefit from a bit of lard. It helps cushion punches and provides an energy source. This compensates for having to drag around the extra weight. It doesn't work at the lower weight classes for obvious reasons but for a HW a stone or so of extra fat can be a good thing and actually improve their endurance. If you are all muscle you are going to deplete your energy reserves very quickly.
 

Shadydan

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THX2208

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This is an awesome breakdown of the Joshua v Ruiz Jr fight.
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Gareth88

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I think Hearn under estimated Ruiz he had over 100 amateur fights and fought a month before this one making him the more active fighter out of the two. Joshua will struggle if he goes against Wilder and Fury. I dont see him winning the Ruiz rematch either
 

Spurrific

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Might be an unpopular opinion, but imo it’s humiliating that Joshua lost to him. Absolutely nothing special about him, aside from pretty fast hands for a tubby dude. For me, Fury would beat Ruiz, as would Wilder, Whyte, Povetkin, Ortiz, maybe even Breazeale. Something was seriously wrong with AJ from the off. Imo the punch in the third (I think) was to the back of the head and should have been deemed illegal.

I don’t think Joshua’s heart is in boxing at all anymore. More interested in building a brand and I don’t blame him really. Good looking dude, multi millionaire already and wildly popular - I wouldn’t want to be punched in the face regularly either. Think he’d be the dream champion for Usyk to fight at heavyweight too.

As long as his head is right in the rematch, Joshua knocks him out
 

SugarRay

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I think Hearn under estimated Ruiz he had over 100 amateur fights and fought a month before this one making him the more active fighter out of the two. Joshua will struggle if he goes against Wilder and Fury. I dont see him winning the Ruiz rematch either

He had a very good amateur record and can see he’s well schooled. Top class composure also, something which Joshua really lacked in the fight.
Joshua didn’t look himself but the sport is littered with these sort of fights. Fighters aren’t robots, whether it be loss of hunger, being drained from the commercial stuff or he did indeed suffer some issues in sparring etc, he didn’t really look himself but no excuses.

Ruiz is a tidy fighter. Fat but fit. He’d struggle against Fury for sure due to the ridiculous height difference, would be a snoozefest. Although Big John McDermott had similar attributes and he beat a young Fury comfortably ( getting robbed of the verdict ) although Tyson is a much different fighter thesedays.

Fair play to Ruiz though, I’m actually delighted for him. Completely changed his world, the stuff dreams are made of.

Joshua? Too nice after, was actually a little embarrassed at his reaction. Sure he might be a nice guy etc but he should be absolutely raging about how the fight went. I remember when Lennox lost, in much different circumstances ( didn’t get beaten up ), he was extra cold and calculating whilst preparing and seeking the rematch. Some fighter he was though, very intimidating man when all the nonsense was stripped away.

Had a feeling one of the three would lose before they all got involved. Didn’t think it would have been Joshua against Ruiz though.
 

SugarRay

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I find it weird that a lot of people seem to accept Canelo over GGG so easily following their fights.

Short term memories. GGG won the first one and the second one was arguably a draw, yet you’ve got lots giving it ‘Canelo don’t need him/GGG needs to beg’ etc

Still, I’m basing it on Twitter where the cesspit of humanity seem to congregate!
 

Chris Finch

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I find it weird that a lot of people seem to accept Canelo over GGG so easily following their fights.

Short term memories. GGG won the first one and the second one was arguably a draw, yet you’ve got lots giving it ‘Canelo don’t need him/GGG needs to beg’ etc

Still, I’m basing it on Twitter where the cesspit of humanity seem to congregate!
Completely agree
 
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