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Player watch: Christian Eriksen

tiger666

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You have your opinion, like I have mine. He has been poor for a very long while, and I do not think one can really argue that. Yes, he assists and goals here and there.

Here and there? He's been in the top 5 for league assists every season he's been here. He's the only player along with Beckham to create 10+ assists four consecutive seasons.
 

Seafordian Spurs

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Let us get this straight. There is no way he would get near citeh’s team. And that is not a knee jerk reaction, due to his contract situation. I often keep quiet over the past 18 months, when I hear people championing him. He has been poor for a very long time. His assists and goals camouflages what he does over 90 minutes. Only plus is, he has a good engine.

He doesn’t dominate the games he should (top games) and looses possession far too cheaply. His set pieces? Let’s not go there. He should be ‘rested’ for ‘tactical reasons’. Especially now Alli, Son coming back, and GLC. Then Sess, not long thereafter. The ethos of our style of play has to evolve. We have become too predictable, as oppositions just sat in CE, and nullified him.

He is not good enough for RM, Barca, or Juve.

Hearing ya.

Without wishing to be shot down
.... your personal take on how this could play out...?

I'm thinking he goes on a free next year and spends a chunk of the season on the bench as we slowly adapt to life without him.
 

JR1994

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State of this thread. Soon as he fucks off everyone be moaning that we miss him and blame levy for not getting his contract sorted. Absolute joke we should of got battered yesterday robbed a point at City away and people now have the audacity to start digging players performances haha get in the bin
 

Joeyboey

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Just like everyone did yesterday pretty much. What did Kane do ? No-one imposed themselves on that game really apart from a few short bursts.

Nah he really doesn’t show up in the big games. I’m a huge Eriksen fan and don’t want him to leave but I think it’s a fair statement. Champs league final, Champs league semi finals, against the top 4 last year. He had little to no impact.
 

Havre

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Not sure what people are expecting from Eriksen? Obviously he is not Bale or Ginola who could create something out of nothing. Eriksen needs runners. He is a player that can make others shine, but who exactly are the runners in today´s team? Alli, Son and to some extent Kane. With Alli and Son missing with Eriksen playing out wide I am not exactly sure what he is supposed to do?

Eriksen is fantastic when he is surrounded with the right players. The same way Alli is very average if he is to rely on players like Wanyama and Dier to feed him.

I have never liked a Spurs manager as much as I like Pochettino. Some of the football we played some years ago was great - borderline sensational considering the team he took over. But over the last 13 months I am seriously starting to question his pre game and game management. If we are going to play 4-4-1-1 shouldn´t we have bought some players that might actually suit playing in that formation? N´Koudou would have made more sense than Eriksen yesterday.

Not that it completely excuses Eriksen. Eriksen has been behaving like a big baby over summer. Never expected to see that from him, but no wonder he isn´t playing well considering how he has been playing in pre-season.
 

nailsy

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It seems harsh to judge him on a performance against City when none of our outfield players had a particularly good game. Personally I don't like these big games coming so early in the season when players aren't into the flow of the season yet, but City were miles ahead of us yesterday.
 

McFlash

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The main feeling I've got, when watching Eriksen over the past nine months, has been frustration.
Without all of the critical analysis stuff, it's just how I feel when I watch him and it's getting annoying.
 

Joeyboey

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Looking at last seasons output in the Champs league and against the top 5 in the Premiership he had 10 assists and 2 goals in 23 total games.

These would probably be classified as big games.

It didn’t feel like he had a huge impact in last seasons big games but the numbers are pretty impressive so maybe I’m wrong.
 

Hercules

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Assists and goals here and there ? I think you need to check out some stats for assists and chances created.
I can give you a couple of players with assists and goals. But they are meh, so as one pundit says ‘it is not always a fair reflection of a player, and can be misleading’ (think Souness).
 

tiger666

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I can give you a couple of players with assists and goals. But they are meh, so as one pundit says ‘it is not always a fair reflection of a player, and can be misleading’ (think Souness).

Oh ok, seeing as Souness says it ..
 

Hercules

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This argument will never be settled, and no way can some take an objective view, which I respect. I closed one comment earlier by stating he would not get into citeh, Barca, RM teams. That is where I set my standard. Because against those teams is where you expect him to influence. And your big players show up and influence big games in more ways than one. When the team is below par you need your big players, and it is here that CE has fallen short in the past 18 months. The comments if it wasn’t for him we would not of made the CL final is not accurate. You could certainly say that about if it wasn’t for Lucas we would not of made the CL final is more on point. But this is not a Lucas debate.
 

Primativ

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Not sure what people are expecting from Eriksen? Obviously he is not Bale or Ginola who could create something out of nothing. Eriksen needs runners. He is a player that can make others shine, but who exactly are the runners in today´s team? Alli, Son and to some extent Kane. With Alli and Son missing with Eriksen playing out wide I am not exactly sure what he is supposed to do?

Eriksen is fantastic when he is surrounded with the right players. The same way Alli is very average if he is to rely on players like Wanyama and Dier to feed him.

I have never liked a Spurs manager as much as I like Pochettino. Some of the football we played some years ago was great - borderline sensational considering the team he took over. But over the last 13 months I am seriously starting to question his pre game and game management. If we are going to play 4-4-1-1 shouldn´t we have bought some players that might actually suit playing in that formation? N´Koudou would have made more sense than Eriksen yesterday.

Not that it completely excuses Eriksen. Eriksen has been behaving like a big baby over summer. Never expected to see that from him, but no wonder he isn´t playing well considering how he has been playing in pre-season.

Keeping the ball would be a start?
 

Primativ

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This argument will never be settled, and no way can some take an objective view, which I respect. I closed one comment earlier by stating he would not get into citeh, Barca, RM teams. That is where I set my standard. Because against those teams is where you expect him to influence. And your big players show up and influence big games in more ways than one. When the team is below par you need your big players, and it is here that CE has fallen short in the past 18 months. The comments if it wasn’t for him we would not of made the CL final is not accurate. You could certainly say that about if it wasn’t for Lucas we would not of made the CL final is more on point. But this is not a Lucas debate.


You are spot on. When was the last time Eriksen actually put in a good performance versus one of the top sides in a big game?

He always goes missing. I think some people are deluded. The guys been poor for a year now. Yes he’s talented but he hasn’t lived up to that for ages now. Whatever the reasons why he’s been so poor, he HAS BEEN POOR. It is indisputable, it’s their in all of the matches last season.

His impact last week v Villa was massively overblown too. Hit a good free kick well saved, put a shot poorly wide and dispossessed Grealish was pretty much the crux of it.

I think he’s massively unsettled at the moment and will be in Madrid in two weeks so all his fans can weep over him then but based on what I’ve seen the last year I won’t be sorry to see him go. Yes he’s a good player but his influence on the side the passes year or so has been negligible. Our attacking play has been poor for ages and surely Eriksen bears some responsibility for that.
 

Flashspur

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I think the frustration many of us have is the goals and assists mantra but the reality is I can’t think of many of the critical games when he has grabbed and dominated. The games you’d expect him to turn up for. He is not the Playmaker extraordinare that we have shoved down our throats by Ericksen fans. You look at De Bruyne and Bernardo yesterday. They played with fire, a desire to win. Would you expect the same from Stefan?
 

Ronwol196061

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This argument will never be settled, and no way can some take an objective view, which I respect. I closed one comment earlier by stating he would not get into citeh, Barca, RM teams. That is where I set my standard. Because against those teams is where you expect him to influence. And your big players show up and influence big games in more ways than one. When the team is below par you need your big players, and it is here that CE has fallen short in the past 18 months. The comments if it wasn’t for him we would not of made the CL final is not accurate. You could certainly say that about if it wasn’t for Lucas we would not of made the CL final is more on point. But this is not a Lucas debate.

Eriksen rarely shows up when you need him.He shows up when it works for him. He has become a messianic figure for many. The guy has talents,scores and gets assists and is better than most of our team in skill but there is something lacking in him that most great players have.
The comments that people make about that there were others of lesser talent that didn't do well yesterday and yet Eriksen is picked out...I say that its all relative you what you expect. I expect more from Eriksen BECAUSE of his talent while lets say Sissoko I think he gives 100% with and with lesser talent I give him a higher mark
Then there are these showcase games where he could be showing the world what he can do.In Madrid no less. What could he muster?
 

Haddock

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For all CE assists and goals, is there anyone one here who wouldn’t swap CE plus 25 mill for KDB, if not why not?

Absolutely. I would also swap Sissoko for Rodri, KWP for Walker, Lamela for Bernardo Silva, Nkoudo for Sterling.

But that is totally irrelevant. Jusy as your comment were to begin with. City is vastly superior to us and they have players that are clearly superior to some of our players.

Go figure.
 

Havre

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Probably arrogant of me, but I can´t help thinking some of these comments would not have been made had Eriksen signed a new 5 year contract in April.

I don´t think Eriksen isn´t replaceable. Only Kane isn´t, but usually when we play well it is because Eriksen has a good day.

I think it is fair to criticise him for being inconsistent. I also hope Lo Celso can fill the void he is leaving if he gets sold, when he gets injured or when he isn´t at the top of his game. Not sure how we will be better by him leaving though.
 

Havre

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Eriksen rarely shows up when you need him.He shows up when it works for him. He has become a messianic figure for many. The guy has talents,scores and gets assists and is better than most of our team in skill but there is something lacking in him that most great players have.
The comments that people make about that there were others of lesser talent that didn't do well yesterday and yet Eriksen is picked out...I say that its all relative you what you expect. I expect more from Eriksen BECAUSE of his talent while lets say Sissoko I think he gives 100% with and with lesser talent I give him a higher mark

This is clearly false.

And anyone watching a single Denmark game knows Eriksen isn´t disappearing when he is needed the most.
 
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