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The Summer Transfer Window POST MORTEM THREAD

rabbikeane

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We would have made room in the squad for top class signings, but it's a point that there were no slots available for depth players. We didnt' need numbers, just one or two improvements.
We're low on home grown (club trained, association trained), Davies isn't home grown for UEFA and Foyth need to be registered to play in UEFA so takes a spot there.

1 LLORIS
2 VORM
3 GAZZANIGA
4 TRIPPIER
5 AURIER
6 SANCHEZ
7 ALDERWEIRELD
8 VERTONGHEN
9 (FOYTH / Foyth)
10 OGILVIE
11 DAVIES
12 ROSE
13 DIER
14 WANYAMA
15 DEMBELE
16 WINKS
17 SISSOKO
18 ERIKSEN
19 LAMELA
20 LUCAS
21 DELE
22 N'KOUDOU
23 SON
24 LLORENTE
25 KANE


JANSSEN

Walker-Peters, Eyoma, Carter-Vickers, Amos, Oakley-Boothe, Onomah, Skipp, Marsh, Georgiou, Harrison, Sterling

UEFA rules probably mean Foyth won't be registered again
 
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lazypoodle

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For me, I'm stupidly optimistic. I'm hoping all of this was captured as part of the analysis, and there is some next step we're not seeing that causes the market structure to change in the next 24 months, and with it, we find ourselves positioned in a superior way to handle the new market everyone else has to live in. I hope Liverpool way overpaid for their talent, that in a few years they'll be unable to recoup their spending. I hope United and City eat it too.

I think the biggest loser this window is Chelsea, I think by having no one out and no one in, Spurs didn't improve externally, but they didn't lose ground. I know people believe that we lost ground because "everyone else improved!" but I look at the signings and I'm not convinced any of them are a sure thing. If you look at the top signings by position this window, none of them are unquestionably world class and possible for Spurs to obtain. So, I don't think we "lost" in the market.

Arsenal's signings aren't exactly mind blowing.

United clearly are at risk of losing ground, given the Pogba rumours.

City, well, is City, and I don't expect much to change there.

Liverpool probably improved short term, and again, maybe they leveraged their future to do so.

All in all, I think this window was bad, but I don't think it's a total disaster. We can't have any busts if we didn't spend the money, and we are retaining our talent instead of having to replace it. The narrative for several windows was that Spurs can't keep their amazing squad. Well, they're all still here.

A few more contract renewals, and this window gets a C-.
 

SdB

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Aug 23, 2013
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Walob the club has pushing out on social media this summer.

Same shit will start again for the Jan window so don't get suckered in

Seen it before too many times and the ending is just too predictable. Levy seems need to need to get big money in before he spends big money. With no-one wanting our overrated 'stars'' no incomings.

Zaha, Martial blah blah - walob.
 

SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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I see Everton bring in 3 players in 10 minutes and it makes me irrationally irate. This whole window just feels like a colossal fuck up from a brand perspective. Yes, it shows we can hold on to what we have, but it also shows we don't have enough bravery and ambition to take a risk or two.

Ive always been a fan of Levy but today I'm utterly livid with him.
 
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EaMidSpurs

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To Dare is To Do...so it says on our new home anyway.
But never mind we do have europes biggest club shop, huge new ticket office, sliding pitch, cheese room & the most expensive tickets in the country to look forward it.

Same again next year when the season ticket renewals come around...we'll have a gazillion pounds to spend so we will be told but then at the end of the transfer window we will be told that there was nobody good enough for us to sign...at the right price lol.

And by the way...where the f has my ticket for the Fulham match got to?
 

George94

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Feb 1, 2015
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Most people on this forum saw this coming a mile off.

Same old shit, same old story.

But we were all told to 'stop melting' and to judge Levy and our business at the end of the window.

Well...here we are.
 

aussie spur

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I think we were f_ed from the start. Deadwood and quotas and Toby's last day possible sale scared the crap out of levy in terms of being sure about transfer income and what losses he might suffer if he in fact tried to move out unwanted players. We had no flexibility. With the stadium bleeding money, the recent crazy prices and the stupid vote for the window ending early it was a perfect shitstorm.

I also blame levy for his role in past windows buying cheap options many of which were not the type of player we were seeking, or were raw or clearly limited players, which actually was higher risk than spending more on better quality (not necc worldies, but better quality in terms of squad players like support strikers,extra mids etc). He was heavily responsible for the mess we found ourselves in.

If we can shift a VJ and GKN in the next few weeks, then next window we should have guaranteed departures in dembele, llorente and probably Toby, which will free up quota space and so levy will have to fall back on the fact that they will all leave on frees or buyout clauses to justify not buying again. Then we can sink the boot a bit deeper.
 

U.S. Spurs Fan

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Pretty good wrap up there A&C.

Levy's arrogance and ego got the best of him. He thought he could do what he always could do (offer much less on purchases and get teams to crack in the end) but it didn't work. It hasn't worked in a while which is why I am puzzled he hasn't changed. He isn't an idiot. This is where arrogance comes in. He has not adjusted to obvious changes in the market and until he does, we as fans could continue to see windows like this.

I don't buy the info that Poch is totally OK with this, and A&C said, everytime this team struggles, the topic will be brought up. That's unfortunate but Levy made the bed and now Poch and the team gets to sleep in it. I hope there are no major injuries because if there are, my guess is top 4 streak will be over. Just isn't enough quality depth to overcome losing Eriksen or Kane for a significant period of time.

The most disappointing part of this is that if Levy won't "go for it" in a window like this where you have a young, promising team coming off three straight top 3 finishes along with a brand new stadium, when exactly will he "go for it"? When will he "dare to do"? If he couldn't do it right here, then I fear he will never do it, because there was not a more picture-perfect time to take a risk and go for it that this window.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Sep 2, 2013
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In this current market and with the way that agents are behaving, even ranting is difficult to complete even though I have the funds to do it
 

SdB

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I'm actually more excited for the season than I would be if we had done our usual of 2 or 3 new signings.

I love our squad and have huge hopes for it over the next few years.

Can't wait to see how our young team does now that they are a year older and stronger and with some very successful world cup experiences under their belts.

Didn;t an ITK say at the end of last season when we were struggling that Poch knew we needed different options e.g pacey wide men.

Teams when they sit deep against us know that we struggle to open them up.

Well we got nothing. I can only hope that Poch gives Lucas more time this year rather than splinters on the bench. Otherwise there could be some tough watching ahead.
 

dtxspurs

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I don't understand how we went from clear CM targets... to fucking nothing. It seems pretty obvious we were very interested in Ndombele, I still believe we always wanted Kovacic, there was no one in all of world football after them?
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Aug 5, 2013
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For me, I'm stupidly optimistic. I'm hoping all of this was captured as part of the analysis, and there is some next step we're not seeing that causes the market structure to change in the next 24 months, and with it, we find ourselves positioned in a superior way to handle the new market everyone else has to live in. I hope Liverpool way overpaid for their talent, that in a few years they'll be unable to recoup their spending. I hope United and City eat it too.

I think the biggest loser this window is Chelsea, I think by having no one out and no one in, Spurs didn't improve externally, but they didn't lose ground. I know people believe that we lost ground because "everyone else improved!" but I look at the signings and I'm not convinced any of them are a sure thing. If you look at the top signings by position this window, none of them are unquestionably world class and possible for Spurs to obtain. So, I don't think we "lost" in the market.

Arsenal's signings aren't exactly mind blowing.

United clearly are at risk of losing ground, given the Pogba rumours.

City, well, is City, and I don't expect much to change there.

Liverpool probably improved short term, and again, maybe they leveraged their future to do so.

All in all, I think this window was bad, but I don't think it's a total disaster. We can't have any busts if we didn't spend the money, and we are retaining our talent instead of having to replace it. The narrative for several windows was that Spurs can't keep their amazing squad. Well, they're all still here.

A few more contract renewals, and this window gets a C-.

To be fair Chelsea signed Jorginho, Kovacic and a new keeper to replace Courtois without Losing Hazard or Willian...i wouldnt say they were losers to be fair.
 

mattyspurs

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Jan 31, 2005
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Fuck me @Archibald&Crooks thst was very restrained, I felt a lot more would be coming from you.

I am a BSoDL but I agree with every word you say.

Our first 11 is fantastic, as shown by the players who only came back from the World Cup on Monday, and it is extremely difficult to find a player let alone find the signing of a player who would walk into that first 11.

The only one I’m most gutted about, no two I’m most gutted about is Toby/Martial, I’d love to know what went on here.

Also Grealish, I know most on here were meh about him, but I was quite excited about getting him.

Oh well, season starts Saturday and I can’t wait
 

biscuit

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Copied over from another thread.

Ok. For context I’ll say that I remember Spurs getting relegated in the seventies. I went to games during the late nineties. An August in my early twenties often involved staring at the league table on Teletext because we were in the top three, or in December, wondering if we were going to finish the season with a positive goal difference, or March, hoping that we might just sneak a top ten finish.

I think what Daniel Levy has done for Spurs is quite remarkable. He and ENIC have gradually put the club on a stable financial footing that means we are (hopefully) a million miles away from the Scholar Years. And much of the football we have played during his tenure has been a joy to behold, particularly under the stewardship of Poch and Harry. And now, with a promising young team training each day in a state-of-the-art facility, and the awesome new stadium set to welcome us, it all looks like things are falling into place. Why, then, does something feel so sorely amiss? I think it’s all about our motto: Audere est Facere.

We have, in my opinion, the best manager in the league. Pep’s great, yes, and his achievements are legendary. But after Barca he goes to mainland Europe’s version of the Scottish Premiership, and after Bayern there’s City with all their oil money and pulling power. Poch believes in the intangible – sensing a person’s energy, their passion, their willingness to engage and to trust him, and to go further than they ever thought possible. That is how we achieved three top three finishes, and prospered in the rarified air of the Champion’s League. Not because of a tidy balance sheet, or smart new facilities. It’s because of those human traits of trust and belief and a shared responsibility. And bound up within those is the very essence of Spurs: To Dare Is To Do.

I don’t care much for football now. I think it’s generally twenty-two overpaid blokes trying to con the poor sod in the middle, or two managers blaming others for their own failings. But trying to dislike Tottenham Hotspur because of that is like trying to hate my wife because I don’t tolerate Tories, or racists. So, I follow Spurs. And when I do, all the other teams fall away. I don’t care what goals they score, what trophies they win, what they spend or who they sign. But what I do hope is that when a true moment comes at my club then someone is there who can sense it, and can act upon it. We have an unusual situation right now – unprecedented some might say. We have a manager whose move out of the club is likely to be to a better one, rather than simply clutching his P45 and lamenting a lack of time. And we have a group of players that have consistently punched above their weight these past three years. Now is the time to back each of these people, to add one or two cogs that would make the machine they have created spin just a bit better. They don’t have to be expensive pieces, or makes that we’ve all heard of. But they need to be there. And then, who knows where we could go together? What I fear will happen is the existing machine will end up losing three or four key components in twelve months’ time.

I am not angry, nor am I ‘spitting my dummy out’. And it is not the end of the world. I have seen that a couple of times in recent years and this most definitely isn’t that. But it’s a chance missed, and for a club that still echoes to the words of Bill Nick and Danny Blanchflower, that makes me very sad indeed.
 

homer hotspur

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Whilst we have a decent squad, it's pretty clear we were looking to strengthen 2 or 3 positions - we all know which ones- to keep us competitive within the top 6. I am sure the players themselves would have welcomed some new faces/re-inforcements.
Shambolic window. Levy has definitely lost his touch and it is now working against us.
 

Woland

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May 18, 2006
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This is the story the famous Levi Strauss logo tells us in a nutshell: Head coach and Chairman are flogging their horses into opposite directions (early preseason vs late best deal) over a signing, and the signings often happen to be pants.

Although a non-paying member of the BSoDL society myself, this is how it looks to me in layman’s terms.

levisTr.jpg
 
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