Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

olliec said:

I read it somewhere maybe it was bullshit. I hope it was.

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Just because it's written down doesn't mean it's true.

Don't people know the difference between a bone fide news site and a blog anymore?

13VanDerBale13 said:

Spurs twitter admin posting match highlights
Don’t think he’s getting sacked tonight lads

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i see there is no Conte Post Match interview on the Spurs site though

DanielJohnCosta said:

go to a club with an open chequebook mate, it's the only way you succeed

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But... But... He's elite!?

I've just watched his full presser and I don't think he was having a go at the Club particulalrly at all. He's furious with the players and has been for some time and it's all come out because nothing else has worked.

I've been Conte out for some time but mainly because of the contract situation and not feeling he's bought in. Oddly enough this reaction makes me feel like he cares and paradoxically makes me want him to stay for the first time.

I'm a fucking masochist

I’m still undecided if he’s actually just calling the players out and the bit about the owner has been mis-construed?

On the reason for the players attitude:
It is easy in this way. Tottenham's story is this. Twenty years there is the owner and they never won something but why? The fault is only for the club, or for every manager that stay here?

For me what he’s saying in that last part is ‘should the fault always be with the club (owners), all the managers, or actually the players’

Why is everyone so convinced he’s called out the owners?

muppetman said:

I'd actually say my respect for him has gone up.

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It shouldn’t. Whatever you believe or think about the board, Antonio has one thing on his mind right now, and that’s himself.

Wrong team selection? Board’s fault, players’ performance. Bad result? Board’s constant underperformance, players not following orders.

I’ve been very much in favour of him being backed, but he’s crossed a line for me tonight. He’s threatened to throw the club under the bus for a while, but gone for it tonight. He’s not wrong in general, but he’s using it/the club as ammo to protect himself. Selfish, underhanded and manipulative.

Locotoro said:

People only need to look at Arsenal as the case study.

Last season: Complete mental fragility from players and coach. Could not get over the line even if their lives depended on it.

This season: Same coach, same system, same approach, but you add 2 players from a team with peak winning mentality (not even world class players just very good) and you have a new mentality that starts to raise the bar

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Perisic came from Inter, Longlet from Barcelona, we signed two players from Juventus the season before. It doesn't seem to be working...

That he's getting any credit tonight for digging the club out as a dead cat on the table to cover for his own failings is a bit much for me. Of course some of what he says is true, and we all already know it to be the case, but he's only going there now as cover for his own plentiful failings as he knows that the end is nigh and needs to make as much of this not look like his fault as possible.

Plenty about the way we're playing and these results is his fault.

Always felt he was the wrong guy for this club back when we went after him before Nuno, and it's panned out even worse than I'd feared ffs.

Harrier said:

Sorry, but elite managers don’t go out of the FA cup with a whimper against a makeshift Sheffield side. Levy didn’t bench Harry Kane for a vital game, Levy didn’t play Moura over Danjuma through stubbornness, Levy didn’t continue to play Son despite incredibly poor form etc. etc.

I really do think your obvious dislike for Levy clouds your objectivity at times.

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Every single manager has gone out of the FA Cup at one stage or another in the last 32 years since we last won it. In the last 24 years we’ve had 90 competitions we could have won, and we won 1 league cup. We might be a big club in terms of money, stadium, fans but in terms of success we are very small in my lifetime. The issue at Spurs is so much bigger than which guy picks the starting 11. Forget elite managers, we need a miracle worker to get a trophy through our doors.

cjsimba said:

Why is everyone so convinced he’s called out the owners?

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Probably the part about the club winning only one trophy in the last 20 years

Harrier said:

You start with your strongest side including Kane, then take the big hitters off when you’ve won the game by half time.

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How many games have we won by half time this season?

The team had more than enough quality to win comfortably - the problem is we aren't playing with confidence and on the front foot, even against lowly teams. We aren't set up to play like the dominant force. For a manager who is so aggressive on the mic and on the touchline, his spurs team play like cowards bar a few exceptions like the city game (where he was away).

olliec said:

Maybe but what about Dier. I heard he’s getting a new contract as well.

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I doubt if you have heard it from anyone who knows. I'm not sure when his contract expires but he is probably someone they wouldn't be comfortable with leaving on a free but would also be prepared to listen to offers for.

Conte is like that really hot bird that you’ve pulled. She went out with one of your mates and they made it clear to you that she’s really high maintenance, but you couldn’t help yourself.

It started off well, but now she’s just had a melt down in the middle of McDonald’s because you promised her a night out. She wanted another top fancy restaurant, you couldn’t be arsed and took her for a Big Mac & fries.

Harrier said:

Sorry, but elite managers don’t go out of the FA cup with a whimper against a makeshift Sheffield side.

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Liverpool were taken to Pens, at home, against Derby County this season. It happens.

Coco-1101 said:

For me Levy is bad and that a known fact but conte is also shit. so double shit make us mega shit right no.

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As I keep saying I have never said he isn't part of the problem. I have in fact said he is.

I'm going to stop replying to the posters that seem to be selectively reading my posts

Trent Crimm said:

He’s got some neck. Part of the recent problem has been him being stupid getting sent off then we have to play Sanchez tanganaga

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If the rest of our back 3 had half the ability and passion of Cuti we wouldn't be in this situation. He is elite clearly and if we don't improve we will lose him and then watch him go on to win shit loads ala Modric

The lack of self-respect in here is absolutely baffling. A club you claim to love gets dragged through the mud by someone who has embodied everything he criticizes... and he gets f***ing celebrated for it?

It doesn't matter if you agree with him or how right he is saying all these things because:

1. He has been very much part of the problem.
2. He has disrespected something that we are supposed to love through good times and bad.

And what about everything is so true?

- How can you blame the players when you are coaching them to sit back against the worst team inte league?
- How can you blame the players on the pitch when you refuse to use the guys on the bench?
- How can you criticize the players for playing for themselves when you have separated yourself from the club in every conversation since you joined?
- How can you say it's the same no matter the manager and that history has repeated itself for 20 years when we've clearly improved under Jol, Redknapp, and Porch? (They managed to get the players to play as a team, wich is one of the important aspects of your job.)
- How can you criticize the mentality of the club when you've been brought in as one of the most powerful people in the club to improve that?

Some of these or all of these would have been legit to call out if he included himself in the criticism and wasn't responsible for many of them.

We can scream at Levy and the board all we want, and we should rightfully continue to do so, but patting someone on the back and celebrating him for spitting at our club? For things he is at least partly responsible? Some serious Stockholm syndrome vibes in here tonight.

The decision makers within the club may be the main reason we can't seem to bring in any silverware, but this fanbase seriously needs to take a look in the mirror as well.

How are the players or managers ever going to pull together if we despise the club to a point where we celebrate someone hating on it this level?

Do you want to build statues of Arsenal fans who say we are shit, just because you agree? No.

Trix said:

As I keep saying I have never said he isn't part of the problem. I have in fact said he is.

I'm going to stop replying to the posters that seem to be selectively reading my posts

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I am not disagreeing with you. I am in the same boat like you but maybe a bit longer than you.

Interesting calling players selfish. I’d say selfish is trying to get paid off early….

Trix said:

As I keep saying I have never said he isn't part of the problem. I have in fact said he is.

I'm going to stop replying to the posters that seem to be selectively reading my posts

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I don’t get what people seem to reduce to see or understand in it all, pretty clear to me.

hire ‘any’ manager, the board then choose players based on opportunity and expect said manager to make miracles on the pitch, rather than provide the players that can actually compete or close a gap.

Rinse/repeat.