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Would you welcome a 25% ownership stake for Qatar Sports Investments (QSI)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 655 65.2%
  • No

    Votes: 350 34.8%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .

joey55

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May 20, 2005
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I really hope not. I haven't been keeping up with current sentiment towards Levy, but surely even some of his biggest critics are starting to see he might actually be our biggest asset after all.
 

YB123

YB123
Aug 27, 2006
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I really hope not. I haven't been keeping up with current sentiment towards Levy, but surely even some of his biggest critics are starting to see he might actually be our biggest asset after all.

For Tottenham Hotspur PLC yes. Tottenham Hotspur FC.....
 

joey55

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May 20, 2005
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For Tottenham Hotspur PLC yes. Tottenham Hotspur FC.....

Lucky for us the correlation between relative spending and success is undeniable and we are about to enter an era where the PLC is king. It's almost as if Levy saw it coming and was even a driving force behind the changes within the game that have allowed it.

Whether it's Ange or someone else, the next Pep or Klopp will be a Spurs head coach and they'll get all the credit for something that was 20 odd years in development. No club has ever become (key word, so not the established Prem big hitters) succesful in the Premier League era without a sugar daddy. Levy has spent the last 20 years being criticised for his failure to make us succesful, but not one of his critics had a comparable success story to judge him by. Basically no one has a clue what a transition from perennial failures to a club that regularly wins trophies looks like, when it isn't backed by a sugar daddy or state owner. It's easy to criticise him, but without a reasonable comparisons it's impossible to judge. The reason it's so hard to make a reasonable comparison is that no one else, out of hundreds of clubs in this country, has even come close. The reason for that is because without generous owners, all but Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd, no other club in this country has ,or have had, the infastructure to challenge for and win, major honours on a regular basis. Except until now and that is because of Daniel Levy.

Not only have we now got the infastructure, but the regulations that govern the game have restricted the ability of other clubs to simply skip over the enormous task of creating said infastructure. Levy has engineered the conditions in which we as fans can now start to be demanding and expect success. If we fail in these conditions, then fair enough, Levy should really start to consider if he's the right man to be at the helm. But he's more than earned the right to be given the backing of our fans for several more years of trying in this new environment.
 
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14/04/91

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Jan 13, 2006
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Lucky for us the correlation between relative spending and success is undeniable and we are about to enter an era where the PLC is king. It's almost as if Levy saw it coming and was even a driving force behind the changes within the game that have allowed it.

Whether it's Ange or someone else, the next Pep or Klopp will be a Spurs head coach and they'll get all the credit for something that was 20 odd years in development. No club has ever become (key word, so not the established Prem big hitters) succesful in the Premier League era without a sugar daddy. Levy has spent the last 20 years being criticised for his failure to make us succesful, but not one of his critics had a comparable success story to judge him by. Basically no one has a clue what a transition from perennial failures to a club that regularly wins trophies looks like, when it isn't backed by a sugar daddy or state owner. It's easy to criticise him, but without a reasonable comparisons it's impossible to judge. The reason it's so hard to make a reasonable comparison is that no one else, out of hundreds of clubs in this country, has even come close. The reason for that is because without generous owners, all but Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd, no other club in this country has ,or have had, the infastructure to challenge for and win, major honours on a regular basis. Except until now and that is because of Daniel Levy.

Not only have we now got the infastructure, but the regulations that govern the game have restricted the ability of other clubs to simply skip over the enormous task of creating said infastructure. Levy has engineered the conditions in which we as fans can now start to be demanding and expect success. If we fail in these conditions, then fair enough, Levy should really start to consider if he's the right man to be at the helm. But he's more than earned the right to be given the backing of our fans for several more years of trying in this new environment.
But if someone comes along and offers him more than his valuation of the club, do you think he’ll care about any of that?
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Aug 9, 2017
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Recent Levy quote , doesn't sound like any plans to sell on, of course a massive offer might persuade a change of mind but the ultimate desicion is not his alone, the Lewis family might feel that there could be much more growth in value to come.

“We will not stand still – with plans for further Visitor Attractions, notably F1 DRIVE-London, new homes, a new creative quarter and a hotel in the years to come, this area that we are so passionate about will continue to benefit from the club’s investment and being home to one of the world’s greatest football clubs and stadia.

“Everyone involved should be extremely proud of the findings of our latest socio-economic impact report.”
 

Westmorlandspur

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Feb 1, 2013
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Recent Levy quote , doesn't sound like any plans to sell on, of course a massive offer might persuade a change of mind but the ultimate desicion is not his alone, the Lewis family might feel that there could be much more growth in value to come.

“We will not stand still – with plans for further Visitor Attractions, notably F1 DRIVE-London, new homes, a new creative quarter and a hotel in the years to come, this area that we are so passionate about will continue to benefit from the club’s investment and being home to one of the world’s greatest football clubs and stadia.

“Everyone involved should be extremely proud of the findings of our latest socio-economic impact report.”
I think one of the problems with selling is that Levy wants to remain at the helm in some capacity when it is sold. Sounds like a good idea to me.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Aug 9, 2017
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I think one of the problems with selling is that Levy wants to remain at the helm in some capacity when it is sold. Sounds like a good idea to me.
Reckon he wants to see the project through to the end with the hotel etc, sure he & ENIC value the club much higher that the reported values.
 

Cel

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Jan 31, 2013
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It's a 'thing' now.

I went to buy a brand new car and the dealership said fine, I could buy it, as long as only they drove it about :D
Haha - though I guess if you don't need need or overly want to sell something, you get to be a bit more picky :)
 

joey55

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May 20, 2005
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But if someone comes along and offers him more than his valuation of the club, do you think he’ll care about any of that?

I'm sure if he sold it would be with a heavy heart. But the point I'm making is that we as fans should care. We are entering a period where the game is being more strictly regulated in terms of what teams can and can't spend, based on their profitability. Success in football in near perfectly correlated with spending. Our ability to spend in comparison with other clubs gives us a massive advantage, that was previously only afforded to sugar daddy clubs and a small handful of established European giants. This is because of Daniel Levy and the immense work he's put into the club. But it's not just down to hard work. All chairman work hard and want to be succesful I'm sure. Yet Levy is streets ahead of the competition. We are always being described as the best run club in the Prem. We are probably the best run club in Europe. Suddenly everyone is going to have to compete on terms that massively favour well run clubs, as opposed to simply having rich owners. Why on earth would our fans not be worried about losing Levy now? The chances of us replacing Levy with an equally adept owner are slim to say the least.

I get the frustration of fans who have seen the likes of City, Chelsea and even Leicester winning things, while we constantly flatter to deceive and always seem to miss out on the best players etc. But the conditions in which those clubs were able to surpass us have gone. Yes it would have been nice to have been bought by an Oligarch 20 years ago and seen big name players coming through door and won titles etc. But that didn't happen and now if we did get bought by some mega rich owner, it wouldn't make any real difference from a financial perspective. The reality is, whether it's an oil rich Sheik or a US sports investor, who has an MBA from Harvard, they are very unlikely to make the club more profitable than our little bald leader. I bet Newcastle, with their mega wealthy owners, wish they'd spent the last 20 years building the best training ground in Europe, the best stadium in Europe and developed their brand on a global scale. Arsenal and West Ham fans must now hate their stadiums more than ever, due the limited scope for income compared to ours.
 

McFlash

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Oct 19, 2005
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Levy has said many times that he sees himself as the custodian of the club and like him or not, he's put 20 years of his life into it.
He won't just sell for big money, he'll want to sell to the right person/company and make sure they take good care of what he's built.
There's no way he doesn't have an emotional attachment to the club (and the whole project), so I would imagine he'll find it very hard to completely walk away and to be perfectly honest, when I look around the rest of the league, I'm not sure I'd want him to.

That's a bit weird because it wasn't that long ago that I was pretty sick of him tbh.
 

Vdvaart80

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Jul 5, 2011
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Levy has said in the past he’s open to outside investment - could be a stake sold in the club perhaps
 
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Styopa

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Jan 19, 2014
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I think one of the problems with selling is that Levy wants to remain at the helm in some capacity when it is sold. Sounds like a good idea to me.

I don’t think it’s that uncommon for an owner to sell a business and stay on in some capacity e.g as a non executive director or consultant. Obviously it depends on buyers, but sometimes it can be seen as a valuable continuity arrangement.
 
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