Bentaleb loan becoming permanent?

[WiganSpur]

i think we're going to need to invest in a central midfielder soon.

It isn't an absolute priority compared to the need for more quality further forward but I think if we are serious we might want to consider another CM this summer, particularly so if we manage to qualify for the Champions League again. It's probably going to depend on what happens with Josh though.

 

[Japhet]

I always thought he needed a strong defensively minded player next to him to talk him through games. He never had that with Mason but I think he'd be great next to Wanyama. Having said that though, I'd rather see Winks developing now. I also wouldn't have seen him getting much time last season with Dier and Dembele, so all in all, he's slipped way down the list and is surplus to requirements now.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Why?

Dier, wanyama, dembele, winks

When onamah grows out of his Bambi phase think we'll see some crazy potential

I don't think we need any more pure cm for now. It's the folks just in front that need checking

first two i'm fine with, although with us going three at the back and dier spending much of his time at cb, we might be spreading them too thin over the course of a season.

*unpopular opinion alert* dembele is coming to an end, he's had his season in the sun and is gradually reverting back to his old ways, he will also begin to break down more and more frequently from here on and for me he simply cannot be relied upon. perhaps another unpopular opinion here but i think we need to cool down on winks a little, he's a good player and an asset to the squad but i don't know if ceiling-wise he's ever going to be really top level.

onomah i believe has big potential but right now he's completely lost. he needs a couple of years away to really learn the game and in some ways refind himself, even if poch were to actually start playing him in the position he belongs i don't think he's currently in the right state to genuinely contribute.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

i think we're going to need to invest in a central midfielder soon.

Bingo. We are up the creek for options.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

first two i'm fine with, although with us going three at the back and dier spending much of his time at cb, we might be spreading them too thin over the course of a season.

*unpopular opinion alert* dembele is coming to an end, he's had his season in the sun and is gradually reverting back to his old ways, he will also begin to break down more and more frequently from here on and for me he simply cannot be relied upon. perhaps another unpopular opinion here but i think we need to cool down on winks a little, he's a good player and an asset to the squad but i don't know if ceiling-wise he's ever going to be really top level.

onomah i believe has big potential but right now he's completely lost. he needs a couple of years away to really learn the game and in some ways refind himself, even if poch were to actually start playing him in the position he belongs i don't think he's currently in the right state to genuinely contribute.

Started typing out something very similar, but I would add that I don't even think Dier is really very viable as a CM going forward.

 

[beats1]

Do we know Bentaleb can still turn down the move? I thought the agreement was put
In place with club and player, so when he signed in summer, he knew that if he played x amount of games he would automatically be a perm at player with them. Guess work to say he can say no? Or these deals with clubs would never work

No, he can like Chris Martin at Derby

He is on loan at Fulham and wasnt allowed to go back to derby but he signed a new contract with derby whilst on loan at fulham despite them having an agreement in place.

A transfer agreement just means the club cant reject the deal, the player can

 

[dagraham]

Started typing out something very similar, but I would add that I don't even think Dier is really very viable as a CM going forward.

Depends. He was good last season, and without being what you'd call creative, his use of the ball wasn't bad at all.

Personally, I think the euros have knocked his confidence big time, as his passing seems to have gone backwards, even when he's playing in midfield or as the spare man in a defensive 3.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Depends. He was good last season, and without being what you'd call creative, his use of the ball wasn't bad at all.

Personally, I think the euros have knocked his confidence big time, as his passing seems to have gone backwards, even when he's playing in midfield or as the spare man in a defensive 3.

I think his ability as a Cm was always over stated and over hyped, he did a solid job in a very sturdy but formulaic and risk averse set up. ManU won a title with Phil Jones doing a very similar job, but I don't remember anyone on here ever lauding him as the new Xabi Alonso.

 

[dagraham]

I think his ability as a Cm was always over stated and over hyped, he did a solid job in a very sturdy but formulaic and risk averse set up. ManU won a title with Phil Jones doing a very similar job, but I don't remember anyone on here ever lauding him as the new Xabi Alonso.

Well I think Dier's performance in midfield last season falls somewhere in the middle between Alonso and Phil Jones. .

Jones is crap, and Dier was one of most important players last year.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

It will be Tielemans this summer, won't it. It's such a Pochettino signing. 12 months later he'll be out on loan.

 

[kaz Hirai]

first two i'm fine with, although with us going three at the back and dier spending much of his time at cb, we might be spreading them too thin over the course of a season.

*unpopular opinion alert* dembele is coming to an end, he's had his season in the sun and is gradually reverting back to his old ways, he will also begin to break down more and more frequently from here on and for me he simply cannot be relied upon. perhaps another unpopular opinion here but i think we need to cool down on winks a little, he's a good player and an asset to the squad but i don't know if ceiling-wise he's ever going to be really top level.

onomah i believe has big potential but right now he's completely lost. he needs a couple of years away to really learn the game and in some ways refind himself, even if poch were to actually start playing him in the position he belongs i don't think he's currently in the right state to genuinely contribute.

Do you think bentelab is superior/has more potential than winks then?

 

[rabbikeane]

It will be Tielemans this summer, won't it. It's such a Pochettino signing. 12 months later he'll be out on loan.

Think he'd be more of a Christian Eriksen signing for us than Clinton/N'koudou etc.

 

[SugarRay]

I just hope our next centre midfield purchase can see and make a pass forwards at times!

Modric-lite ( we'll struggle to find another Luka obviously )

 

[Blake Griffin]

Do you think bentelab is superior/has more potential than winks then?

different players but yes. i think winks has a more basic skill set, which by no means is to say he's not a good player i just don't think he has as much in his locker as bentaleb, i don't think dembele does either.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I just hope our next centre midfield purchase can see and make a pass forwards at times!

Modric-lite ( we'll struggle to find another Luka obviously )

Or we could just play Winks more rather than blocking his path with an expensive signing

 

[Ossie85]

Winks is so much better than Bentaleb. So much better.

I still can't believe how Levy made Schalke pay all that for Bentaleb

Not only Winks is a better player, but has a better personality. Humble kid and a team player. Bentaleb is a trouble maker who would throw anyone under the bus if it suited him

 

[EQP]

Winks is so much better than Bentaleb. So much better.

I still can't believe how Levy made Schalke pay all that for Bentaleb

Not only Winks is a better player, but has a better personality. Humble kid and a team player. Bentaleb is a trouble maker who would throw anyone under the bus if it suited him

Always enjoy these type of comments, especially as you have no proof. It didn't work out with Nabil, move on and stop making stuff up about things you're not privy to.

 

[Ossie85]

Always enjoy these type of comments, especially as you have no proof. It didn't work out with Nabil, move on and stop making stuff up about things you're not privy to.

Nah, you are right. Poor Nabil didn't make all that fuss in the media about his contract. It was an impersonator

So glad he's not with us anymore

 

[kaz Hirai]

different players but yes. i think winks has a more basic skill set, which by no means is to say he's not a good player i just don't think he has as much in his locker as bentaleb, i don't think dembele does either.

Fair enough, never really got on the bentelab hype , seemed like another tom Carroll. Nice composure but nothing eye catching. think winks who is 2 years younger is way superior now and will be in the future

But time shall tell

 

[UpTownSpur]

Winks is so much better than Bentaleb. So much better.

I still can't believe how Levy made Schalke pay all that for Bentaleb

Not only Winks is a better player, but has a better personality. Humble kid and a team player. Bentaleb is a trouble maker who would throw anyone under the bus if it suited him

Taking the whole package I'd take Winks everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. They both have excellent skill sets but Winks wins hands down on mentality. He's more composed, more team oriented and has a greater affinity to the club. If Bentelab became incredibly good at Spurs he'd have started angling for a move and bigger wages, like he started doing. So it was always a lose lose situation with him, as either he'd be no good, or good and want to move. Winks on the other hand is a manager and fans' dream.