Summer Transfer Wish List - 2017

stevenurse · Mar 30, 2017

Selling Son would be crazy and unless he aggravates for a move I don't see it happening.

I don't think Levy's pride would let him spend £40m on Dembele when we could have got him for a nominal fee last summer.

It's funny as I think the next 3 games are key to Janssen's future. If he comes in and shows he's capable then he'll be given another season, and maybe if Son proves he can cover as that would potentially buy him another season as we can be somewhat assured that the pressure isn't solely on him. But in reality he's probably toast, pochettino doesn't seem the sentimental type.

It's so hard for the coaching staff and I'm willing to forgive them for a few hit/miss transfers as our strongest XI is arguably the strongest in the league and to get adequate back ups and to keep them happy without paying mega money is tough.

What player that is good enough to either start for another top 6 club, or sit on the bench for £150,000 a week, will want to be a rotation option at us for half that?

Players like Trippier and Son are so valuable as they are willing back ups that are generally extremely capable of filling in.

Trees · Mar 30, 2017

Sell to buy this summer. Especially with the new stadium.

samsonlevi · Mar 30, 2017

I wouldn't sell Son.

However, if the reports we true that last summer he was considering a move away due to not being a guaranteed starter (returning to Germany). Then I could see him being interested again this year if a team comes calling. Hope not.

He is a very good player who still could improve.

dontcallme · Mar 30, 2017

samsonlevi said:
I wouldn't sell Son.

However, if the reports we true that last summer he was considering a move away due to not being a guaranteed starter (returning to Germany). Then I could see him being interested again this year if a team comes calling. Hope not.

He is a very good player who still could improve.

That's the problem with squad players. Many players will only want this role for a certain period of time.

Chadli had an excellent goal and assist rate but understandably wanted first team football after 3 years as a squad player.

Son is getting more game time now and hopefully another season of CL football will give him more chances to play. Don't want to lose him but would understand if he wants to play more.

Sandro30 · Mar 30, 2017

Dahoud is off to Dortmund according to the German press (turned down Liverpool) so that's one off the dream list.

Lemon · Mar 30, 2017

Sandro30 said:
Dahoud is off to Dortmund according to the German press (turned down Liverpool) so that's one off the dream list.

Always nice to see Liverpool getting rejected though.

guy · Mar 30, 2017

Sandro30 said:
Dahoud is off to Dortmund according to the German press (turned down Liverpool) so that's one off the dream list.

Dortmund are snapping up all the best young talent across Europe, for bargain basement prices. Fucken ell

Lolerpool hahaha

ljinko888 · Mar 30, 2017

dontcallme said:
That's the problem with squad players. Many players will only want this role for a certain period of time.

Chadli had an excellent goal and assist rate but understandably wanted first team football after 3 years as a squad player.

Son is getting more game time now and hopefully another season of CL football will give him more chances to play. Don't want to lose him but would understand if he wants to play more.

It's true but If you're successful and on the right track squad players will be more inclined to stay as they're a part of something special. Competing for the highest honours, picking up medals and a very good wage too. It will take a very headstrong player to voluntarily walk away from that. Usually the clubs turf them out as part of a revolving door policy.

We are not good enough yet to sell our better players out of choice IMO. We are still some way off the tier one clubs who can afford to make mistakes. Especially with the new stadium and financial restraints we'll have in the interim. We've done the hard bit of putting together a very talented youthful squad who are doing well and will get better. We've done it on the cheap too. Everything is in place for a road to glory when we complete the move to the new stadium but for that we need stability in the next year.

Hopefully the academy continues to produce youngsters who have the capability of playing in the PL. It's a wonderful thing for the club and fans on fundamental terms but even more-so in the coming years.

dontcallme · Mar 30, 2017

ljinko888 said:
It's true but If you're successful and on the right track squad players will be more inclined to stay as they're a part of something special. Competing for the highest honours, picking up medals and a very good wage too. It will take a very headstrong player to voluntarily walk away from that. Usually the clubs turf them out as part of a revolving door policy.

We are not good enough yet to sell our better players out of choice IMO. We are still some way off the tier one clubs who can afford to make mistakes. Especially with the new stadium and financial restraints we'll have in the interim. We've done the hard bit of putting together a very talented youthful squad who are doing well and will get better. We've done it on the cheap too. Everything is in place for a road to glory when we complete the move to the new stadium but for that we need stability in the next year.

Hopefully the academy continues to produce youngsters who have the capability of playing in the PL. It's a wonderful thing for the club and fans on fundamental terms but even more-so in the coming years.

Sure but the other point is that squad players are much more likely to perform if they are determined and focused. They need to stay very sharp despite not playing regular football.

If a player has been a squad player and wants to leave then it is probably best to sell regardless of their attributes. I don't think we'd have sold Chaldi through choice. If we sell Son this summer my guess it will be because he wants it rather than us accepting an offer.

THFCSPURS19 · Mar 30, 2017

Sandro30 said:
Dahoud is off to Dortmund according to the German press (turned down Liverpool) so that's one off the dream list.

Really not bothered after Winks's progress this season.

Dharmabum · Mar 30, 2017

Sweech said:
Also to all those who want to sell Son.

Who has more PL goals this season? Heung-Min Son or Phillipe Coutinho?

Who has more PL assists this season? Heung-Min Son or Phillipe Coutinho?

Food for thought.

Son has scored 7 PL goal while Coutinho has 6.
Son has 3 PL assists while Coutinho has 5.

Son's more of a striker type than Coutinho, whose task is more of being a play-maker. He's caused plenty of trouble in his games against Spurs and is valued higher than Son by most clubs.

“There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
- Benjamin Disraeli

“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
- Mark Twain

tiger666 · Mar 30, 2017

Dharmabum said:
Son has scored 7 PL goal while Coutinho has 6.
Son has 3 PL assists while Coutinho has 5.

Son's more of a striker type than Coutinho, whose task is more of being a play-maker. He's caused plenty of trouble in his games against Spurs and is valued higher than Son by most clubs.

“There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
- Benjamin Disraeli

“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
- Mark Twain

Son has 7 goals 6 assists. Coutinho has 6 goals 5 assists.

Dharmabum · Mar 30, 2017

Sweech said:
My personal take is Son is a proven squad goal scorer and assister.

DO NOT sell him unless you get the improvement in the building and he proves he's better than Son. In essentially the same way as Son showed he was better than Chadli.

It would be mind numbingly fucking stupid to let a proven scoring commodity go for a promise of improvement. As we don't have an embarrassment of riches with finances or with squad depth to be making those types of gambles.

I see your point, and agree that unless quality replacements are lined up then Spurs should not let him go.
However, as I have pointed out before

tiger666 said:
Son has 7 goals 6 assists. Coutinho has 6 goals 5 assists.

Ok, I stand corrected.
I used the stats from this link which says 3 assists:
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/91909/Show/Son-Heung-Min

But in this link it says 6 assists
http://www.transfermarkt.com/heung-min-son/profil/spieler/91845

Shadydan · Mar 30, 2017

Dharmabum said:
Son has scored 7 PL goal while Coutinho has 6.
Son has 3 PL assists while Coutinho has 5.

Son's more of a striker type than Coutinho, whose task is more of being a play-maker. He's caused plenty of trouble in his games against Spurs and is valued higher than Son by most clubs.

“There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
- Benjamin Disraeli

“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
- Mark Twain

A playmaker who has in fact less assists than 'more of a striker type' playing for a team who are the highest scorers in the league.

Food for thought...

danielneeds · Mar 30, 2017

Coutinho is one of the most over-hyped players in world football. Terrific ability, but rarely produces consistently. He'll be 25 soon, too, no longer a young prospect.

Bus-Conductor · Mar 30, 2017

Sweech said:
Who has more PL assists this season? Heung-Min Son or Phillipe Coutinho?

Coutinho (5 to Son's 3) ?

Sweech said:
Also to all those who want to sell Son.

Who has more PL goals this season? Heung-Min Son or Phillipe Coutinho?

Who has more PL assists this season? Heung-Min Son or Phillipe Coutinho?

Food for thought.

It's not really though is it. Coutinho is a completely different type of player. He sees nearly double the ball Son does in games, played more of an Eriksen role, part playmaker, part auxiliary midfielder, part attacker. As well as seeing nearly double the amount of ball he makes more chances and key passes than Son too.

I wouldn't swap Coutinho for Eriksen, but you are over hyping (see what I did there) Son somewhat and the comparison with Coutinho is pretty bogus.

A better comparison for Son and his remit would probably be Firminho:

dovahkiin · Mar 30, 2017

edmonton: I usually stay clear of transfer posts but just to say the Club are very confident he is going nowhere.
on dier

Bus-Conductor · Mar 30, 2017

danielneeds said:
Coutinho is one of the most over-hyped players in world football.Terrific ability, but rarely produces consistently. He'll be 25 soon, too, no longer a young prospect.

I'm not sure he is that over hyped. He's a very good all round offensive player, scores, assists, creates but also makes an average of 55 passes a game, works hard off the ball and is being asked to do a slightly different role under Klopp.

I think it's more a case of Eriksen being under rated, or under hyped tbh.

danielneeds · Mar 30, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
I'm not sure he is that over hyped. He's a very good all round offensive player, scores, assists, creates but also makes an average of 55 passes a game, works hard off the ball and is being asked to do a slightly different role under Klopp.

I think it's more a case of Eriksen being under rated, or under hyped tbh.

I agree, that he maybe has had to adapt under Klopp, but the way he's portrayed in the Liverpool-centric media you'd think he'd had breakout seasons like Hazard, Mahrez etc. Scoring and assisting 20+ goals.

brb627 · Mar 30, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
I'm not sure he is that over hyped. He's a very good all round offensive player, scores, assists, creates but also makes an average of 55 passes a game, works hard off the ball and is being asked to do a slightly different role under Klopp.

I think it's more a case of Eriksen being under rated, or under hyped tbh.

This. Rarely post on here, but the level of delusion in even implying Son is better than Coutinho is almost RAWK level delusion. We're better than that (I hope).

For the record I would take Coutinho in a second here. Alright, I can move on with my life now...

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