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dontcallme · Sep 17, 2017

Just seen the fight. Golovkin was around 4 rounds up in my estimation.

Both fighters were solid. Golvkin caught more shots and was the agressor but Canelo was more accurate.

brendanb50 · Sep 18, 2017

dontcallme said:
Just seen the fight. Golovkin was around 4 rounds up in my estimation.

Both fighters were solid. Golvkin caught more shots and was the agressor but Canelo was more accurate.

Both excellent fighters and as wrong as i think the result is, i won't be too sad to see them square up again.

Love watching GGG just keep moving forward though, it's amazing given some of the shots he took in that fight. Must be horrendous for an opponent to think you've rocked him with a clean shot and he just shakes it off and comes back for more.

dontcallme · Sep 18, 2017

brendanb50 said:
Both excellent fighters and as wrong as i think the result is, i won't be too sad to see them square up again.

Love watching GGG just keep moving forward though, it's amazing given some of the shots he took in that fight. Must be horrendous for an opponent to think you've rocked him with a clean shot and he just shakes it off and comes back for more.

In a way it would have been a more exciting fight if they had glass jaws. Both got caught with very solid shots but kept going.

Meant the crowd didn't have the excitement factor of believing a knock out was potentially on its way.

brendanb50 · Sep 18, 2017

dontcallme said:
In a way it would have been a more exciting fight if they had glass jaws. Both got caught with very solid shots but kept going.

Meant the crowd didn't have the excitement factor of believing a knock out was potentially on its way.

Agree, a couple more wobbles would have built the excitement. Testament to the standard of the two boxers though that they're not easily beaten like that. It will take something special to win by knock out in the presumed rematch.

I'm just pleased to see the two best in their weight division fighting for a change rather than talking about it for a decade and fighting when past their prime. More boxers should be willing to put it on the line like this and like they used to.

poc · Sep 20, 2017

Jake LaMotta died, didn't know he was still alive! RIP. Obviously main source of knowledge about him was from raging bull, still the greatest boxing movie of all time imo. Considering he was renowned for fighting a bit with his face 95 is some innings

Insomnia · Sep 20, 2017

Rip Jake, his book was one of my favourites of all time,such an interesting character & a warrior too

Bensonrecon · Sep 21, 2017

So Ward has retired. Must be scared of Rio

Seriously though just a shame he had all the legal issues with Goosen. That inactivity robbed us of some massive potential fights

JAYSTAR · Sep 21, 2017

For me, Canelo was the better fighter. Really accurate and his punches much more impacting. Just because GGG keeps walking forward and throwing punches in a way that reminds me of the bad terminator in terminator 3, doesn't mean he deserves to score points. The vast majority of his punches deflected off gloves or arms and rarely did we see Canelo's head go back.

It always amazes me how people see fights so differently. I honestly saw the fight (seen it twice now) as a 3 or 4 round win to Canelo. Hope there is a re-match. I reckon Canelo will win. GGG reminds me of an old man in the way that he moves, powerful - without doubt, but slow and predictable, with very few combinations. I thought Canelo's forrays were quality.

Mullers · Sep 22, 2017

Bensonrecon said:
So Ward has retired. Must be scared of Rio

Seriously though just a shame he had all the legal issues with Goosen. That inactivity robbed us of some massive potential fights

According to Kovalev he retired because of him.

"He hear yesterday about me [that I'm returning] and now he's retired. It's the reason [he retired]. It's the reason, I'm back. In a few fights it should be our third fight and now he stopped his career. I said before the [second] fight that I would stop his boxing career. I said, and yes it's true. It's true," Kovalev told TMZ Sports.

What an absolutely dick that guy is.

Bensonrecon · Sep 22, 2017

JAYSTAR said:
For me, Canelo was the better fighter. Really accurate and his punches much more impacting. Just because GGG keeps walking forward and throwing punches in a way that reminds me of the bad terminator in terminator 3, doesn't mean he deserves to score points. The vast majority of his punches deflected off gloves or arms and rarely did we see Canelo's head go back.

It always amazes me how people see fights so differently. I honestly saw the fight (seen it twice now) as a 3 or 4 round win to Canelo. Hope there is a re-match. I reckon Canelo will win. GGG reminds me of an old man in the way that he moves, powerful - without doubt, but slow and predictable, with very few combinations. I thought Canelo's forrays were quality.

Respect that you disagree with me but the compubox stats say it all

https://twitter.com/AndreasHale/status/909284518133039104/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.si.com/boxing/2017/09/17/canelo-vs-ggg-judges-scorecards-compubox-stats

Golovkin has been a straight ahead fighter for a while now as for the most part he isn't scared of anyone's power in that division. Last time he was cagey due to someone else's reputation as a big hitter was vs Lemieux.

Like you say people see fights differently and I can totally get why people would see it the other way but for me Canelo started virtually all rounds strongly but faded after the first minute allowing Golovkin to throw more as the round wore on. Same token THAT is what pissed me off. Golovkin has one of, if not the most, feared hooks to the body in the sport yet he spent 12 rounds trying to headhunt. More bodywork like he showed against Macklin or Lemieux and I don't think Canelo would even be in with a sniff of a draw and arguably wouldn't have gone the distance. His never ending quest for this "Good drama show" nonsense stopped him taking his biggest scalp to date.

Bensonrecon · Sep 22, 2017

Mullers said:
According to Kovalev he retired because of him.

"He hear yesterday about me [that I'm returning] and now he's retired. It's the reason [he retired]. It's the reason, I'm back. In a few fights it should be our third fight and now he stopped his career. I said before the [second] fight that I would stop his boxing career. I said, and yes it's true. It's true," Kovalev told TMZ Sports.

What an absolutely dick that guy is.

lol a dick for sure but with the controversy in both fights I can get why he's trying to goad him for a trilogy. That and beyond Stevenson and Badou Jack there's no real money in another matchup at LW with Ward gone

SugarRay · Sep 22, 2017

I personally cannot see any way Canelo won that fight. He simply didn't do enough work. He did some nice work but just not enough of it.

Compubox and various points nah stats never tell the full story of a fight though, it's not worth paying too much attention to them to be honest.

Kovalev has always been a complete prick. It can be argued he simply quit against Ward in the 2nd fight when things weren't going his way.

mpickard2087 · Sep 23, 2017

Anyone just seen the shitfest between Parker and Fury? More dodgy scorecards as two of them gave Parker an overly generous 118-110 with the other drawn, the first half of the fight Parker may have connected with more headbutts than punches :LOL:

Bensonrecon · Sep 24, 2017

surprised they had a scorecard at all I'd have lost focus before that anthem finished.

Only entertainment was Tyson, in what must have been a fat suit, windmilling his arms at Rob Smith

Mullers · Sep 24, 2017

Parker clearly won that fight in my book, there was very little quality coming from Fury at all. Parker vs Whyte I think would be a good match up.

SugarRay · Sep 25, 2017

The victim mentality of the older Fury's is embarrassing.

Hughie lost that fight, despite his dad funding the whole thing and making sure he secured home advantage in a bid to nab a world title belt. He didn't deserve the shot in the first place and has never beaten anyone in the top 30.
I suspect the promotion lost a small fortune and was a calculated risk ( he wins, they lose money but it builds a unification with Joshua...payday!!! )

Hughie is young and can come again, there is a bit to work with there too, very good footwork and movement but absolutely zero power and far too negative. Peter Fury cannot train fighters to be anything other than negative. Big Tyson was schooled by someone else and always enjoys a huge size advantage so takes more risks.

It's an achievement that the younger Fury's have turned out to be relatively nice and very successful people given the generation that brought them up. Proper wrong un's.

riggi · Oct 10, 2017

Frank Bruno on a one show special on now.

Gravy12 · Oct 25, 2017

Takam broken hand rumour

Lamelaaaaaa · Oct 26, 2017

Gravy12 said:
Takam broken hand rumour

hmmm and if he does pull out of the fight, who does Hearn have to replace him? I would've loved to see Joshua fight Wilder, but Wilder has a fight on November 4th... i guess it will have to wait until the new year.

Wellspurs · Oct 28, 2017

What time are we expecting the Joshua fight to start approx?

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