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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

Stamford

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For me that felt like the first real statement win under him. It feels especially significant because Emery is a top class manager and we havent played that well in a long time. Given me even more hope for the future.
 

jurgen

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Given we're currently scoring at a rate unseen since our 2nd place finish with Poch, it's interesting to see Ange publicly note that we haven't been doing as well as we can with our forward play.

Defensive record obviously needs sorting (with mitigating circumstances this year), but if Ange still thinks there's another level to come from our attackers / attacking system then that's exciting.
 

Styopa

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Given we're currently scoring at a rate unseen since our 2nd place finish with Poch, it's interesting to see Ange publicly note that we haven't been doing as well as we can with our forward play.

Defensive record obviously needs sorting (with mitigating circumstances this year), but if Ange still thinks there's another level to come from our attackers / attacking system then that's exciting.

It’s exciting when you consider that the likes of Kulusevski (6 goals this season), Maddison (4) and Johnson (4) all have the potential to score more for us. I think they are all capable of at least targeting double figures next season.
 

Wick3d

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It is the small things that make you love Ange. He doesn't have to do them, but he does them anyway. He is just a genuine, decent bloke.
 

Trix

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Given we're currently scoring at a rate unseen since our 2nd place finish with Poch, it's interesting to see Ange publicly note that we haven't been doing as well as we can with our forward play.

Defensive record obviously needs sorting (with mitigating circumstances this year), but if Ange still thinks there's another level to come from our attackers / attacking system then that's exciting.

I understand what he is saying completely.


I'm not sure the defensive stats will get much better in all honesty. This way of playing is never going to see clean sheet after clean sheet. We can tighten up on set pieces for sure and that will mitigate a few goals that we are conceding, but teams are always going to get chances against such a high line consisting of only 2 CB's, with the full backs on the opposition 18 yard line.

From an attacking POV we could certainly be creating more clear cut chances with coaching and players becoming more familiar with each others movement. The number of crosses and cut backs that fail to find a man could easily see us create a good number of good chances with better reading of the situation.
 

thelak

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Big Ange - great bloke in his own right

the contrast with the manager down the road makes it even more stark
 

TOLBINY

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I understand what he is saying completely.


I'm not sure the defensive stats will get much better in all honesty. This way of playing is never going to see clean sheet after clean sheet. We can tighten up on set pieces for sure and that will mitigate a few goals that we are conceding, but teams are always going to get chances against such a high line consisting of only 2 CB's, with the full backs on the opposition 18 yard line.

From an attacking POV we could certainly be creating more clear cut chances with coaching and players becoming more familiar with each others movement. The number of crosses and cut backs that fail to find a man could easily see us create a good number of good chances with better reading of the situation.
The top teams tend to have strong defences also - it is something I think we will need to improve upon if we are to win the league. Last ten seasons the Prem winners have conceded;
33
26
32
33
23
27
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27

We've conceded 39 already this season.
 

spurs mental

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The top teams tend to have strong defences also - it is something I think we will need to improve upon if we are to win the league. Last ten seasons the Prem winners have conceded;
33
26
32
33
23
27
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36
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27

We've conceded 39 already this season.
I think as players learn, and new recruits join, we will make less mistakes and learn to deal with it better.

Of course with the high line we will always give chances away, but most of our opponents chances lately come from us giving the ball away in a dangerous area or making a mistake. We'll make less of those errors and start conceding less.
 

Hazelton

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What a bloke. We could get relegated and I'd still never want him to leave. I hope he has a very long and successful stay here, he's the perfect Spurs manager. Poch was great for a time but we're talking potential Bill Nicholson territory for Ange if he/we get it right and win things. He just gets it.
 
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ItsBoris

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The top teams tend to have strong defences also - it is something I think we will need to improve upon if we are to win the league. Last ten seasons the Prem winners have conceded;
33
26
32
33
23
27
33
36
32
27

We've conceded 39 already this season.

I think it's a case of attack is the best form of defense. The more incisive we are in the opposition half, and the better we get at pressing and retaining the ball, the fewer goals we will concede because the opponent won't spend as much time in our half or in our box.
 

spurs9

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I understand what he is saying completely.


I'm not sure the defensive stats will get much better in all honesty. This way of playing is never going to see clean sheet after clean sheet. We can tighten up on set pieces for sure and that will mitigate a few goals that we are conceding, but teams are always going to get chances against such a high line consisting of only 2 CB's, with the full backs on the opposition 18 yard line.

From an attacking POV we could certainly be creating more clear cut chances with coaching and players becoming more familiar with each others movement. The number of crosses and cut backs that fail to find a man could easily see us create a good number of good chances with better reading of the situation.
16 of the 39 goals we conceded this season came in 6 games where we either didn't have a CB on the pitch or we were down to 9 men and 3 of the games we didn't have an available CB, we also didn't have our DM.

Also, 3 of our back 5 are 24 or under and it is 3 of the back 5's first season in the PL.

As our back 5 get more mature, more used to the league and more importantly, our team gets better at pressing, our defence will improve and now that we have Dragusin, and if we also bring in a DM competition for Bissouma, and LB comp for Udogie, we should see less of a drop off when our first team CBs and DMs become unavailable.

Under Poch, we conceded 53 in the first season and only 35 the second season and the only 1st team player we signed in defence was Tony, but our defence was even much better when he or Verts were out, because our press was much better in the 2nd season on wards.
 

Trix

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16 of the 39 goals we conceded this season came in 6 games where we either didn't have a CB on the pitch or we were down to 9 men and 3 of the games we didn't have an available CB, we also didn't have our DM.

Also, 3 of our back 5 are 24 or under and it is 3 of the back 5's first season in the PL.

As our back 5 get more mature, more used to the league and more importantly, our team gets better at pressing, our defence will improve and now that we have Dragusin, and if we also bring in a DM competition for Bissouma, and LB comp for Udogie, we should see less of a drop off when our first team CBs and DMs become unavailable.

Under Poch, we conceded 53 in the first season and only 35 the second season and the only 1st team player we signed in defence was Tony, but our defence was even much better when he or Verts were out, because our press was much better in the 2nd season on wards.
My point is we are always going to give up some chances playing how we do. Ange understands this which is why he isn't going on about us improving defensively like he is from an attacking pov. I don't think we will get much tighter than we already are from open play when all are fit, but we can certainly improve going forward by getting shots away when we get into good areas.
 

Nerine

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I mean the bloke is just fucking, I dunno.
I don’t have the words to describe how highly he sits in my estimations.

He makes me feel.
 

funkycoldmedina

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My point is we are always going to give up some chances playing how we do. Ange understands this which is why he isn't going on about us improving defensively like he is from an attacking pov. I don't think we will get much tighter than we already are from open play when all are fit, but we can certainly improve going forward by getting shots away when we get into good areas.
This is a good point and as we improve offensively the more our opponents need to over commit defensively which reduces the burden on our defence.
Teams don't have a lot of attacking intent against Man City because they're being overwhelmed, but like the game last weekend against Liverpool, when a team has the skills to unshackle they can create against this type of system.
 
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