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I think it’ll be interesting to see if Ange can still be successful for us when we become the unquestioned best team in the world and no longer can lean into the underdog mentality. That will be the real test.
I think it’ll be interesting to see if Ange can still be successful for us when we become the unquestioned best team in the world and no longer can lean into the underdog mentality. That will be the real test.
I think it’ll be interesting to see if Ange can still be successful for us when we become the unquestioned best team in the world and no longer can lean into the underdog mentality. That will be the real test.
Sure but the academy has only really started to blossom the last year so we just need to be patient. We need continous success at that level before we start seeing them come in at this level. Bottom line is if they show enough quality in training then Ange has shown age isn't an issue. There's a big jump from youth level to the Premier League so we still need to bridge the gap before throwing them in. This league doesn't allow much opportunity to experiment and we don't have European games against low level opponents where we can test them out. I think the issue is his style of football is very advanced and requires genuine quality to play it. We also haven't been comfortable enough in a lot of games to bring them on and test them.Correct - but all those you name (except Donley) are players we have bought in, the point Hercules made and I supported is about our own academy players.
Thought he would have won the last CL and PL using only 16 to 18 year oldsThe real test will be when we’ve won 3 Champions Leagues, 4 Premier Leagues, and 2 FA Cups whether Ange is using the academy properly.
That’s what I always end up doing on FM HG players only!Thought he would have won the last CL and PL using only 16 to 18 year olds
Maybe that's because our academy players are all a couple of years younger, at least?Correct - but all those you name (except Donley) are players we have bought in, the point Hercules made and I supported is about our own academy players.
And invariably when they do get game time for many the fan verdict ends up somewhere between "theyre ok as a 3rd option squad player" or "not good enough". In reality that is the level of player that populates most academies when the context is a team/club looking to establish a permanent top 4/title contender level.
IMO it's about sustainability and success over the long term.This won’t be popular but I’ve never really seen what all the fuss is about with regards to ‘using the acedemy’
All I want is success, and if possible playing good football.
I couldn’t really give 2 hoots if our players have come though our academy or if we bought them from a dodgy Chinese seller on eBay.
If I’m really honest I find the obsession about using the academy a bit odd.
Love him
I think an academy is important for lots of reasons. Keeps links with the local community (primarily), gives kids something to dream about and promotes sustainability. What I don't get is the incessant chatter about "throw the kids in" every time a club goes through a bad run (this is definitely not exclusive to us). How often do you hear/see "these bunch of overpaid pricks don't care about the shirt, throw the kids in."This won’t be popular but I’ve never really seen what all the fuss is about with regards to ‘using the acedemy’
All I want is success, and if possible playing good football.
I couldn’t really give 2 hoots if our players have come though our academy or if we bought them from a dodgy Chinese seller on eBay.
If I’m really honest I find the obsession about using the academy a bit odd.
I think an academy is important for lots of reasons. Keeps links with the local community (primarily), gives kids something to dream about and promotes sustainability. What I don't get is the incessant chatter about "throw the kids in" every time a club goes through a bad run (this is definitely not exclusive to us). How often do you hear/see "these bunch of overpaid pricks don't care about the shirt, throw the kids in."
I stop paying attention once I see that sort of nonsense.
Agreed that's part of it and would come under sustainability for me. You get a handful into the first team, you sell most on.The academy is a revenue producing business unit knocking out footballers to lower level league clubs for small units of cash. Now and again you may come across a gem that’s better than the others. If you’re thinking otherwise then you are prob misguided. It’s there to sell our homegrown on.
This is class!
I’d love to see Big Ange & Martin Jol in a WWE tag team cage match against Legohead Arteta and gobshite Klopp *someone photoshop this*Did you see how quickly the Bournemouth coach(?) gobbing off backs away once Ange steps in? Big Martin Jol vibes.