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Bentaleb loan becoming permanent?

SPURSFANfrance

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Congrats @nabilbentaleb42
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! You've chosen the @s04_en midfielder as #BLROOKIE
 

StanSpur

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that implies we could use that 16m and sign someone that would improve the 1st team but unless we get lucky with a dele alli type punt on some kid or a player running down his contract(wanyama) then that's clearly not the case.

this move is a mistake if it goes through. nabil is the cm equivalent of danny rose a few years ago, a player with a perceived heightened opinion of himself but one with all the tools to become very, very good. like rose he is still young and has a couple of flaws but they shouldn't be used to define him, there's no reason he can't work on them and eradicate them from his game. spurs fans always say we need to look for a long term dembele replacement and here we are virtually giving one away(i'm sorry but 16m in this market is nothing for a 22yo with nabil's talent). although, unlike dembele he isn't petrified of the opposition's goal, four goals and four assists in half a season for him so far compared to dembele's zero.

I wasn't implying that the money gets reinvested to improve the first team directly - i agree that current markets mean prices are over inflated. More the fact that £16m is still a lot of money in a real sense for the operating budget of the business and, if the player isn't wanted/doesn't want to be at Spurs, then it is a welcome boost to the clubs accounts (particularly given he was a youth product). As for replacing Dembele - its not possible as he is quite unique. I don't deny Nabil has talent, I just think at the moment he'd be behind Wanyama, Dembele, Winks and Dier in that middle role, most of whom are very young and not likely to go backwards in their own development. So if he doesn't fit now, and its questionable if he will in the future, should the business just hold on to the asset on the off-chance?
 

bubble07

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I liked him but Poch didnt so 16m for a player not wanted by the manager is a very good price
 

The Scarecrow

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http://sportwitness.co.uk/man-united-liverpool-linked-tottenham-midfielder-e20m-deal-done-soon/

Tottenham must surely have protection clause over quick €30m to €35m transfer

Barely used by Mauricio Pochettino, Nabil Bentaleb’s loan move to Schalke 04 last summer will have been a relief for the young midfielder, who’d spent much of the previous season either injured or on the bench.

The Tottenham loanee has since enjoyed a very positive season with the Bundesliga side, becoming a key member of their squad, and there’s a strong chance the player could stay there next season, with an automatic clause close to being triggered.

We relayed an article from Bild on Tuesday claiming that one more appearance would see Schalke have to pay Tottenham €19m for Bentaleb, with the midfielder signing a four year deal on the back of the fee being paid.

However, Kicker had previously reported this month the German side had some concerns about Bentaleb wanting European football, something they seem unlikely to be able to obtain considering their current league position, leading to doubts about his future in the Bundesliga.

Moving to the French media, FootMercato on Wednesday back up Bild’s claims, with the website reporting their own information, stating a €21m clause is very much present, and will be triggered in a handful of appearances.

They also add that a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ is in place between Bentaleb and Schalke that could see the midfielder leave as early as this summer if an offer of €30-35m were to land on the Bundesliga club’s desk.

FootMercato then go on to claim that both Manchester United and Liverpool are following the player closely, which makes some sense considering both clubs’ needs.

José Mourinho’s midfield for next season certainly needs some new blood, with Michael Carrick and Bastian Schweinsteiger ageing and likely to leave, and Bentaleb’s ability to sit in front of the defence as well as score and create (five goals and five assists this season) could make him a viable candidate.

As for Liverpool, their continuous links with Atalanta’s Franck Kessié certainly suggest Jürgen Klopp is looking for a new midfielder, one capable of replacing Lucas Leiva, who has been linked with a return to Brazil quite a lot recently.

It would be a surprise if Tottenham don’t have a clause in the Bentaleb deal which would see them get a large percentage of profit if Schalke sell him immediately.
 

mano-obe

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That season with Mason was excellent. Good player when he's up for it but 16m would be good business for Levy
 

spurs9

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that implies we could use that 16m and sign someone that would improve the 1st team but unless we get lucky with a dele alli type punt on some kid or a player running down his contract(wanyama) then that's clearly not the case.

this move is a mistake if it goes through. nabil is the cm equivalent of danny rose a few years ago, a player with a perceived heightened opinion of himself but one with all the tools to become very, very good. like rose he is still young and has a couple of flaws but they shouldn't be used to define him, there's no reason he can't work on them and eradicate them from his game. spurs fans always say we need to look for a long term dembele replacement and here we are virtually giving one away(i'm sorry but 16m in this market is nothing for a 22yo with nabil's talent). although, unlike dembele he isn't petrified of the opposition's goal, four goals and four assists in half a season for him so far compared to dembele's zero.
That's a bit of an unfair comparison though considering they are playing in different leagues. Bentaleb never scored for us in 46 league games.

It's a shame he is leaving (i fully believe it will go through) and can only think it has something to do with off the pitch issues, as he went from 1st choice CM and big pay rise/contract extension to being moved on in 1 year.
 

The Apprentice

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Really don't understand how it didn't work out for him here. 16 million isn't a lot for a young gifted CM.

One can only assume it was attitude, although he never played like he lacked character and would have thought Poch could have worked on him.

Would struggle to sign better for that sort of cash.
 

Lemon

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If he backs away from Schalke and Utd want him Martial becomes interesting, no?
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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If he backs away from Schalke and Utd want him Martial becomes interesting, no?

I think the implication is he will sign for Schalke on the understanding/agreement that he can move again in the summer if a 30-35m bid is received by Schalke by a club he wants to go - i.e. not us selling directly.
 

McArchibald

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I can't escape the feeling we're making a huge mistake letting this guy walk out the door just like that... :(
 

Hercules

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I can't escape the feeling we're making a huge mistake letting this guy walk out the door just like that... :(
From the few matches I have seen, including when he has scored, he has had good but not brilliant games. He concedes a lot in transmission. In all honesty, if he was not 'one of our own' and we were linked to him, I do not think we would be going with the hype to sign him.
 

Trix

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that implies we could use that 16m and sign someone that would improve the 1st team but unless we get lucky with a dele alli type punt on some kid or a player running down his contract(wanyama) then that's clearly not the case.

this move is a mistake if it goes through. nabil is the cm equivalent of danny rose a few years ago, a player with a perceived heightened opinion of himself but one with all the tools to become very, very good. like rose he is still young and has a couple of flaws but they shouldn't be used to define him, there's no reason he can't work on them and eradicate them from his game. spurs fans always say we need to look for a long term dembele replacement and here we are virtually giving one away(i'm sorry but 16m in this market is nothing for a 22yo with nabil's talent). although, unlike dembele he isn't petrified of the opposition's goal, four goals and four assists in half a season for him so far compared to dembele's zero.

Had he of stayed he would not have played, simple as that.
 

yido_number1

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From the few matches I have seen, including when he has scored, he has had good but not brilliant games. He concedes a lot in transmission. In all honesty, if he was not 'one of our own' and we were linked to him, I do not think we would be going with the hype to sign him.

Not really one of our own, we brought him in when he was 17. People like Mason and Carroll were with the club from really young ages. More of a shrewd investment in a player that was rejected by a number of different clubs academy's. Shame to see him go but he is either great or sloppy.

Good luck to him, I hope it works out but doubt he will end up back in England with a top four team any time soon.
 

King of the Lane

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Really don't understand how it didn't work out for him here. 16 million isn't a lot for a young gifted CM.

One can only assume it was attitude, although he never played like he lacked character and would have thought Poch could have worked on him.

Would struggle to sign better for that sort of cash.

Didn't he do an interview saying he wants to be paid the same amount as the top earners at the club?

Think his attitude and ego were very poor
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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Do people really think he has more potential than Winks? The guy clearly has an attitude problem and has rubbed MoPo up the wrong way in the past. Is everyone forgetting that?

He's capabable of making blunder after blunder, and no, it's not just one against Man Utd, a couple of seasons ago, and a preseason friendly against Real Madrid. He's made unforced errors countless times in games for Spurs. Yes he could improve, but by all accounts, he's been hit and miss for Shalke too.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Do people really think he has more potential than Winks? The guy clearly has an attitude problem and has rubbed MoPo up the wrong way in the past. Is everyone forgetting that?

He's capabable of making blunder after blunder, and no, it's not just one against Man Utd, a couple of seasons ago, and a preseason friendly against Real Madrid. He's made unforced errors countless times in games for Spurs. Yes he could improve, but by all accounts, he's been hit and miss for Shalke too.
'Countless' lol. Absolute myth. Every player makes 'unforced errors' but people act like he cost us a goal every game.
 
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