Player Watch: Juan Foyth
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king_yid
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What does HG have to do with this comparison?
The rule is if you turn 21 in the same year the season starts you still count as U21 for that season. For example KWP turned 21 in 2018 (and will turn 22 this season) but he is still counted as U21 for 18/19:
https://www.premierleague.com/news/844127
And Dele turned 21 in 2017/turned 22 in 2018 and counted as U21 in 17/18:
https://www.premierleague.com/news/465277
Foyth's 21st birthday is 12th Jan 2019, he will be U21 next season.
Paolo10
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So, even if you're 21 when the season starts you're counted as an Under 21 player? I stand corrected, even though that doesn't seem to make much sense.
I was more talking about the (ridiculous IMO) comparisons before he's played more than 3 games at PL level. The non-HG point is valid for the future, especially as it seems the FA are looking to increase the numbers of HG players in the league. (Edit: League rejected FA proposal on Thursday)
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LexingtonSpurs
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I think the best we can hope is that in 20 years, people are talking about the next big CB prospect as the next Juan Foyth.
SpursSince1980
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Clearly he has shown great potential over the last month. We already knew that he was highly sought after before we snatched him up. It's taken him over a year to finally make an impression at the senior level, and from the very small sample size we've seen there's a fair few reasons to be excited about his future.
What intrigues me, is when compared to other youth team CBs that have debuted for us over the last 15 years, none of them were immediately catapulted into their respective national team after a few snr games and then on their first match for their country win MoM. We all must admit that's fairly unique. Hence, why i get the hype. But at the same time, I'm a bit cynical, and won't truly believe he's something exceptional until I see him perform well over 20 or more games. Then I'll let myself get carried away and start comparing him to the greatest Argentinian center back of all time... MAURICIO!!!?
What intrigues me, is when compared to other youth team CBs that have debuted for us over the last 15 years, none of them were immediately catapulted into their respective national team after a few snr games and then on their first match for their country win MoM. We all must admit that's fairly unique. Hence, why i get the hype. But at the same time, I'm a bit cynical, and won't truly believe he's something exceptional until I see him perform well over 20 or more games. Then I'll let myself get carried away and start comparing him to the greatest Argentinian center back of all time... MAURICIO!!!?
longtimespur
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Well done to the lad on his debut
. Not many make that sort of impact on their first appearance for their national team.
. Not many make that sort of impact on their first appearance for their national team.
dtxspurs
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I think the plan should be to continue to build his confidence against lower opponents for the rest of the year. As long as we have Toby and Verts they should play the highest level of opponents but allow Foyth and Sanchez to build experience in games where we can rest the Belgians. It's a great group we have.
king_yid
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To be fair my opinion was more to his style than will he reach those heady heights. Whilst he and a young Ledley have many differences, it's just something about his movement and mannerisms that remind me of Ledley.
tevezito
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https://www.lanacion.com.ar/2192880-seleccion-argentina-renovacion-tiene-juan-foyth-zaguero
For those of you who read Spanish...
He gets bigged up as the leading light in the renewal of the Argentine squad.
For those of you who read Spanish...
He gets bigged up as the leading light in the renewal of the Argentine squad.
Japhet
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Same as everybody else but that was immediately translated into a comparison of their relative achievements in order to deflate the optimism. Apparently, stating that one player reminds you of another isn't acceptable to some.
Buggsy61
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Hope we don't go overboard and over play him at first, but this lad is developing so quickly and looks top class.
Was very impressed with him last year in his FA Cup cameos against some lumpish forwards from the lower leagues. He got roughed up a bit and took a bloody crack on the nose, but got up and got on with it. A centre half at any level needs a bit of steel and he seems to have it.
Was very impressed with him last year in his FA Cup cameos against some lumpish forwards from the lower leagues. He got roughed up a bit and took a bloody crack on the nose, but got up and got on with it. A centre half at any level needs a bit of steel and he seems to have it.
Paolo10
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No, it's about having a bit of perspective, respecting some of the greatest players to play the game and not overhyping yet another young player to the ever growing list.
He's a centre half that is comfortable on the ball and technical, that's practically every good centre half in the modern game.
He doesn't have anywhere near the strength of Ledley anyway, I doubt he will due to his frame...hopefully better luck with injuries than the King in his future though.
At the moment, John Stones would be a fairer comparison IMO... and Juan seems less risky (or confident as you'd see it) on the ball than Stones was at that stage at Everton...mind you he played 26 times (21 League games) in his breakthrough season when they finished above us in 5th.
That was the last match of the season we won 1-0 when Stones gave the home fans palpitations with some outrageous confidence in his own box (think he gave Sonny a bit of a run-a-round in the 2nd half especially).
Come to think of it, at the same age I'd rate John Stones a little higher than Foyth, but tbf Stones had played a lot more competitive football.
Japhet
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Really? So in other words you think he's no more than average with the ball at his feet.
Ossie85
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People in Argentina are raving about Foyth a lot more than what is going on in this forum, specially after last game against Mexico.
Most say he played like a 30yr old who's played in the national team for 10 years.
Maybe it is not that we are overhyping him, but it's that you just don't see it yet. I admit not seeing what the fuss was about in the first couple of games
