The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

daryl hannah · Apr 6, 2019

LexingtonSpurs said:
Where would he fit? Seems like a natural Left Midfielder - which we don't use very often.

It feels like we can do better at Winger - Sonny is already there. And, it does not seem like Sessegnon can play FB. For £40M - I want someone who is going to compete for a starting XI spot straight away.

Yep. We haven't seen enough at LWB to judge other than brief highlights at fulham 18 months ago before he was moved further forward. Not sure he'd be old enough to make the position his own (quite a physical role) and anything upwards of £30m is insanity for a position we're not even sure he'd play in. What would be ideal on the wing is someone like Sancho. Oh well.

ToDarrenIsToDo · Apr 6, 2019

LexingtonSpurs said:
Where would he fit? Seems like a natural Left Midfielder - which we don't use very often.

It feels like we can do better at Winger - Sonny is already there. And, it does not seem like Sessegnon can play FB. For £40M - I want someone who is going to compete for a starting XI spot straight away.

I'd bring him in as a similar signing to what Rose initially was for us & Bale.

He can play as a winger but I'd have him earmarked based on his development as either a LB or WF. He clearly has a good temperament and clearly he has ability, that alone means he is worth taking a shot at with exceptional HG talent a rare thing.

If it was down to me this summer I think now is the time to go as big as we are able to with the likes of Kane, Dele who will want returns for their talents. We may have already lost Eriksen due to this very reason and I think it's in the clubs best interests to do so.

I'd bring Sessegnon in & give him a season to see how he gets on either as Rose & Davies' understudy & backup to the WFs we have in Son, Lamela & Lucas. I'd bring Andersen in to replace Toby. If Villa don't get promoted I'd still go for Grealish as it's relatively low risk. He clearly has talent & is HG so why squander that opportunity? I'd go go all out for a CM & RB, whoever is number one target for Pochettino.

Out -

Vorm - free
Trippier or Aurier - £25m
Alderweireld - £25m
Wanyama - £5m
Dembele - £11m
Nkoudou £2.5m
Janssen - £5m
Eriksen - £60m
Llorente - free

In c£130m-£135m

Sessegnon £30m
Andersen £25m
Grealish £30m
Diawara £20m
Ndombele £55m
Wan-Bissaka £40m

Overall spend after player sales would be roughly £70m. Not really a huge amount based on a vital squad overhaul & vital players like Dembele, Alderweireld and Eriksen moving on.

Other options we should be looking at are Brandt, Havertz & Fekir who I believe has one year left to run on his current contract. I hope we keep an eye on that Ryan Gravenberch at Ajax as well. Seems like a class act.

ToDarrenIsToDo · Apr 6, 2019

daryl hannah said:
Yep. We haven't seen enough at LWB to judge other than brief highlights at fulham 18 months ago before he was moved further forward. Not sure he'd be old enough to make the position his own (quite a physical role) and anything upwards of £30m is insanity for a position we're not even sure he'd play in. What would be ideal on the wing is someone like Sancho. Oh well.

We signed Rose as a winger I believe and converted him to left back because he didn't have the tools to be an elite player further forward. With Lamela always injured and running out of time & Rose with one year until he enters the final 12 months of his contract I'd get Sessegnon in on the basis that he has 12 months to demonstrate where he adds the most quality for us and his future.

Get him as backup at both left back & WF and see how his body and game matures. He has talent, is young and HG. For me he ticks enough boxes to dabble and experiment with his tools until we see what his ceiling is IMO

LexingtonSpurs · Apr 6, 2019

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
We signed Rose as a winger I believe and converted him to left back because he didn't have the tools to be an elite player further forward. With Lamela always injured and running out of time & Rose with one year until he enters the final 12 months of his contract I'd get Sessegnon in on the basis that he has 12 months to demonstrate where he adds the most quality for us and his future.

Get him as backup at both left back & WF and see how his body and game matures. He has talent, is young and HG. For me he ticks enough boxes to dabble and experiment with his tools until we see what his ceiling is IMO

I don't think anyone questions whether we should take a look at Sessgnon - its his price tag that is a little off-putting for where he is today.

Maybe that is just a factor of the market moving in that direction - but given the holes we need to fill, I am not sure we can afford to take a punt on a £40M prospect.

And, I would not be so sure that Fulham won't get £40M - particularly if either Manchester club, or Arsenal get involved.

daryl hannah · Apr 6, 2019

LexingtonSpurs said:
I don't think anyone questions whether we should take a look at Sessgnon - its his price tag that is a little off-putting for where he is today.

Maybe that is just a factor of the market moving in that direction - but given the holes we need to fill, I am not sure we can afford to take a punt on a £40M prospect.

And, I would not be so sure that Fulham won't get £40M - particularly if either Manchester club, or Arsenal get involved.

I personally think that's BS - I don't believe for a moment that either of them are even vaguely interested in signing him.

The £40m is a red herring too.

ToDarrenIsToDo · Apr 6, 2019

daryl hannah said:
I personally think that's BS - I don't believe for a moment that either of them are even vaguely interested in signing him.

The £40m is a red herring too.

What kind of valuation do you put on him going into the summer with them relegated now? It's a tricky one to speculate over

LexingtonSpurs · Apr 6, 2019

daryl hannah said:
I personally think that's BS - I don't believe for a moment that either of them are even vaguely interested in signing him.

The £40m is a red herring too.

I don't know - I think you would have to question why either team would not want to sign a HG talent, and if they are not interested, what makes him a good fit here?

Personally, with the need for HG players now, and the potential to need more in the future if the FA have their way - or if Brexit causes issues - I think that any of the top-6 would be looking to ensure they have the best HG talent available. So, my assumption is that clubs like both Manchester clubs can afford to pay a player, who may only be a role player, and that would drive the price of players like Sessegnon up (this is certainly what Fulham are anticipating). And if Sessegnon wants to stay in London - then I think that brings Arsenal into play (and maybe Chelsea if they get their transfer ban postponed to 2020).

Spursh · Apr 6, 2019

Long shot this one, but has anyone watched Burnley enough to pass judgement on Dwight McNeil?

The teenager has contributed 3 goals and 4 assists in 14 starts for the Clarets, and is getting rave reviews. From the clips I’ve seen of him, he doesn’t look particularly fast or skilful but moves smoothly with the ball, almost reminiscent of Dele. His end product looks of a high standard for someone his age too.

Spartan Spurs · Apr 6, 2019

Serious question.
It's evident that his price has gone up considerably since there were some feint links last summer.
But what would be a realistic price for N'Dombele?

The guy is such a physical specimen with equally impressive attributes.
He's got the agility of an Eriksen.
The engine of a Sissoko.
The vision of a Rafa VDV.
The ball retention of a Dembele
And the power of King Kong.

Quite the package.
Would solve a number of issues with one purchase.
Too bad we didn't get him earlier.

Danny1 · Apr 6, 2019

Watched the Southampton game last night and have to say I was very impressed with Valery at RB. Quick, great crosser and seemed to be very good at keeping Mane quiet. 20 years old with great scope to improve, i definitely think he could turn into a fantastic player.

nedley · Apr 6, 2019

LexingtonSpurs said:
Where would he fit? Seems like a natural Left Midfielder - which we don't use very often.

It feels like we can do better at Winger - Sonny is already there. And, it does not seem like Sessegnon can play FB. For £40M - I want someone who is going to compete for a starting XI spot straight away.

As he's only 18 I'm sure those who work with him and around him will have their own opinions of where he'll end up playing.

He could end up centre mid for all we know.

I'm sure Poch will have his own opinion.

Japhet · Apr 6, 2019

LexingtonSpurs said:
Where would he fit? Seems like a natural Left Midfielder - which we don't use very often.

It feels like we can do better at Winger - Sonny is already there. And, it does not seem like Sessegnon can play FB. For £40M - I want someone who is going to compete for a starting XI spot straight away.

For 40m I'd leave Sessegnon. Grimaldo or Telles would be much more what we need right now. I know he's a great prospect and HG but I don't want to spend a couple of seasons waiting for him to develop, by which time half our regular first XI now will be gone. 100% down to price with Sess and it needs to come way down from 40m for me.

gavspur · Apr 6, 2019

With Poch’s history in excelling at bringing on full-backs, I’d like to think that Sess and W-B could thrive here for the next few years together.. The commentator the other night said that W-B was a winger, then moved to rb, and has openly said he has had no training in doing so. If that’s true, think what Poch could bring to his game and show him?

allatsea · Apr 6, 2019

gavspur said:
With Poch’s history in excelling at bringing on full-backs, I’d like to think that Sess and W-B could thrive here for the next few years together.. The commentator the other night said that W-B was a winger, then moved to rb, and has openly said he has had no training in doing so. If that’s true, think what Poch could bring to his game and show him?

Sessegnon can't defend and Poch hasn't been very successful with Aurier or Trippier.

gorgeous george · Apr 6, 2019

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
What kind of valuation do you put on him going into the summer with them relegated now? It's a tricky one to speculate over

They are relegated and he has only a year left in his contract. No chance of getting €40m

mike_l · Apr 6, 2019

Spartan Spurs said:
Serious question.
It's evident that his price has gone up considerably since there were some feint links last summer.
But what would be a realistic price for N'Dombele?

The guy is such a physical specimen with equally impressive attributes.
He's got the agility of an Eriksen.
The engine of a Sissoko.
The vision of a Rafa VDV.
The ball retention of a Dembele
And the power of King Kong.

Quite the package.
Would solve a number of issues with one purchase.
Too bad we didn't get him earlier.

Serious answer.
I don't know.

dontcallme · Apr 6, 2019

gorgeous george said:
They are relegated and he has only a year left in his contract. No chance of getting €40m

Really depends on the competition. If any of the other top six want him his price will go up.

BringBack_leGin · Apr 6, 2019

M astounded at the amount of people against signing Sessegnon. He’s had a rough year as an 18 year old in the worst side in the division when they’ve just come up, a side who are on their third manager of the season. Even then he’s shown glimpses of his ability regularly enough for people to know it’s there.

Who remembers Bale, straight back from injury, in 08/09? No confidence, and as such constantly making bad decisions, hiding, no first touch, even pace seemed to desert him. I’m not saying Sessegnon is Bale’s class, but if one of the world’s best talents in the last decade can have an awful season as a teenager in a relegation fight at a club who’ve changed manager, then anybody can.

Danny Rose was shocking (I know some of you will rewrite history and say he wasn’t, but he was), until Pochettino came along. Eriksen was inconsistent and often a passenger. Kane had finished the previous season strongly but was still not fancied by most. Mason- no Spurs career whatsoever.

Pochettino improves young footballers, and when they have as much upside as Sessegnon does, even moreso. He scored 16 and made 8 as a 17 year old last year in the Championship. Even this season he has 6 assists for an awful team. The only player we have who has more is Eriksen and that’s in a side containing Harry Kane and Son, a team who has scored exactly twice as many goals at the point of typing.

Young and homegrown is the way forward. The only players, should they leave as expected, who need replacing with ready made stars are Eriksen and Alderweireld. Elsewhere, wherever players have hit a ceiling which just isn’t good enough (Lamela, the right backs, Wanyama), replenishing with young hungry talent with high potential is the way forward for us.

razzmaster · Apr 6, 2019

Sessegnon would be a bonus signing for me. Massive potential and very much a Poch project who would get game time next season in a few positions but not expected to start regularly. Priorities for me would be Ndombele, Wan-Bissaka, Lozano and Grealish. Any young British players such as Kelly, Aarons, Tierney, Clarke, James, Adams, Longstaff, Phillips etc could also be worth a punt.

danielneeds · Apr 6, 2019

allatsea said:
Sessegnon can't defend and Poch hasn't been very successful with Aurier or Trippier.

Unfair on Trippier. He turned him from a just promoted Champuonship player to one of the highest performing RBs in the league. The WC and the constant two years of football has seen Trippier drop his level physically and mentally, but he’s been a good player for us.

Aurier is just shite.

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